Stone Temple Pilots fire lead singer

[Mr. Laz]

STONE TEMPLE PILOTS
FIRE Lead Singer
Scott Weiland
BREAKING NEWS
Stone Temple Pilots has unceremoniously FIRED its lead singer Scott Weiland ... who's been the face of the seminal rock band for 20 years.

The group released an ominously curt statement today, saying, "Stone Temple Pilots have announced they have officially terminated Scott Weiland." They don't give any further explanation.

It's pretty shocking for several reasons ... the main being Weiland has been a core member of the group since it came together in 1986. His voice has become synonymous with STP's sound ... on hits like "Plush," "Sour Girl," and "Sex Type Thing."

Another reason this came out of nowhere ... Weiland denied rumors he was leaving the band just yesterday, telling Rolling Stone, "STP has not broken up. I haven't quit. I haven't been fired."

Rumors of a split began a couple of months ago when Slash said STP had fired Weiland.

STP reformed in 2008 after a 5-year hiatus and toured through last year -- but apparently it hasn't been working out.

So far, it's unclear who STP has in mind to replace Weiland ... if anyone.

Weiland is set to launch a solo tour next month.


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[lcarus]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Probably because he can't stay off the smack.

Didn't STP start sucking when he DID get off the smack lol. Not that I was ever a big fan.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

No, the signal is split - one dry signal (direct), one delayed signal (direct) and one to the amp, which is miked.

Pretty intricate for some backwoods yokels in the middle of MO...but between cowtipping and getting high on meth, we gots nothin' else ta do round dese here partz...

Wow, talk about an inferiority complex. Jesus.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

Man, I just don't want my record to sound like everyone ****ing body else's ****ing record. I don't have a producer, I don't have anyone with any real recording studio experience, I don't know what I'm doing with digital a good 3/4 of the time...

...I just think that if you record a good performance on good equipment that it should sound good.

That's not me having preconceived notions or thinking I know it all; quite the opposite - it's that I don't know what I'm doing so much that I don't know what else to do, if that makes any sense...

Yes, it sounds like you're inexperienced and don't know what you're doing. There's nothing wrong with that, as everyone needs to start somewhere. But you're mixing up terminology.

Furthermore, taking three signals and combining them into one is a recipe for disaster, IMO. Get a great sound coming from your instrument and amp, then select the best microphone, mic preamp and compressor (if necessary) in order to capture your sound.

Your sound might come for a REDDI box or an old Ampeg or a solid state Acoustic amp. It doesn't matter, as long as it's your sound. Don't get caught up in "Well I read on the internet that if I take a signal from here and one from there and one from there, then mix them, it'll be great!". Phasing is most certainly an issue, unless you're using something like a Little Labs IBP but even still, it should not be difficult.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Wow, talk about an inferiority complex. Jesus.

I thought it was funny, and worth at least a couple of lulz.

Again, I stress the need for a sarcasm font.

You know...because I'm a slack-jawed yokel, I feel like the dorky-wonky smilie thingy is a threat to masculinity or something?? You know. Because posting dorky winky thingies makes you a gay??

(More sarcasm, btw - lighten up, laugh. Don't take any of this so seriously. Especially coming from some snot-nosed, wiseassed, never-was-never-will-be bass player, ya know??)

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yes, it sounds like you're inexperienced and don't know what you're doing. There's nothing wrong with that, as everyone needs to start somewhere. But you're mixing up terminology.

Furthermore, taking three signals and combining them into one is a recipe for disaster, IMO. Get a great sound coming from your instrument and amp, then select the best microphone, mic preamp and compressor (if necessary) in order to capture your sound.

Your sound might come for a REDDI box or an old Ampeg or a solid state Acoustic amp. It doesn't matter, as long as it's your sound. Don't get caught up in "Well I read on the internet that if I take a signal from here and one from there and one from there, then mix them, it'll be great!". Phasing is most certainly an issue, unless you're using something like a Little Labs IBP but even still, it should not be difficult.

old Ampeg/Orange is definitely the sound, and not necessarily recording all three with the intention of mixing them; just to have the options.

Probably going to have someone else (who knows what they're doing) mix it, and that way, you know, for a particular cut he doesn't like the sound of the miked amp. Well, he can take that dry signal and either re-amp or use a plug-in, however he feels is best. It's more to provide options during mixing than to acheive some monstrous bass sound.

Like, the more I hear 'new' albums with 'modern' bass sounds, the more I want to have that old school, warm Ampeg Noel Redding/Geezer Butler sound. To me, the way Paul McCartney's bass sounds on Revolver is ideal. There's almost TOO MUCH bass in the sonic spectrum in music today, but with mp3 and compressed digital formats, along with bigger speaker, modern equipment and evolving tastes, there HAS to be some of that bottom end, or yohr record can't ever compete on any level. Like, it has to sound good on the radio, next to the prominent regional and national acts that it hopefully will be played alongside...

and that's just the BASS; the guitars have been a NIGHTMARE, woth tuning issues, percussive 'chukkas' that muck up the mix, etc.

Yeah...I thought 'we'll just go in and bash out 8-9 songs and mix 'em and call that a record.'

That was over 9 months ago, we're almost halfway through, but with no real end in sight.

[rabblerouser]

so maybe that's why I come across as completely acerbic. I've got musical blue balls.

It's a bitch.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by lcarus

Didn't STP start sucking when he DID get off the smack lol. Not that I was ever a big fan.

Naw, they broke up when he got off the dope. Then he got back i
on the shit, got arrested and then joined VR while in drug court.

Personally, I like all their albums as STP (Purple, Tiny Music, and No. 4 being especially great) and I like Scott Weiland's first solo album 12 Bar Blues quite a bit.

Not a fan of Talk Show, the album the STP guys did without Weiland, so me thinks them 'firing' him is a big mistake, and that they could possibly make up sooner rather than later, something somewhat akin to when Tommy Lee was 'fired' from Mötley for about 6 months in 2009...

[Omaha]

Seven Mary Three and Days of the New were my favorite hilarious copycat bands from that era. I feel like they go under-appreciated for paving the way for Nickelback and Creed.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Omaha

Seven Mary Three and Days of the New were my favorite hilarious copycat bands from that era. I feel like they go under-appreciated for paving the way for Nickelback and Creed.

Days of the New's first album was released on June 4th, 1997.

Creed's first album was released on June 24th, 1997.

[Omaha]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Days of the New's first album was released on June 4th, 1997.

Creed's first album was released on June 24th, 1997.

Yeah. They were very efficient pavers.

[Easy 6]

Speaking of GNR, did anyone catch the VH1 concert from london last saturday?

Gotta say, they sounded awesome... Axls voice hasnt been that good in ten years, it was GREAT to hear all of the stuff from the Illusion albums live.

Axl looks like he's kinda going through the motions more than i ever remember, he doesnt have that physical fire he used to, but still, he sounded very good.

Feel like punching myself in the junk for forgetting to record it... it made them seem relevant again.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

old Ampeg/Orange is definitely the sound, and not necessarily recording all three with the intention of mixing them; just to have the options.

Probably going to have someone else (who knows what they're doing) mix it, and that way, you know, for a particular cut he doesn't like the sound of the miked amp. Well, he can take that dry signal and either re-amp or use a plug-in, however he feels is best. It's more to provide options during mixing than to acheive some monstrous bass sound.

Like, the more I hear 'new' albums with 'modern' bass sounds, the more I want to have that old school, warm Ampeg Noel Redding/Geezer Butler sound. To me, the way Paul McCartney's bass sounds on Revolver is ideal. There's almost TOO MUCH bass in the sonic spectrum in music today, but with mp3 and compressed digital formats, along with bigger speaker, modern equipment and evolving tastes, there HAS to be some of that bottom end, or yohr record can't ever compete on any level. Like, it has to sound good on the radio, next to the prominent regional and national acts that it hopefully will be played alongside...

and that's just the BASS; the guitars have been a NIGHTMARE, woth tuning issues, percussive 'chukkas' that muck up the mix, etc.

Yeah...I thought 'we'll just go in and bash out 8-9 songs and mix 'em and call that a record.'

That was over 9 months ago, we're almost halfway through, but with no real end in sight.

This post illustrates perfectly what I tell young kids that want a career in the music business: Go to school.

Go to Berkelee School of Music, USC Film school, UCLA Film school, NYU, etc. There are very few people working successfully (and by that, I mean actually earning "real" money) in the music business that didn't graduate from one of those prestigious schools.

Whether it Film/TV composition and production, Music Supervision, marketing and promotions, songwriting, etc., it's nearly impossible to compete with well-educated and extremely talented individuals that had had the benefit of a music education taught by the world's best teachers.

You're a mid-20's guy in Missouri that's needed more than nine months to cut 12 songs. I know film and TV composer/producers that create 12 Master Quality tracks per day.

It's a really, really tough road otherwise. Good luck, Dude!

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Omaha

Yeah. They were very efficient pavers.

Actually, the deal with Days of the New is that Travis wanted to be "different" and have no electric guitars allowed, ever. Then he went on to have substance abuse issues, fired the band (which became Tantric, with a new singer), then put out an electronic record.

It's a shame because he was a talented dude but a complete train wreck. Oh, and he had the stage presence of a can of soup.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by scott free

Speaking of GNR, did anyone catch the VH1 concert from london last saturday?

Gotta say, they sounded awesome... Axls voice hasnt been that good in ten years, it was GREAT to hear all of the stuff from the Illusion albums live.

Axl looks like he's kinda going through the motions more than i ever remember, he doesnt have that physical fire he used to, but still, he sounded very good.

Feel like punching myself in the junk for forgetting to record it... it made them seem relevant again.

All of those "Live Concerts" go through an enormous amount of audio post-production, including tuning the vocals with with either Autotune or Melodyne.

That said, the new GNR band is comprised of some ridiculously talented players but to me, they come off as bland because they're so good. Slash and Duff and Izzy and Steven were "feel" players. The difference between Matt and Adler's drumming is shocking and Matt's songs don't "feel" anywhere near as "good" as Steven's. This was no more apparent than their Rock And Roll Hall of Fame induction, where Guns and Roses sounded like Guns and Roses (minus Axl).

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

All of those "Live Concerts" go through an enormous amount of audio post-production, including tuning the vocals with with either Autotune or Melodyne.

That said, the new GNR band is comprised of some ridiculously talented players but to me, they come off as bland because they're so good. Slash and Duff and Izzy and Steven were "feel" players. The difference between Matt and Adler's drumming is shocking and Matt's songs don't "feel" anywhere near as "good" as Steven's. This was no more apparent than their Rock And Roll Hall of Fame induction, where Guns and Roses sounded like Guns and Roses (minus Axl).

Dane, do you think we will ever get an Axel/Slash reunion in our lifetime?