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Old 04-27-2013, 03:34 PM  
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Yep, Alex Smith is here to stay.

Hard to swallow.


What a horrible draft. Glad I didn't stick around for the whole thing. I would have wasted valuable time. Reid is a complete moron. Never go all in on a guy like Alex Smith. Your offseason is a complete joke.

That's all
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:24 PM   #166
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your reeruned logic is this. You are judging moves, that havent proven to be right or wrong. They havent played a single down, for you to be judging ANYTHING. So, until that happens, you really are just an annoying crying baby in walmart....
Your logic is balls deep on Alex Smith... No one cares.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:26 PM   #167
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Your logic is balls deep on Alex Smith... No one cares.
only the name. You just hate me period because of the name. I just totally owned you with simple logic, and thats your 4 year old response.

I owned you. You are now officially my bitch.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:26 PM   #168
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Would that be so bad?

I mean, if you aren't going to the playoffs, I would rather suck and get the top draft position and have a chance to improve anyway.
I call trolling considering the recent state of the franchise.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:27 PM   #169
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only the name. You just hate me period because of the name. I just totally owned you with simple logic, and thats your 4 year old response.

I owned you. You are now officially my bitch.
No. I hate you period because your own ****ing teams board banned you for being a moron and now you are hear spreading your ignorance of the great disciple Alex Smith.

No one like you. Which is why you are in the depths of red.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:30 PM   #170
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No. I hate you period because your own ****ing teams board banned you for being a moron and now you are hear spreading your ignorance of the great disciple Alex Smith.
my ignorance? I didnt even mention Alex Smith, i just mentioned the stupidness of you judging moves being made off the field, like you have some insight to how they might play out on the field. We all know what alex smith is. Hes a game manager, and his biggest upside is that hes not going to turn the ball over. Like I said. You hate the name. Thats all. My opinions have been more about the overrall moves of the Chiefs. Yours, is i see Alex Smith Fan, and immediately anything he says, is stupid moronic, and deserves degrading. Which is fine. I just consider the source. A user name, on a web site who offers nothing other than petulant whining....
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:45 PM   #171
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URBAN MEYER on Alex Smith:
In a question and answer session with The Sacramento Bee, Meyer, now a college football analyst at ESPN, revisited his 2005 comments and spoke about Smith's resurgence.

Why do things seem to be different this year with Smith?

"I follow the NFL a lot with Alex, Tim [Tebow] and other players. It's amazing to me in the NFL that if you're on a really bad team — bad offense, bad defense, bad kicking game — then it's the quarterback's fault.

"Alex was like my son. I was real close to Alex. I watched coordinator after coordinator come out of there. The defense was ranked near the bottom every year. It's a really bad team. And all of a sudden, it's, 'Well, Alex can't play.' And I'm thinking, 'What are you talking about? Alex certainly can play.' It's the same thing with Tim.

"So quarterbacks, they get far too much credit and far too much blame. The best thing about Alex right now — he's on a really good team with a really good coaching staff, and he's a member of a team. I give so much credit to that. I don't know the whole situation, but they're playing really good football."

Did he ever express frustration to you after leaving Utah?

"Oh, I spoke with him and with his mom and dad — we're really close. And, yeah, he was frustrated. You know, he's a perfectionist. He's a guy that grasps things so fast. He wants to learn and he's a relentless worker. So he was very frustrated. He was used to winning. He did it in high school. He had a great high school program.

"Then he goes to college and won a lot of games. The biggest frustration was losing. He really liked Norv Turner. When Norv Turner was there it was like a second life for him. And then Norv left to be a head coach and it just devastated him [Smith]. But he always stayed positive. He always wanted the best for San Francisco."

Did he or his family talk to you about the decision to remain in San Francisco after the 2010 season?

"A little bit. He had really liked Mike Singletary. He was a loyal person. That's the way he was raised. He really wanted to see it through. The San Francisco 49ers gave him a lot by making him the first pick."

You said he grasps things so fast. Doesn't that run counter to what you said about him in 2005 about him being "nonfunctional"?

"Mentally, he's on a different plane. He graduated from college in two years. I've always said he has like a photographic memory when we game-planned with him. But he went through so many different coordinators in San Francisco that he would try to — I don't want to say overanalyze it — but it was like … he made the comment to me going into his sophomore year that, 'I fully grasp everything in the system.'

"My comment, when they first drafted him in San Francisco, is that he wants to know every little thing about quarterback. He's a perfectionist. He wants to know why, what everyone's doing on the field. And if everything kept changing on him, it would be very slow. That's probably what's happening now without knowing the whole story. From what I understand, he's very comfortable with the system."

Knowing what you know about Jim Harbaugh, do you think he and Smith are a good pairing?

"One thing about Alex — he's a tough guy. We ran him a lot. We would always start the game, when I was coaching Alex, he would want to run off-tackle power with him carrying the ball. And he would just drop his pads and get in there. How many quarterbacks do you know who do that?

"Jim Harbaugh's that kind of coach. He wants tough guys. So that made perfect sense."

He also went on to say that Alex throws the best deep ball of any QB he has ever coached.
Is this the same Urban Meyer who recently predicted that Tim Tebow would win the super bowl?


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So Urban Meyer is placing Tebow with Alex Smith. Damned with faint praise.

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Old 04-28-2013, 01:50 PM   #172
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Here is another Urban Meyer comment:

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"He is a guy that -- I keep hearing how Brett Favre kind of makes something out of nothing and is a person that runs around to make a play -- Alex Smith is not that kind of player."
http://www.ninersnation.com/2008/7/1...on-49ers-qb-al

I think the Chiefs fans kind of sorta want that kind of player. Just a wild ass guess on my part.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:53 PM   #173
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Here is another Urban Meyer comment:



http://www.ninersnation.com/2008/7/1...on-49ers-qb-al

I think the Chiefs fans kind of sorta want that kind of player. Just a wild ass guess on my part.
I know most will disagree with me here, but I don't want a Brett Favre type either, unless he plays under some control like Favre did while Holmgren was still there.

I don't want the dumbass from '99(?) and beyond.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:53 PM   #174
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Am still perplexed how Andy Reid can sit there and tell us we are going to pass attack with this football team and then turn around and have Alex Smith as starting quaterback. This is what we get true fans can rejoyce. Alex Smith best attribute is much like Matt Cassel in that they both could hand the ball off to running backs to find success.
Pass attack to his running backs.

2010 RB LeSean McCoy lead the team with 78 catches.
2007 RB Brian Westbrook lead the team with 90 catches.
2006 RB Brian Westbrook lead the team with 77 catches.
2005 RB Brian Westbrook lead the team with 61 catches.
2005 RB Brian Westbrook had 73 catches.
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Old 04-28-2013, 02:00 PM   #175
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I call trolling considering the recent state of the franchise.
Trolling not intended.

I would gladly go 1-15 three years running if it GUARANTEED a Lomardi in year 4. Yes, that would be a big black stain on the franchise, but I don't measure with black stains. Just Lombardis.

I would suffer any cost to my team to win the super bowl. Baltimore just dismantled their Defense. Who cares? They have 2 rings.

Is that worth missing the playoffs a few years? You bet it is.
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Old 04-28-2013, 02:03 PM   #176
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[QUOTE=Kaepernick;9640996]Is this the same Urban Meyer who recently predicted that Tim Tebow would win the super bowl?






Urban could if he wanted to have almost any NFL job available. He knows a bit more than us and whos to say that Tebow cant be good. He got railroaded this past year by the Jests whatever happend to letting a guy develop. Isnt this what everyone and there brother is bitching about not drafting Geno? Drafting a guy to develop. Tebow is a young guy, why cant he be developed in the right situation. This is what Meyer is talking about. What a terrible place to play QB in NY. It is a dam mess up there. Bet you wouldnt mind having a playoff win recently. The kid never even got the opportunity to compete. Thats all these guys ask for is a fair shake an the jets purposely didnt give him one because of the publicity and the money they gave sanchez. His future is still being written
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Trolling not intended.

I would gladly go 1-15 three years running if it GUARANTEED a Lomardi in year 4. Yes, that would be a big black stain on the franchise, but I don't measure with black stains. Just Lombardis.

I would suffer any cost to my team to win the super bowl. Baltimore just dismantled their Defense. Who cares? They have 2 rings.

Is that worth missing the playoffs a few years? You bet it is.
except they just rebuilt it, and possibly made it better. if not just as good and younger. You know nothing about football. NOTHING.
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Old 04-28-2013, 02:27 PM   #178
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except they just rebuilt it, and possibly made it better. if not just as good and younger. You know nothing about football. NOTHING.
If you're speaking of the Chiefs, what they "made it" is "servicable". So there's that.
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Trolling not intended.

I would gladly go 1-15 three years running if it GUARANTEED a Lomardi in year 4. Yes, that would be a big black stain on the franchise, but I don't measure with black stains. Just Lombardis.

I would suffer any cost to my team to win the super bowl. Baltimore just dismantled their Defense. Who cares? They have 2 rings.

Is that worth missing the playoffs a few years? You bet it is.
There are no guarantees though. We just had the first pick in the draft and although I kind of like our draft it wasn't really all that wonderful of position to be in. I guess we could go O-fer until the next Andy Luck came along in ten years.
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Just throwing out 3 game manager sorts. Not banging the table for any of those guys.

Alex Smith is somewhere between the 15th and 20th best QB in the NFL. Even after his last two seasons. He's still a game manager. The difference between Smith and someone like the 20th to 25th best QB managing games for you is what?

1 game? 2 games? MAYBE 3 games?

So a team that would go 6-10 with Carson Palmer goes 9-7 with Alex Smith instead? Best case scenario?

What is there to be excited about there? What is there to say "Yes, it was worth trading two second-round picks for this guy"?

More money in Clark's pocket, and that's about it.
He's certainly not the 20th and is probably better than the 15th. He's probably something like the 12th or 13th. I've said all along that I feel like his ceiling is something like 2003-2005 Trent Green, who was perhaps the premier 'game manager' type QB of the modern era. He 'managed' the #1 offense in football for a few years there. If we can get that sort of performance out of Smith I think we'd all be thrilled.

As far as getting excited, I'm getting excited about 1)massive upgrade in the coaching 2) general upgrade in overall personnel. Smith was simply the only real option at QB this year. Wish it was different, but it just isn't.
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