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Old 03-15-2013, 07:48 AM  
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Mike and Mike Talking about Geno going #1 overall

It was just a matter of time. Obviously the Chiefs don't need him but they are helping create a market for a trade.

Apparently Jaws loves the kid.
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:51 PM   #211
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Which NFL people? I'm not talking about media types like Peter King and so forth. Which NFL GM's and head coaches (besides those in NE that were hyping him for a draft choice) thought he was worth a $63 million dollar contract? And whoever they may have been, I hope they've since been fired.

FWIW, I just went back nine pages on Google and the only people that praised this trade were, you guessed it, Boston and New England media.
The Vikings were interested.

And it's not so much about the contract.....it was about the trade.
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:52 PM   #212
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The Vikings were interested.

And it's not so much about the contract.....it was about the trade.
Wasn't Denver a player in the Cassel, and I use this term lightly, sweepstakes? McDanniels ticked Cutler off so bad he was traded to Chicago.
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:52 PM   #213
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The Vikings were interested.

And it's not so much about the contract.....it was about the trade.
I kind of remember Zygi Wolf stating some interest but they never followed up.

BTW, he's a moron.

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Old 03-15-2013, 01:54 PM   #214
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Which NFL people? I'm not talking about media types like Peter King and so forth. Which NFL GM's and head coaches (besides those in NE that were hyping him for a draft choice) thought he was worth a $63 million dollar contract? And whoever they may have been, I hope they've since been fired.

FWIW, I just went back nine pages on Google and the only people that praised this trade were, you guessed it, Boston and New England media.
I didn't say a word about the contract.

All I said was that the NFL saw upside in Cassel...it's true. TB, Minny, Denver and KC all wanted him.
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:54 PM   #215
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The NFL thought Cassel had an upside too, and sold that shit


The people that are stoked and say that 17 td and 5 int or 13 td and 5 int is somehow something that we should be jumping for joy over is amazing...

How is 175 yards per game and 1 td going to take this team anywhere?

how is that different from cassel, in all seriousness?
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:55 PM   #216
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TB, Minny, Denver and KC all wanted him.
Bullshit.

McDaniels and Pioli were the only true suitors of Cassel and can you guess why?
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:56 PM   #217
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CP > draft experts & GMs that were bitching about Geno for the last 3 months
This X Eleventy to the Billionth Power. And why I trust the CP process over ANY slapdick GM or media hack. Doubters; go **** yourselves none too gently.
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:58 PM   #218
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ACCORDING TO DANE MCCLOUD there were only two people in the NFL that thought Cassel had upside.



I can post lots and lots of reports than Minnesota and Tampa wanted Cassel...but I don't have to because anyone with a brain can use google.
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:59 PM   #219
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ACCORDING TO DANE MCCLOUD there were only two people in the NFL that thought Cassel had upside.



I can post lots and lots of reports than Minnesota and Tampa wanted Cassel...but I don't have to because anyone with a brain can use google.
Then post ONE of each.
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Old 03-15-2013, 02:01 PM   #220
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Yep. He must really suck, having played every game of his pro career behind that Brees guy. I mean, if you can't unseat a Super Bowl winning future Hall of Famer who never missed a start, you must really suck, right?

Terrible.

Oh shut the **** up.

He's Graham Harrell right now. Nobody ****ing knows what he is. He's a ****ing mystery box. That's what we were bidding on. A goddamn mystery box.

If we win the lottery, he's another Drew Brees. If we're moderately lucky, he'll be Matt Flynn. But more than likely, Chase Daniel type QBs wind up being career backups, where they hope and pray that they never get exposed as the Curtis Painter/Tyler Palko types that they really are.

I'm hoping and praying we're lucky this time, because with Alex's injury history, Daniel is probably going to see some playing time this year.
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Old 03-15-2013, 02:04 PM   #221
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Then post ONE of each.
No.

You have PROVEN over the last month or so that you are no longer capable of having regular discussions like we used to.

I could post a hundred reports and all you would say is "that reporter is junk" or "I know bob Sacamano and he said this never happened"

What's the point?

You have your thoughts cemented and it doesn't matter what anyone else presents as evidence.

I'm not gonna waste my time.
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CP > draft experts & GMs that were bitching about Geno for the last 3 months
Crowdsourcing is the new Moneyball.
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No.

You have PROVEN over the last month or so that you are no longer capable of having regular discussions like we used to.

I could post a hundred reports and all you would say is "that reporter is junk" or "I know bob Sacamano and he said this never happened"

What's the point?

You have your thoughts cemented and it doesn't matter what anyone else presents as evidence.

I'm not gonna waste my time.
Nice.

So, you throw a bunch of shit out there, and guys like me, Keg and Mr. Awesome refute it with links.

Then you throw even MORE shit out there, say you can back it up, but can't.



Just stop.
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I'm not anti-QB at 1.1 in any way, shape or form. There are all kinds of logical, well-thought out reasons why it would make sense to do it. I would do it, had I the power. But it isn't going to happen. Because it isn't a legitimate possibility. Not for this franchise. Allowing any glimmer of hope into your mind is just opening the door for crushing disappointment in a month.
There it is. For a team like the Jets or Eagles or Redskins if they were in our position, QB at #1 would absolutely have to still be considered.

But the Kansas City Chiefs don't work that way. It's not in their DNA for some reason. Don't know if that's a Hunt thing or that they just unluckily happen to hire guys all the time who don't believe in investing at the QB position.
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CP > draft experts & GMs that were bitching about Geno for the last 3 months
CP > draft experts & GMs that now agree with CP, that geno is top 5+
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