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Old 09-19-2015, 09:34 PM  
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Jeremiah Trotter thinks Andy Reid got out-coached in a lot of games

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Jeremiah Trotter played a total of seven seasons for Andy Reid in three different stints with the Eagles. And he thinks he lost a lot of games because Reid got out-coached.

“If it came down to both teams were even, talent-wise,*I think the opponent’s team would win if it came down to coaching,” Trotter said on 97.5 The Fanatic, via Philly.com. “Andy Reid got out-coached in a lot of games, man, a lot of big games,” Trotter continued. “Time outs, running the football, you know.”

Trotter said Reid’s offensive style made things different for the defense and the late defensive coordinator Jim Johnson, who ran the defense in Philadelphia until his death in 2008.

“As a defense, we understood we passed the ball too much. You know, there’s times we’re sitting over there like, ‘Man, listen. Just get us a couple of first downs so we can get a break.’ And I’m sure it frustrated Jim Johnson also,” Trotter said

Still, Trotter acknowledges that he won a lot of games during his time with Reid, and he says he would have given Reid a 7.5 or 8 on a scale of 1-10. I shudder to think what he’d say about a coach who was a 1.
Good coaches don't get out coached in a lot of games.
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Old 09-29-2015, 03:38 PM   #121
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Is Charles now the "accountability" guy?

Sad.
The whole thing is ****ing sad.
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Old 09-29-2015, 03:41 PM   #122
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Is Charles now the "accountability" guy?

Sad.
The ****ing absentee owner doesn't hold anyone accountable so thankfully someone is speaking up.
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Old 09-29-2015, 04:58 PM   #123
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The ****ing absentee owner doesn't hold anyone accountable so thankfully someone is speaking up.
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Old 09-29-2015, 09:42 PM   #124
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The ****ing absentee owner doesn't hold anyone accountable so thankfully someone is speaking up.
The only thing Chunt cares about is asses in the seats.

The stupid mother****er didn't even want to fire Pioli, his family and Mark Donovan had to overrule him.
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:04 PM   #125
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Seems like when the Offense can't execute the scripted drives is when the weird playcalling comes in. Players play a part in it, too.
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:21 PM   #126
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Seems like when the Offense can't execute the scripted drives is when the weird playcalling comes in. Players play a part in it, too.
If that's the case, it's pretty ****ed up because Bill Walsh scripted his first 15 plays for a reason, trying to exploit certain mismatches and attack certain areas of the defense and based on how those plays went he would call the rest of the game.

Only a terrible coach gets flustered when things don't go right and starts throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks.

That being said...

I don't think Reid gets flustered and starts calling weird plays; that would show some type of awareness and reaction. He just calls weird stuff sometimes. It's what makes Andy...Andy.

Maybe we can put the scripted plays on a bib??
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If that's the case, it's pretty ****ed up because Bill Walsh scripted his first 15 plays for a reason, trying to exploit certain mismatches and attack certain areas of the defense and based on how those plays went he would call the rest of the game.

Only a terrible coach gets flustered when things don't go right and starts throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks.

That being said...

I don't think Reid gets flustered and starts calling weird plays; that would show some type of awareness and reaction. He just calls weird stuff sometimes. It's what makes Andy...Andy.

Maybe we can put the scripted plays on a bib??
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Old 10-05-2015, 10:06 AM   #128
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Is it really a surprise? Reid is the most overrated coach in the league.
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Old 10-05-2015, 10:15 AM   #129
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Good coaches don't get out coached in a lot of games.
Is this news?
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Is this news?
No.

That's kinda the point - it's who Andy Reid is.
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Is it really a surprise? Reid is the most overrated coach in the league.
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I had to go back and look to see the exact year, but I do remember the Eagles coming in and beating KC. It was 2005 and typically, if KC got up by more than 14, they won the game. In this case with 4 minutes before half time, KC took a 24-6 lead, Philly did score just before half to bring to an eleven point game. They went on to score 18 unanswered...

Granted KC's defense back then wasnt that great, but KC's vaunted offense got shut down before a late last minute TD to make it 37-31 Eagles.

I remember that game distinctly because back then if KC got a decent lead, it could outscore opponents. Probably the only time in the Vermeil era another team came back from a 14+ point deficit to win.
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Well, Reid got outcoached by Belichick. Anyone surprised?
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I had to go back and look to see the exact year, but I do remember the Eagles coming in and beating KC. It was 2005 and typically, if KC got up by more than 14, they won the game. In this case with 4 minutes before half time, KC took a 24-6 lead, Philly did score just before half to bring to an eleven point game. They went on to score 18 unanswered...

Granted KC's defense back then wasnt that great, but KC's vaunted offense got shut down before a late last minute TD to make it 37-31 Eagles.

I remember that game distinctly because back then if KC got a decent lead, it could outscore opponents. Probably the only time in the Vermeil era another team came back from a 14+ point deficit to win.
Beating KC in any era doesn't exactly bolster a HC's cred...
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Well, Reid got outcoached by Belichick. Anyone surprised?
Being outcoached by Belichick doesn't say much. It's not like he got owned by Brian Daboll or anything.
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