**Official USA vs Germany World Cup Match Thread**

[|Zach|]

USA vs Germany | Recife | Group G | 11 CT | ESPN

This is the big one.

If the United States ties or wins they advance to the knock out stage of the World Cup. There are also scenarios that are not that outlandish that let them move on if they lose but **** those scenarios.

[SPATCH]

Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss

Maybe, but it's entertaining. Rugby is a joke of a sport. Most stop playing smear-the-queer after grade school.

Look at you....

Having to defend football. How pathetic.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Originally Posted by SPATCH

Look at you....

Having to defend football. How pathetic.

I may be a USMNT troll, but I'm not a "soccer is dumb/boring" troll.

My post was less about football, more about Rugby, and nothing about soccer.

Nice try.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Turning on football on a Chiefs board is strange though.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Turning on football on a Chiefs board is strange though.

Eh, I bitch about football plenty on here. I loved it 15 years ago, but it's not even the same game these days. I'm here more for the discussion than the Chiefs these days.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Turning on football on a Chiefs board is strange though.

how is it strange? the game has changed and while it may be for the masses, the people that want to actually see "football in its purest" form are getting shafted. Football is mostly College ball now with the spread going on. I enjoy it, but not like i used too.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

It's still the best thing going by 9 country miles instead of 10 for the whiners....but the world cup is awesome

[SPATCH]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Turning on football on a Chiefs board is strange though.

I was more trying to make a point about the absurdity of this post:

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog

This thread is hilarious.

You don't see people having to defend real football.

Soccer fans are insecure.

I still love the shit out of football and the Chiefs. Although, I have been a bit jaded by the whole CTE thing.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss

I may be a USMNT troll, but I'm not a "soccer is dumb/boring" troll.

My post was less about football, more about Rugby, and nothing about soccer.

Nice try.

Rudy did you notice how Bradley was supposed to be marking the German striker who initially got his foot on the ball that led to the rebound goal from Thomas Muller?

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

the only thing more boring than teh 5 guys left in america that need to loudly proclaim that they don't like soccer...


...is baseball

That's what I'm sayin'!

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by SPATCH

You're right. I'll probably have to look into it a little bit more.

I would tend to think that wearing a mouthpiece would do a lot to minimize the effect of simple headers, but I could be wrong.

It just seems to me that the amount of blows and the severity of the blows taken in soccer is far less than that of football.

I was getting ready to say that you don't hear many stories about former players offing themselves or slipping into dementia. But, I just remembered a story about a German goalkeeper who played for the national team that tossed himself in front of a train out of nowhere. Damn....

**** it, my son is going in a bubble.

No. I disagree here. With headers, if done right, you are delivering a blow to the ball, not the other way around, and there is hardly a real impact to speak of. The real concern is butting heads with a opposing player.

That said, my kid will be taught to never head the ball unless it's a pass, or a shot. Not b/c of concussion concerns(even though it's a valid issue), but b/c most headers are unnecessary, and do little to maintain possession. I hate inexperienced players who head everything that comes their way, even sky rocketing goal kicks from the other half if the field. Stupid. Trap the ball. Get it to your feet, control it, and find your teammates.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by SPATCH

I do wonder if some of those headers can give you a "sub-concussive" blow. I haven't played enough soccer to know.

There is a great concern that the constant sub-concussive blows that a football player experiences start to pile up and have a detrimental effect.

I've only played a little bit of soccer, but I've had my bell rung a little bit on some headers before.

Were you the guy heading goal kicks from the other end off the field? Don't do that!

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I've never had any ill effects from a header I intended and managed to meet with my forehead, some that missed and glanced off behind my ear were a tad painful, though.

I really don't think most novice players realize the header zone of your head. Top of the forehead. Probably the same area a fighter would use to DELIVER a blow, not share one.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by aturnis

No. I disagree here. With headers, if done right, you are delivering a blow to the ball, not the other way around, and there is hardly a real impact to speak of. The real concern is butting heads with a opposing player.

That said, my kid will be taught to never head the ball unless it's a pass, or a shot. Not b/c of concussion concerns(even though it's a valid issue), but b/c most headers are unnecessary, and do little to maintain possession. I hate inexperienced players who head everything that comes their way, even sky rocketing goal kicks from the other half if the field. Stupid. Trap the ball. Get it to your feet, control it, and find your teammates.

To be fair, when experienced players do it, it's because the ball is coming down in traffic and that is the highest point at which your can influence it. Trying to trap it and get it to your feet means that the defenseman is going to get to it above you and leave you holding your dork.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

To be fair, when experienced players do it, it's because the ball is coming down in traffic and that is the highest point at which your can influence it. Trying to trap it and get it to your feet means that the defenseman is going to get to it above you and leave you holding your dork.

Yeah, in traffic is fair, but still, go somewhere with it.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by aturnis

No. I disagree here. With headers, if done right, you are delivering a blow to the ball, not the other way around, and there is hardly a real impact to speak of. The real concern is butting heads with a opposing player.

That said, my kid will be taught to never head the ball unless it's a pass, or a shot. Not b/c of concussion concerns(even though it's a valid issue), but b/c most headers are unnecessary, and do little to maintain possession. I hate inexperienced players who head everything that comes their way, even sky rocketing goal kicks from the other half if the field. Stupid. Trap the ball. Get it to your feet, control it, and find your teammates.

I don't think that's possible due to physics.