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Old 01-31-2012, 02:52 PM  
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:37 PM   #5596
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Well the sec game is basically the national championship game
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:20 PM   #5597
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ACC presidents say that rumors they are looking to leave the conference are false:
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“We, the undersigned presidents of the Atlantic Coast Conference, wish to express our commitment to preserve and protect the future of our outstanding league. We want to be clear that the speculation about ACC schools in negotiations or considering alternatives to the ACC are totally false. The presidents of the ACC are united in our commitment to a strong and enduring conference. The ACC has long been a leader in intercollegiate athletics, both academically and athletically, and the constitution of our existing and future member schools will maintain the ACC’s position as one of the nation’s premier conferences.”

Fr. William Leahy, Boston College
Mr. James Barker, Clemson University
Dr. Richard Brodhead, Duke University
Dr. Eric Barron, Florida State University
Dr. G.P. “Bud” Peterson, Georgia Institute of Technology
Dr. James Ramsey, University of Louisville
Dr. Donna Shalala, University of Miami
Dr. Holden Thorp, University of North Carolina
Dr. Randy Woodson, North Carolina State University
Fr. John Jenkins, University of Notre Dame
Dr. Mark Nordenberg, University of Pittsburgh
Dr. Nancy Cantor, Syracuse University
Dr. Teresa Sullivan, University of Virginia
Dr. Charles Steger, Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University
Dr. Nathan Hatch, Wake Forest University
http://www.theacc.com/genrel/120612aab.html

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Old 12-06-2012, 03:23 PM   #5598
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ACC presidents say that rumors they are looking to leave the conference are false:

http://www.theacc.com/genrel/120612aab.html

Statement from today (December 6, 2012).
That settles is. Rumor has it they're set to announce a 36 hour granting of rights within the week.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:25 PM   #5599
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ACC presidents say that rumors they are looking to leave the conference are false:

[urc.com/genrel/120612aab.html[/url]

Statement from today (December 6, 2012).
means nothing


don't know what is going to happen but a collective 'vote of confidence' doesn't mean shit.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:49 PM   #5600
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ACC presidents say that rumors they are looking to leave the conference are false:
“We, the undersigned presidents of the Atlantic Coast Conference, wish to express our commitment to preserve and protect the future of our outstanding league. We want to be clear that the speculation about ACC schools in negotiations or considering alternatives to the ACC are totally false. The presidents of the ACC are united in our commitment to a strong and enduring conference. The ACC has long been a leader in intercollegiate athletics, both academically and athletically, and the constitution of our existing and future member schools will maintain the ACC’s position as one of the nation’s premier conferences.”

Fr. William Leahy, Boston College
Mr. James Barker, Clemson University
Dr. Richard Brodhead, Duke University
Dr. Eric Barron, Florida State University
Dr. G.P. “Bud” Peterson, Georgia Institute of Technology
Dr. James Ramsey, University of Louisville
Dr. Donna Shalala, University of Miami
Dr. Holden Thorp, University of North Carolina
Dr. Randy Woodson, North Carolina State University
Fr. John Jenkins, University of Notre Dame
Dr. Mark Nordenberg, University of Pittsburgh
Dr. Nancy Cantor, Syracuse University
Dr. Teresa Sullivan, University of Virginia
Dr. Charles Steger, Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University
Dr. Nathan Hatch, Wake Forest University
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:19 PM   #5601
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Anyone want a bold prediction?

The next major move will be...































Virginia Tech to the SEC.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:11 PM   #5602
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Are you just guessing Saul, or is there a particular reason you think VTech is going to the SEC?
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:18 PM   #5603
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Are you just guessing Saul, or is there a particular reason you think VTech is going to the SEC?
Just guessing.

I have no inside knowledge, but I am reading the tea leaves a bit. The ACC is going to be broken. I see no way around it. There are too many powerful entities working towards it (B1G, SEC, Big 12) for it not to happen, especially considering that it's already been weakened.

There are a million different scenarios, but nearly every one of them involves VPI to the SEC. Might as well start the dominos (actually, Jenga is the better analogy) with the inevitable move first. That severely weakens the conference's football viability.

What school is already deeply concerned with said football viability? FSU. Off they go to the Big 12, likely paired with Clemson (but don't rule out Louisville). In fact, I'd say Louisville goes with FSU first, and Clemson waits to see what the Carolina schools do.

At this point, UNC realizes that the jig is up and starts cutting deals. I don't know why, but I feel like they choose the SEC.

Virginia and Georgia Tech go to the B1G (ever notice how the B1G logo kind of looks like B16?)

In the biggest surprise of all of these moves, NC State joins Clemson in the Big 12. The Big 12 waits a while at 14 in hopes of landing Notre Dame and Duke. Failing that, they add Cincinnati and one of Syracuse, UCONN, Miami,Pitt, Duke etc.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:07 PM   #5604
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Well, this will probably kill expansion for the B12, and that's not necessarily a bad thing:

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The BCS recently signed a 12-year contract with ESPN. The deal averages to $470 million annually, sources said. Of that amount, about $125 million is expected to go toward expenses, including an academic reward component, game participation, team expenses, allotment to Football Championship Subdivision conferences and other items.

It leaves an average of $345 million annually, which the commissioners have decided to split in two ways: 75 percent ($258.75 million) divided equally between the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and ACC, and the remaining 25 percent ($86.25 million) divided among the Big East, MWC, MAC, C-USA and Sun Belt.

That alone gives the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and ACC an average of $51.75 million annually. The SEC, Big 12, Pac-12 and Big Ten also will each receive an additional $40 million annually for their contract bowl deals with ESPN: Allstate Sugar (SEC, Big 12) and Rose Bowl Game presented by Vizio (Pac-12, Big 12).

The ACC also will earn at least an additional $27.5 million annually for its ESPN contract bowl deal with the Orange. The ACC's opponent will either be Notre Dame or a team from the SEC and Big Ten. If the SEC or Big Ten places a team in the Orange Bowl, that league would earn another $27.5 million, increasing the SEC or Big Ten's playoff revenue share to $118 million.

Notre Dame's exact compensation for playing in the Orange Bowl during the ESPN deal is not known, but sources told ESPN it would be "substantially less" than the $27.5 million payout to an ACC, SEC or Big Ten team.

http://espn.go.com/college-foo...mat-sources-say
Basically, you get more money per school if you are a smaller conference. 51.7 million works out to roughly 5.18 million per school at 10 teams. If we went to 12 it would be 3.7 per team. You can see how that figure goes down with each additional team. That's not including the Sugar payout too, which is roughly 4 million per team. These aren't exact figures, but you can see why expansion may NOT be in the best interest of the B12 unless those teams really add substantial value.
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Todd McShay has 15 SEC players drafted in the first round of his mock. He clearly hasn't seen the Sagarin rankings.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:41 PM   #5606
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Well, this will probably kill expansion for the B12, and that's not necessarily a bad thing:



Basically, you get more money per school if you are a smaller conference. 51.7 million works out to roughly 5.18 million per school at 10 teams. If we went to 12 it would be 3.7 per team. You can see how that figure goes down with each additional team. That's not including the Sugar payout too, which is roughly 4 million per team. These aren't exact figures, but you can see why expansion may NOT be in the best interest of the B12 unless those teams really add substantial value.

Not necessarily. The SEC has more teams to divide the payout, but they are in two BCS bowls which equals more $$. The Big 12 has less teams but will get less $$ because only K-State is in a BCS bowl.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:48 PM   #5607
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Not necessarily. The SEC has more teams to divide the payout, but they are in two BCS bowls which equals more $$. The Big 12 has less teams but will get less $$ because only K-State is in a BCS bowl.
That doesn't really have anything to do with his comment, though.

The reality is that the Big 12 is going to be a lesser conference until they get to at least 12 teams and add a conference championship game.

The GOR adds stability, but there's always the chance that Texas and/or Oklahoma puts together a deal with another conference to bolt as soon as the GOR is up.

The Big 12 is opting for the quick buck via cutting the pie into fewer pieces while the power conferences are making "50 year decisions".
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