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Old 02-02-2012, 07:18 PM  
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:45 PM   #1741
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After replying, I was like, wait... didn't I click on the MU thread? Did I end up in the wrong place?

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Just don't ban me for pointing it out.

Or do, I need to get to bed anyway.
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:46 PM   #1742
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Well, they were 13-12 (4-7) in 2008 when KU lost in Stillwater. They had just won @A&M though, who ended up as a 9 seed.

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They were also #57 in KenPom, though. Had a lot of quality players in Anderson, Eaton and Muonelo. This year...they're 100. They've just got Keiton Page and a raw (though talented) freshman in Nash.

I'm not saying they can't beat KU (because any B12 road game is tough), but the quality it wasn't it was in either of those years.
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:47 PM   #1743
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I wish KU could have closed the deal on Nash. We've been super close on so many recruits lately only to somehow lose out in the end. NOT COOL.
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:48 PM   #1744
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I wish KU could have closed the deal on Nash. We've been super close on so many recruits lately only to somehow lose out in the end. NOT COOL.
They probably sold him on being able to have control of the offense while taking a lot of shots at OSU. Which he certainly has done...he just hasn't done it that well. He's no Durant.
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:50 PM   #1745
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They probably sold him on being able to have control of the offense while taking a lot of shots at OSU. Which he certainly has done...he just hasn't done it that well.
Yeah, he came out and said as much. Still hurts, though. Hopefully B-Mac can make us forget all about Nash next year.
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:53 PM   #1746
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They were also #57 in KenPom, though. Had a lot of quality players in Anderson, Eaton and Muonelo. This year...they're 100. They've just got Keiton Page and a raw (though talented) freshman in Nash.

I'm not saying they can't beat KU (because any B12 road game is tough), but the quality it wasn't it was in either of those years.
Oh yeah, Eaton... I was going to ask about kenpom, since I assume you pay for the extras, but after looking at their schedule I figured it was about the same, outside of winning @A&M. Was that end of year, or before the KU game? Before A&M?
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Yeah, he came out and said as much. Still hurts, though. Hopefully B-Mac can make us forget all about Nash next year.
He should have looked at what KU did for X a few years ago. X played great defense and played within the offense on the way to being a lottery pick.
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Oh yeah, Eaton... I was going to ask about kenpom, since I assume you pay for the extras, but after looking at their schedule I figured it was about the same, outside of winning @A&M. Was that end of year, or before the KU game? Before A&M?
They're playing better lately (with the victory at home over ISU and near victory at home over Baylor), but this is still the kind of down year that we haven't seen from OSU in a long time. KU should win that game.
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Perry Jones is a projected NBA lottery pick who was named Big 12 preseason player of the year, a dazzling athlete with a 7-foot-2 wingspan and a 30-plus-inch vertical leap. Steve Moore is the everyman reserve who averages 3.1 points and inspires the student-led chorus of “Steeeeve!” every time he dashes off the bench.

Advantage: Missouri.

While Jones performed his latest big-game vanishing act, Moore gave the home team — and crowd — a major lift in the fourth-ranked Tigers’ 72-57 victory over sixth-ranked Baylor yesterday at Mizzou Arena.

Moore’s rumbling two-handed slam early in the second half was just one energy play in a day filled with them.

“He was outstanding tonight,” MU Coach Frank Haith said. “He was a live wire. He got his hands on a lot of balls, he deflected balls, he kept the rebounds alive tipping it, took a charge … ”

Moore, who finished with three points and two rebounds, stood in contrast to his more heralded foil. The sophomore Jones scored four points on 2-of-12 shooting — three days after he had five points and four rebounds in the Bears’ 68-54 loss to Kansas. Jones, who averages 14.3 points, finished with eight points in MU’s victory at Baylor.

Bears Coach Scott Drew said he does not know why Jones struggles against Missouri. But the Tigers’ players hinted at one explanation when asked to discuss the play of Moore.

“Steve’s going to bring it with his enthusiasm and just his hard work ethic,” Phil Pressey said.

While Moore is a man of the people — he joins the student section after big wins — the 6-foot-9 center has an aggressive edge on the court. On the possession before his dunk put Missouri ahead 43-37, Moore ripped a rebound out of the clutches of Baylor forward Quincy Miller.

Jones is often criticized for being too passive, as nice a person on the floor as he off. Yesterday, when he nudged over Missouri’s Kim English on the low block — English was whistled for the foul — he immediately extended a hand to help his fallen defender. And moments later, when a teammate rifled an uncatchable pass over his outstretched arms, he pointed to his chest to bear the blame.

Jones was benched the final three minutes after a blown layup and a turnover.

“He’s got such great potential for the future because everyone knows when he’s 24 or 26, the sky is the limit for him,” Drew said. “Problem is, he’s judged on that potential sometime, and that’s hard on everybody.”

TROUBLE ON THE GLASS: MU and Baylor reversed the first-half rebounding script from the earlier meeting in Waco.

In January, the Tigers outrebounded Baylor 21-11 in the first half. Yesterday, the visitors at one point held a 15-3 edge.

Haith refused to use the Bears’ height advantage as an excuse.

“So much is made about length, and they have length and were playing above us,” he said, “but if we do a good job of pushing those guys back and keeping balls alive, then our little guys can come scoop them up. Our effort wasn’t where it needed to be.”

The message came through at halftime. MU outrebounded Baylor 19-17 in the second half.

MOVING ON UP: Marcus Denmon surpassed Jon Sundvold for 10th on Missouri’s career scoring list.

With 16 points, the senior guard now has 1,605 points — eight more than Sundvold scored from 1979-83.

Denmon and Sundvold, a television commentator for the game, spoke afterward.

“I never really look at that stuff,” Sundvold said of the school’s all-time scoring chart. “It’s not a big deal because it happens. He’s had a pretty solid career. I didn’t expect him not to pass that. … Marcus is a great kid. I’m partial because I’m a Kansas City guy.”
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KenPom gives KU an 85% chance of winning the OSU game. I imagine the 2008 team had a % in the 90s, though, before that game.
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Missouri’s supposed to struggle against teams with size. Baylor is supposed to dominate smaller teams.

None of that happened on Saturday, as Missouri knocked down 14 3-pointers en route to a 72-57 win.

Baylor stubbornly stayed in its zone defense throughout the game, even when it was clear it wasn’t doing much to stop Missouri’s shooters. The Tigers consistently found open gaps in the corners, and exploited the lack of perimeter defense Baylor was showing. Marcus Denmon, Mike Dixon and Phil Pressey combined to shoot 12-for-22 from 3-point range, scoring 51 points between them.

Baylor’s size was a major factor early on, but the Bears simply couldn’t guard Missouri’s guards. How Missouri would match up with Baylor’s size populated much of the pregame discussion, but it was the other way around – Baylor couldn’t match up with Missouri’s four-guard lineup. Perry Jones was invisible for most of the game, while Baylor was unable to knock down jumpers at key points in the game. Gary Franklin, Pierre Jackson and Brady Heslip combined to shoot 2-for-13 from behind the arc for Baylor.

While Baylor possesses as much talent as anyone in the country, it’s troubling that Scott Drew’s troops can’t break through against the top teams in the Big 12. The Bears are now 0-4 against Missouri and Kansas. While that would not be a problem for most teams, it’s worth mentioning when you’re a Final Four hopeful. Baylor has all of the ingredients to make a deep run in March – except a killer instinct. Jones is the Bears’ best player, but he has never been a killer and he disappears in the biggest games. Freshman Quincy Miller was good tonight, but he can’t be the only player scoring. Does Baylor have enough mental toughness and intestinal fortitude to beat teams that punch back after taking the Bears’ initial punch?

Missouri is at the opposite end of the spectrum. The Tigers are simply fearless. Going against the bigs of Baylor wasn’t an issue – they gave up 15 offensive rebounds and were outrebounded by 13. It didn’t matter. Missouri makes teams adjust to them, not the other way around. Sure, Kim English is too small to really compete with Jones and Quincy Acy and other big guys inside, but they can’t guard him at the other end. Denmon was giving up plenty of height to Miller, but he’s also far too quick for the Baylor freshman. For every potential matchup problem, they respond with “well, what about when we’re on offense?” And fortunately for the Tigers, they’re the most efficient offensive team in the country.

Saturday’s game was a perfect contrast. There was one team that maximized its talent and didn’t back down, and another one that seemed to shrink on the biggest stages despite its size.
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Since we're in the MU thread, KenPom gives KU a 73% chance of winning the MU game (and predicts a 7PT win). That's pretty much as low a percentage as you'll see at AFH.
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Bowers recognized with Mizzou '39 recipients at Missouri men's basketball game

COLUMBIA — When Laurence Bowers took to center court during the Missouri men’s basketball game against Baylor, he wasn’t being recognized as a player but as a recipient of the prestigious Mizzou '39 award.

During a timeout in the first half of the game, Bowers stepped away from Missouri’s huddle and walked slowly over to the line of students being recognized as recipients of the award. He pumped his fists in the air then pointed with two fingers toward his family in the stands.

The Alumni Association Student Board presents the award to seniors who have displayed outstanding service to the community and the university, academic achievement and leadership.

Tami Chievous, an assistant director of academic services for intercollegiate athletics, nominated Bowers, who is recovering from a season-ending ACL injury, because of the support he has provided for the basketball team, as well as his academic achievement and the work he has done in the community. When Bowers found out he won the award, she was the first person he contacted.

“I told Miss Tami first, then I told my girlfriend, then I told my family,” Bowers said.

Bowers has given back to the community in a variety of ways, including reading to children in Columbia schools, helping with Special Olympics, visiting the Children’s Hospital and assisting with basketball camps in the area.

Missouri junior forward Andy Rosburg sits next to Bowers during games and rooms with him during road trips. He said Bowers has made his experience with the team an enjoyable one.

“On the basketball court, he’s a leader. He’s a vocal guy. But then, also, he’s very dedicated to the community. He goes out and does a lot of community work, extracurricular things along with getting good grades in school and getting into grad school now. He’s worked very hard in the community,” Rosburg said.

Bowers will graduate in May with his bachelor’s degree in sociology. He’s also dual enrolled in graduate-level classes this semester, and he plans to pursue his master’s degree in psychology or health education.

“Anything dealing with people, I think I’d do well,” Bowers said about his future career path.

After Missouri defeated Baylor 72-57, Bowers took time to reach up into the stands to high-five fans before heading to the locker room with the team. Afterward, he came out and greeted the children waiting for autographs and made sure to give each one his undivided attention.

Bowers’ outgoing personality is one of his aunt’s favorite things about him. Mary Ann Bowers is a seventh-grade teacher, and when Laurence Bowers was growing up, she helped him study and worked hard to instill in him a strong work ethic.

“I got on his nerves a whole lot, but you see what it ended up being,” Mary Ann Bowers said. “Me being an educator, it’s just in me to make sure that he would rise to the occasion. I always wanted him to be on top and do his best.”

His mother, Nancy Rita Bowers, said Laurence Bowers has been a high achiever throughout his life.

“I am extremely, extremely proud of him,” she said of him receiving the award.

Bowers plans on finishing his master’s degree within the next year as he plays his final year with the Missouri basketball team. After finishing his time with the Tigers, he wants to play in the NBA.

“I want to pursue professional basketball,” Laurence Bowers said. “But after that, it’s wherever God takes me.”
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