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Old 11-03-2017, 01:51 PM  
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US Government Releases Climate Science Special Report (NCA4)

"No convincing alternative explanation."

Massive Government Report Says Climate Is Warming And Humans Are The Cause

It is "extremely likely" that human activities are the "dominant cause" of global warming, according to the most comprehensive study ever of climate science by U.S. government researchers.

The climate report, obtained by NPR, notes that the past 115 years are "the warmest in the history of modern civilization." The global average temperature has increased by about 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit over that period. Greenhouse gases from industry and agriculture are by far the biggest contributor to warming.

The findings contradict statements by President Trump and many of his Cabinet members, who have openly questioned the role humans play in changing the climate.

"I believe that measuring with precision human activity on the climate is something very challenging to do," EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt said in an interview earlier this year. "There's tremendous disagreement about the degree of impact."

That is not consistent with the conclusions of the 600-plus-page Climate Science Special Report, which is part of an even larger scientific review known as the fourth National Climate Assessment. The NCA4, as it's known, is the nation's most authoritative assessment of climate science. The report's authors include experts from leading scientific agencies, including the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, NASA and the Department of Energy, as well as academic scientists.

The report states that the global climate will continue to warm. How much, it says, "will depend primarily on the amount of greenhouse gases (especially carbon dioxide) emitted globally." Without major reductions in emissions, it says, the increase in annual average global temperature could reach 9 degrees Fahrenheit relative to pre-industrial times. Efforts to reduce emissions, it says, would slow the rate of warming.

"This is good, solid climate science," says Richard Alley, a geoscientist at Penn State University, who says he made minor contributions to the report's conclusions on sea level rise. "This has been reviewed so many times in so many ways, and it's taking what we know from ... a couple of centuries of climate science and applying it to the U.S."

The assessments are required by an act of Congress; the last one was published in 2014. Alley says this year's goes further in attributing changes in weather to the warming climate, especially weather extremes. "More heat waves and fewer cold snaps, this is very clear," he says. The report also notes that warmer temperatures have contributed to the rise in forest fires in the West and that the incidence of those fires is expected to keep rising.

Some of the clearest effects involve sea level rise. "Coastal flooding, you raise the mean level of the ocean, everything else equal you get more coastal flooding," Alley says. The report notes that sea level has risen 7 to 8 inches since 1900, and 3 inches of that occurred since 1993. The report says that rate is faster than during any century over the past 2,800 years.

The report also points out that heavy rainfall is increasing in intensity and frequency across the U.S., especially in the Northeast, and that is expected to keep increasing.

Other connections are harder to nail down, Alley says, such as whether a particular hurricane can be attributed to climate change.

"The Climate Science Special Report is like going to a doctor and being given a report on your vital signs," says environmental scientist Rachel Licker of the Union of Concerned Scientists. She notes that the authors assessed more than 1,500 scientific studies and reports in making their conclusions.

Alley adds that the new report "does a better job of seeing the human fingerprint in what's happening." He says that while he hasn't read all of it yet, he sees no evidence that it has been soft-pedaled or understates the certainty of the science.

Alley notes that "there's a little rumbling" among climate scientists who are concerned that the Trump administration will ignore this effort. "I think the authors really are interested in seeing [the report] used wisely by policymakers to help the economy as well as the environment."

The report has been submitted to the Office of Science and Technology Policy at the White House. Trump has yet to choose anyone to run that office; it remains one of the last unfilled senior positions in the White House staff.
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:52 PM   #16
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"we were heading to the next ice age"


and you validated you have no clue what an "ice age" is...


The DATA should help.

In the past million years, Greenland froze while North America thawed...


Here's what the data from Greenland says....


https://www.livescience.com/7331-anc...and-green.html


"The DNA is proof that sometime between 450,000 and 800,000 years ago, much of Greenland was especially green and covered in a boreal forest "



And as recently as 10k years ago, glaciers were still present in INDIANA....

https://www.google.com/search?q=nort...active&ssui=on
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:56 PM   #17
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"Nobody is lying about the Marshall Islands. They are experiencing expected sea level rise."


Why isn't Hawaii sinking?

Why is NOTHING sinking except the Marshall Islands, the Solomon Islands, and one other island chain by New Guinea?



How do you get a sea level rise on Earth when 90% of Earth's ice is gaining at least 80 billion tons every year?



Just how ****ING STUPID does one get BAWKING 24/7/365?
Because sea level isn't the same at every place on the globe. Stupid is thinking that should or would be the case. Also, I just provided you evidence that earth's ice is not gaining. 2017 is the smallest global ice extent in 39 years.


Source: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global-snow/201709
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Old 11-03-2017, 03:00 PM   #18
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"Because (bogus) sea level ("rise") isn't the same at every place on the globe."


LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!





"2017 is the smallest global ice extent in 39 years."


SEA ICE is what % of total Earth ice, Fish?


I'll give you a clue

Antarctica = 90%

Greenland = 7%

everything else including sea ice = 3%
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Old 11-03-2017, 03:01 PM   #19
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The simple truth is that the Marshall Islands are sinking because the tectonic plate underneath them is going "under" the adjacent plate via the Pacific Ring of Fire.

The Marshall Islands will be under the Earth's crust in 3 million years.
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Old 11-03-2017, 03:06 PM   #20
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The reasons why the "Warmers" hype the "sinking Marshall Islands" is that they have no actual sea level rise, because they have no net ice melt ongoing, which is why 90% of Earth ice on Antarctica is growing every year.

The "warmers" count on the IDIOCY of their "believers" to never check a MAP and LOOK WHERE THE MARSHALL ISLANDS ARE, WHERE THE SOLOMON ISLANDS ARE, and WHERE THE PACIFIC RING OF FIRE IS....
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Old 11-03-2017, 03:08 PM   #21
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Surely 1.8F is within the margin of error, no?
I didn't think they give margins of error for confidence levels.



EDIT: Page 5-8 addresses this.
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Old 11-03-2017, 03:17 PM   #22
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Fish must be a sloppy scientist himself, when he can't observe on the front page of DC that there is already a thread up on this already.

Oh and my response is the same as in the other—it's the govt.
Yeah, it's here to help along with all their other phony reports, statistics and lies that get us into wars.
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Old 11-03-2017, 03:30 PM   #23
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He ran away when the questioning started just like Fish....
Fish doesn't care about immigration which substantially increases emissions. So he doesn't really care about global warming when it comes down to it
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Old 11-03-2017, 03:36 PM   #24
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"we were heading to the next ice age"


and you validated you have no clue what an "ice age" is...


The DATA should help.

In the past million years, Greenland froze while North America thawed...


Here's what the data from Greenland says....


https://www.livescience.com/7331-anc...and-green.html


"The DNA is proof that sometime between 450,000 and 800,000 years ago, much of Greenland was especially green and covered in a boreal forest "



And as recently as 10k years ago, glaciers were still present in INDIANA....

https://www.google.com/search?q=nort...active&ssui=on
If you are commenting on my post, I think we are on the same side. I was saying in the 70s they said we were headed for a new ice age, that then changed to global warming. That didn't happen so now it is climate change... It is their religion was my point.
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Old 11-03-2017, 03:44 PM   #25
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If you are commenting on my post, I think we are on the same side. I was saying in the 70s they said we were headed for a new ice age, that then changed to global warming. That didn't happen so now it is climate change... It is their religion was my point.
Actually, that's a myth.

Here's the story on how that myth came to be if you're really interested:

https://arstechnica.com/science/2016...oming-ice-age/

There's lots of links to what was actually being said by climate scientists in the 70s.
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I didn't think they give margins of error for confidence levels.



EDIT: Page 5-8 addresses this.
That's nice, but is the 1.8F within the margin of error not?
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Old 11-03-2017, 04:10 PM   #27
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The UN Admits That The Paris Climate Deal Was A Fraud

Global Hot Air: Here's a United Nations climate report that environmentalists probably don't want anybody to read. It says that even if every country abides by the grand promises they made last year in Paris to reduce greenhouse gases, the planet would still be "doomed."



When President Obama hitched America to the Paris accords in 2016, he declared that it was "the moment that we finally decided to save our planet." And when Trump pulled out of the deal this year, he was berated by legions of environmentalists for killing it.

But it turns out that the Paris accord was little more than a sham that will do nothing to "save the planet."

According to the latest annual UN report on the "emissions gap," the Paris agreement will provide only a third of the cuts in greenhouse gas that environmentalists claim is needed to prevent catastrophic warming. If every country involved in those accords abides by their pledges between now and 2030 — which is a dubious proposition — temperatures will still rise by 3 degrees C by 2100. The goal of the Paris agreement was to keep the global temperature increase to under 2 degrees.

Eric Solheim, head of the U.N. Environment Program, which produces the annual report, said this week that "One year after the Paris Agreement entered into force, we still find ourselves in a situation where we are not doing nearly enough to save hundreds of millions of people from a miserable future. Governments, the private sector and civil society must bridge this catastrophic climate gap."

The report says unless global greenhouse gas emissions peak before 2020, the CO2 levels will be way above the goal set for 2030, which, it goes on, will make it "extremely unlikely that the goal of holding global warming to well below 2 degrees C can still be reached."

Not to worry. The UN claims that closing this gap will be easy enough, if nations set their collective minds to it.

But this is a fantasy. The list of what would need to be done by 2020 — a little over two years from now — includes: Boosting renewable energy's share to 30%. Pushing electric cars to 15% of new car sales, up from less than 1% today. Doubling mass transit use. Cutting air travel CO2 emissions by 20%. And coming up with $1 trillion for "climate action."

Oh, and coal-fired power plants would have to be phased out worldwide, starting now.

According to the report, "phasing out coal consumption … is an indispensable condition for achieving international climate change targets." That means putting a halt to any new coal plants while starting to phase out the ones currently in use.

Good luck with that. There are currently 273 gigawatts of coal capacity under construction around the world, and another 570 gigawatts in the pipeline, the UN says. That would represent a 42% increase in global energy production from coal. Does anyone really think developing countries who need coal as a cheap source of fuel to grow their economies will suddenly call it quits?

So, does this mean the planet is doomed? Hardly. As we have noted in this space many times, all those forecasts of global catastrophe are based on computer models that have been unreliable predictors of warming. And all of the horror stories assume the worst.

What the report does make clear, however, is that all the posturing by government leaders in Paris was just that. Posturing. None of these countries intended to take the drastic and economically catastrophic steps environmentalist claim are needed to prevent a climate change doomsday. As such, Trump was right to stop pretending.

Whether you believe in climate change or not, the Paris climate accord amounted to nothing, or pretty close to it. Even the UN admits that now.


https://www.investors.com/politics/e...l-was-a-fraud/
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The UN Admits That The Paris Climate Deal Was A Fraud


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Title is false.

FYI... both China and India are already surpassing their climate goals.

China Making Progress on Climate Goals Faster than Expected

India, Once a Coal Goliath, Is Fast Turning Green
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