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Old 02-13-2006, 01:16 PM  
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Ford Invents Hybrid that is *300% more efficient* than Toyota Prius
Ford is developing a new form of automotive propulsion, and the implications for the American Auto Industry are huge. The Hydraulic Hybrid could be the greatest innovation since the internal combustion engine itself, and Ford is on the inside track with its F-150 Hybrid. New Tech Spy Has learned details about the system that are simply amazing and could put Ford in a commanding position in the fiercely competitive full size pickup market.
---The Idea behind the current crop of Hybrid cars is well known; the cars main energy comes from gasoline which recharges batteries that move the car at low speeds. Hydraulic Hybrids work in the same manner, only instead of batteries, excess energy is stored in hydraulic cylinders.That in itself is not revolutionary, except for the fact that Nickel Metal Hydride batteries used today are not an efficient way to store energy, and hydraulic storage blows them away with 3X the efficiency. Even next generation Lithium Ion batteries do not come close to Hydraulic Energy Storage.
---The standard F-150 has a curb weight of about 4800 lbs., which is 65% greater than theToyota Prius, yet incredibly the Hydraulic F-150 with a continuously variable transmission matches the Prius with 60mpg city rating, that’s an amazing 400% increase over its gasoline version.
---The F-150 makes for a perfect host for Hydraulic Hybrid technology because of its height and body on frame construction, adding this system to smaller vehicles will be challenging, but with those kind of numbers small vehicles as we know them may become obsolete...The Hydraulic F-150 is currently scheduled for launch in August of 2008, can Ford work out all the bugs by then? The people are waiting for Ford to come through in the clutch.


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Old 02-13-2006, 01:50 PM   #16
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super compressed hydraulic cylinders? I want to see the video of the first wreck with one of these things
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Old 02-13-2006, 01:51 PM   #17
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i wonder how well it would work if they Incorporated all the various energy stuff into one car?

this hydraulic stuff(smaller)

using breaking to produce electricity

put solar panels in the roof to recharge batteries

some kind of electric tech for using wind while car is moving


think they could viably increase the MPG with existing tech right now?
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Old 02-13-2006, 01:52 PM   #18
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300%? Not likely. I notice the article doesn't cite a source.
I've heard of this tech before though, and it's still pretty promising.


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Old 02-13-2006, 02:00 PM   #19
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Toyota is kicking tail!!!! I have a 2006 Hybrid Highlander 4X4, 31 MPG City, 27 MPG Highway. I also have ES 330 Lexus not Hybrid. Bottom line is Toyota's and Lexus' value is second to none!

American auto industry needs to get on the ball and compete! Good to hear about what Ford has coming out of the pipeline! Hopefully GM, Chrysler, and all the rest need to step up and provide a better product. If they don't they are out.

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Old 02-13-2006, 02:02 PM   #20
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Right now, none.

These hydaulic power units won't fit in smaller, lighter cars yet.

And when computers were first invented they took up entire rooms. now I can carry one in my pocket if I choose. Once we have the technology, we can improve on it greatly pretty rapidly.

I for one can't wait. I am a huge 4X4 fan, but I can't afford the gas on one. however, if this article is true, and the engines still have the same power, then you can just pass the paper that has the dotted line right on over here.

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They're going out of buisness any way so who gives a crap. My truck=14mpg and damn proud of it.
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People like you are the reason gas companys are makin billions of us right now, it's why we are involved in the middle east at all. I'm not saying it's wrong to own a big truck or what not, but to not want to look for an alternative fuel source just because you're too much of a red neck to realize the good that this could do for the planet and for our nation, thats just reeruned in my opinion.
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Old 02-13-2006, 02:05 PM   #21
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Toyota is kicking tail!!!! I have a 2006 Hybrid Highlander 4X4, 31 MPG City, 27 MPG Highway. I also have ES 330 Lexus not Hybrid. Bottom line is Toyota's and Lexus' value is second to none!

American auto industry needs to get on the ball and compete! Good to hear about what Ford has coming out of the pipeline! Hopefully GM, Chrysler, and all the rest need to step up and provide a better product. If they don't they are out.

The American consumer gets the best products for the best price or they don't buy!
It gets better in town than on the open road?
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Old 02-13-2006, 02:07 PM   #22
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It gets better in town than on the open road?
Yeah, that's the way hybrids work, Mr. Bob Dole. The batteries are used at low speeds, when braking, etc. so they're used more in city or stop & go driving.

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Old 02-13-2006, 02:09 PM   #23
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It gets better in town than on the open road?

Yeah. The way the hybrids work, is the battery charges when you push the brakes. So theoretically when you stop at lights while in town, you charge the battery and then you run on the electricity built up in the batteries, while on the freeway you dont use your brakes so your battery runs dry, and you switch to gas.

This theory holds true unless you live in los angeles where driving on the freeways is far more stop and go then driving on the streets.

Edit: Spelling is not my friend.
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Old 02-13-2006, 02:12 PM   #24
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New 07 Tahoe gets 22 mpg... they hybrid version gets 30 mpg

New 07 Saturn Greenline.... 30+ mpg

E85 Flex Fuel is starting to really catch on......


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Old 02-13-2006, 02:15 PM   #25
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For the first time in a while...

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I think we are seeing the car guys tell the oil guys to fu@k off, because the consumer, for the first time ever in concerned about MPG
People were concerned about mpg back in the 70's too.
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Right now, none.

These hydaulic power units won't fit in smaller, lighter cars yet.
What is this going to do to the SUV=death dealing machine crowd? Are they going to cheer the alternative energy concept or boo the fact that these machines will pulverize their Yugos?
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Old 02-13-2006, 02:27 PM   #29
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People like you are the reason gas companys are makin billions of us right now, it's why we are involved in the middle east at all. I'm not saying it's wrong to own a big truck or what not, but to not want to look for an alternative fuel source just because you're too much of a red neck to realize the good that this could do for the planet and for our nation, thats just reeruned in my opinion.
You are just as much of a problem if you don't walk or bike everywhere and if you don't grow your own food. Get off your soapbox, hypocrite.
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