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Old 12-05-2012, 10:16 PM  
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Joe Thomas Has No Love for Peyton Hillis
Joe Thomas unloads on Peyton Hillis for putting contract above team

Running back Peyton Hillis returns to Cleveland this weekend, a year after the Madden curse impacted him in an unprecedented way.

Hillis wanted a new contract, and his desire to cash in got in the way of his performance.

On Wednesday, Browns left tackle Joe Thomas confirmed what had been long suspected regarding a tumultuous season that included rumors and reports of Hillis using illness and injury as an excuse to demonstrate his displeasure with not getting paid.

“It was a terrible distraction,” Thomas said, via the Associated Press. “He crippled our offense. We were struggling to find anybody who could carry the ball after all the injuries we had. To have Peyton going through a contract dispute and basically refusing to play, it was a big distraction. But more than anything, he was our starting running back that was a good player who was going to help us be a successful offense.

“When he’s not there and you don’t have anybody to turn to, it makes it hard to win. And that’s the distraction, it’s not being successful.”

Hillis became the unexpected workhorse of the Cleveland running game in 2010, after second-round rookie Montarrio Hardesty was injured. Hillis racked up more than 1,100 yards, and he won a popular-vote tournament to become the cover athlete for Madden 12.

“He was everything people knew about him — hard-working, blue-collar, tough, would do anything for anybody on the team,” Thomas said. “All he cared about was winning, and then all of a sudden the next year, all he cared about was trying to get his new contract.”

Thomas specifically pointed to Hillis leaving the team to get married during the season, at a time when he needed treatment for injuries.

“It was kind of one weird thing after another more than anything,” Thomas said. “We have guys getting married during the season and it’s not a big deal. When you’re ‘injured’ [yes, Thomas used air quotes . . . take that, Kuselias] and you should be getting treatment, to go do your own thing repeatedly was just disrespectful more than anything to his teammates.”

Thomas said that players tried to get through to him, to no avail.

“You see a lot of guys in contract disputes, like Matt Forte,” Thomas said. “His solution was, ‘I’m going to go out and prove they have to have me and they can’t play without me.’ The frustrating thing to a lot of teammates was you would try to talk to him and you try to tell him, ‘That’s not the right way to do it if you want to get your big contract.’ He just wouldn’t listen to anybody.

“People who thought they were very close friends with him, he wouldn’t listen to anybody. He thought he knew the right way to do it and it ended up not being the right way and hurting everybody. Not just himself. It was a tough situation.”

Hillis ultimately signed a one-year deal with the Chiefs. Thanks to the comments from Thomas, who admirably went on the record and didn’t hide behind anonymity, it’s safe to say that Hillis will receive a less-than-warm welcome when he re-enters the Factory of Sadness on Sunday.

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Old 12-05-2012, 11:08 PM   #16
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Joe Thomas needs an Eric Winston injection
Well done. Whatever happened to the old O-Line ethic of keeping a low profile? Just do your job and let your efforts speak for you? I know I'm getting old.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:19 PM   #17
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Good I hope the Browns take this as an opportunity to give us another loss and stick Hillis in the dirt.
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I like that Thomas isn't afraid to throw Hillis under the bus when all Hillis did was act like a little bitch all year.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:32 PM   #19
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I like that Thomas isn't afraid to throw Hillis under the bus when all Hillis did was act like a little bitch all year.
I think that Thomas is a bitch for these comments.

Look, this is an extremely small fraternity of men. 1,698 on the active roster of 32 teams to be exact.

Calling someone out, especially someone who isn't on your team any longer, is just plain dumb.
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I think that Thomas is a bitch for these comments.

Look, this is an extremely small fraternity of men. 1,698 on the active roster of 32 teams to be exact.

Calling someone out, especially someone who isn't on your team any longer, is just plain dumb.
Hillis basically betrayed the Browns, and didn't care about his team. What's so wrong about Thomas speaking his mind this week?
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Hillis basically betrayed the Browns, and didn't care about his team. What's so wrong about Thomas speaking his mind this week?



Right. He "betrayed" them. Gave away national security secrets. Joined the CIA.
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You could tell He wasn't going to play as long as Cassel was QB after that pass that was thrown behind him and his "new" injury.

The guy is a tool. I hope he is gone after this season.
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That angered me too. Then they gave Baldwin a cheap TD over letting JC get it when he did all the work getting them in the position to score. JC deserved the opportunity to score a TD.
That was a great call. The inside slant, with the bigger WR and Baldwin got the position on the defender. Call that all day long! We should have been using Baldwin all year long already, JFC!

The real problem is, when someone really knows how to game plan and call and all the players want to play, there aren't enough balls to go around on this offense and the fantasy guys are gonna cry about it when their guy doesn't score a TD.
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Right. He "betrayed" them. Gave away national security secrets. Joined the CIA.
He went from a runaway train in 2010, into the epitome of a front running, check casher in cleveland.

C'mon man, he's been a crap, focused on self after the one season hype, what could the hype do to secure him more instant money, not how could he propel and instill himself into the team, a team begging for a hope, a leader... the case against him was nationwide.

KC takes a shot, general money was hoping on a change of scenery and familiar system bringing him back to square, heres the real shot to restablish himself... and he chokes out early, when he's sure others are quitting on the QB.

I was hoping for the Great White Bus, but have so far gotten the Bust... he has some hard decisions to make, for sure.
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He went from a runaway train in 2010, into the epitome of a front running, check casher in cleveland.
Who cares?

He hardly "betrayed" the Browns.

Do you know who "betrayed" the Browns? Mike Holmgren.

Instead of drafting RGIII, he traded away those rights.

That's betrayal.
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Seems like a cheap shot at someone who was a teammate. Drew Bree's got his and didn't care that along with everything else that was going on doing so would hurt the team. Business is business. I don't hate the guy, he hasn't produced but neither have a lot of other Chiefs.

Pay Bowe at least he performed, it's easy to see on Sunday who the guys who get it are. Johnson,Charles, Berry,Albert those guys have gave maximum effort. That doesn't mean they haven't made mistakes but the effort is there.

I'll take this time to again slam Kendrick Lewis for not being able to tackle anyone(never has been a good tackler) and congrats to Hartman for displaying what a Free Saftey should be able to do. I don't want the saftey leading the team but that solo tackle on Newton from all the way on the other side of the field was a big league play.
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“It was a terrible distraction,” Thomas said, via the Associated Press. “He crippled our offense.
Not to defend Hillis, but their offense has been crippled for years.
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Who cares?

He hardly "betrayed" the Browns.

Do you know who "betrayed" the Browns? Mike Holmgren.

Instead of drafting RGIII, he traded away those rights.

That's betrayal.
Maybe he didnt betray them per se, he just quit trying.

He's been a textbook profile of quitter in KC so far, save last week.

Time to get his shine on or get lost.
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Maybe he didnt betray them per se, he just quit trying.

He's been a textbook profile of quitter in KC so far, save last week.

Time to get his shine on or get lost.
I just think he had one amazing year in Cleveland, which turns out, was an aberration.

The reality of Hillis is that he is just a sixth round running back from Arkansas that outside of 2010, is playing to his draft slot.
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