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Old 05-21-2017, 09:46 PM  
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Big game hunter crushed to death

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A professional big game hunter is dead after he was crushed by a wounded elephant as it was fatally shot.

Theunis Botha, 51, was on a hunt in Gwai, Zimbabwe, when his gro[/URL]up was charged by four breeding elephants.

A female elephant picked up Botha in her trunk after he fired at the others and collapsed on top of him - crushing him to death - after she was shot by another hunter.

Heartbroken friends described the married father-of-five as a "legend", while opponents of big game hunting offered little sympathy following his passing.


Theunis Botha was killed by an elephant when he was on a hunt in Zimbabwe (Photo: Facebook)

Botha often took wealthy foreigners on hunts for leopards and other animals (Photo: Theunis Botha/Youtube)

Botha and two other men pose with the giant tusks of an elephant
Botha, from the South African town of Tzaneen, and the rest of the group were out for a walk on Friday afternoon when they came across the herd.

A source told Netwerk24 that Botha shot at three elephant cows as they stormed the hunters.

A fourth cow stormed from the side, lifted Botha with her trunk and was fatally shot by another hunter. The elephant then collapsed onto Botha.


Elephants and lions were among the animals hunted during Botha's safaris

Botha came from a family of cattle ranchers and big game hunters

Botha and another man pose with a crocodile that was killed during a hunt
The South African specialised in big game safaris and often took wealthy foreigners on hunts for lions, leopards and other animals after founding his own company in the 1980s.

Friends paid tribute to him on Facebook, where one wrote: "RIP Theunis Botha. Our heartfelt condolences to Carike and family. He was a great man! So sad!"


Botha's company was called Theunis Botha Big Game Safaris and Hounds

One of Botha's friends (not pictured) was recently killed by a crocodile during a hunt

Another friend added: "A legend has fallen but will never be forgotten... It's with a sad heart that we say goodbye to you Oom Theunis Botha. Our deepest condolences to the family. May God be with you all in this difficult time."

Critics of big game hunting responded with little sympathy.

One person wrote: "You should be crying for the innocent elephant that was senselessly murdered not this idiot hunter who deserved what he got."

Heartbroken friends described Botha as a "legend" of big game hunting (Photo: Facebook)

The married father-of-five ran his own safari company out of South Africa (Photo: Theunis Botha/Youtube)
Botha's friend, Scott van Zyl, 44, was killed by crocodiles during a hunt in Zimbabwe last month, Netwerk24 reported.

Botha's company, called Theunis Botha Big Game Safaris and Hounds, as he was known to hunt with dogs, is a family operation run with his wife Carike.

In 1878 his ancestors moved into a wild and rugged region of South Africa, becoming cattle ranchers and hunters, the firm's website states.

It adds: "In the year of ’66 Theunis became the latest addition to his family, and was privileged to be raised in the ways of the bush and its people."

He served in the South African infantry during the Angolan War and left the Army after reaching the rank of sergeant.

After returning home he started offering hunting safaris in 1989 to pay for his studies, and completed a degree in psychology and anthropology in 1991.

His first client, Bill Reynolds, from the US state of Montana, hunted a leopard on the family's game ranch bordering Kruger National Park after his hounds picked up the animal's scent, the website states.

It added that Botha pioneered traditional European-style Monteria hunts, where game are driven with dogs, in South Africa.
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Old 05-22-2017, 01:57 AM   #46
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Old 05-22-2017, 02:00 AM   #47
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I will say this: I eat meat therefore I cannot claim any position of moral superiority compared to someone who hunts. A hunter kills, but I pay someone else to do the killing for me. The difference (to me) is that a hunter enjoys the kill. I don't. I would kill an animal and eat it if that was how I had to get my food. But I don't take pleasure from killing. Does that difference make me a 'better' person than the hunter? Again, no it doesn't. It means that for me it would be wrong to do, so I don't hunt, because I don't have to. I do despise trophy killing because it feels very wrong to me. But in the end that animal does not give a flying **** whether you want to kill him because you're hungry or you want to kill him because you want some sort of prize. Dead is dead.
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Old 05-22-2017, 02:17 AM   #49
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I wonder if there isn't a way to raise as much cash to support conservation another way? As an evolutionist, I don't think it is hypocritical at all to protect some animals more than others based on their cognitive development. Eat dumb cows. Preserve smart and emotionally developed elephants.
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Old 05-22-2017, 03:30 AM   #50
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. But it is a twisted **** that is glad a person dies simply because of disagreement about game management principles.
Nope...dont give two shits about this sadistic ****...or what genetic code he unfortunately passed on to the world. If you kill for fun...it doesn't just stop there. I dont know anyone that seeks out killing beautiful animals for entertainment...and dont want to. That level of empathetic disconnect is frightening,

If you want to rationalize this as an activity spiritually grounded people do, go ahead..I'm sure it's a rush to watch a leopard wither in pain, piss itself as blood pours out of its mouth...while you slap hands and chest-butt hiding behind a bush like a coward with a laser scope. "we got that bastard minding it's own business"..."**** yeah". "I'm thinking Arbys"....****ing sub-species.

This guy decided he wanted to play god...and found out just how tiny he was. The symbolism is classic...nature crushed his ass.

Also..I wouldn't project human deficiencies on animals...they dont kill for sport.

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Nope...dont give two shits about this sadistic ****...or what genetic code he unfortunately passed on to e world. If you kill for fun...it doesn't just stop there. I dont know anyone that seeks out killing beautiful animals for entertainment...and dont want to. That level of empathetic disconnect is frightening,

If you want to rationalize this as an activity spiritually grounded people do, go ahead..I'm sure it's a rush to watch a leopard wither in pain, piss itself as blood pours out of its mouth...while you slap hands and chest-butt hiding behind a bush like a coward with a laser scope. "we got that bastard minding it's own business"..."**** yeah". "I'm thinking Arbys"....****ing sub-species.

This guy decided he wanted to play god...and found out just how tiny he was. The symbolism is classic...nature crushed his ass.

Also..I wouldn't project human deficiencies on animals...they dont kill for sport.
Lots of animals kill for fun.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surplus_killing
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IDead is dead.
Dead is the heart of someone that enjoys/seeks out making something suffer.....

Hunting for food...and hunting because you get off on killing are two different psychological activities.

This wasnt hunting...there was no purpose other than to hang a stuffed head over the mantle place... in hopes your narcissistic peers praise you. "look what I did..arent I AWESOME...mommy...daddy"? It's some weak-ass shit perpetrated by some spiritually-stunted humans.

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Say what you will about hunting...

...but enraging the largest land animal on earth without adequate precaution or protection isn't exactly smart. Speaking of darwin...
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I'm not against hunting....I am against TROPHY hunting.

...IMO that is morally reprehensible.
This sums up my feelings on this.
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