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Old 12-11-2012, 09:59 AM  
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2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

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Old 07-02-2013, 11:05 AM   #6451
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I'm treating Lough the same way I did Aviles. I'm optimistic, but he's going to have to prove it his second time through the league.
Yeah, he's filled in nicely, does his job. Potentially naming something after the guy though is Royals Marketing going...well, going full Royals Marketing.
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:21 AM   #6452
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:45 AM   #6453
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:53 AM   #6454
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They signed the Gasparini kid. $1.3 million.

Intriguing prospect. Sounds like competition is his biggest question mark, but he has shined in international competition against legit pitching.

If he sticks at SS, could be a big-time type (switch hitter, 15-20 HR pop, good speed).

The international scouting has REALLY picked it up of late. Most of the best talent in the system (Ventura, Calixte, Cuthbert, Bonifacio, Almonte) is from that source.
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:00 PM   #6455
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:01 PM   #6456
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They signed the Gasparini kid. $1.3 million.

Intriguing prospect. Sounds like competition is his biggest question mark, but he has shined in international competition against legit pitching.

If he sticks at SS, could be a big-time type (switch hitter, 15-20 HR pop, good speed).

The international scouting has REALLY picked it up of late. Most of the best talent in the system (Ventura, Calixte, Cuthbert, Bonifacio, Almonte) is from that source.
What's the deal with this? Royals' international scouting has been outstanding, but our home scouting and drafting leave a lot to be desired...
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:21 PM   #6457
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What's the deal with this? Royals' international scouting has been outstanding, but our home scouting and drafting leave a lot to be desired...
I don't think it's a scouting issue as much as it's a development issue. Hitters and pitchers have stalled at AAA and AA.

That's to be expected - AA is the biggest jump in talent in the minors - but not at the level the Royals have seen recently.

Bubba Starling was not a scouting issue, for example. He was a consensus top 5 pick and was even linked to the Mariners at No. 2 leading up to that draft. The talent was there. Development has not gone well.

You can't fault them much for the injuries to Duffy and Lamb. That's going to happen. The stalled development of first Mike Montgomery and then CHris Dwyer is concerning, too.

Really, the only guys the Royals have taken early who WEREN'T worth their draft slot were Christian Colon and Hunter Dozier. DOzier was done with a specific plan in place, and we saw how that worked out (sean Manaea). Colon was a panic pick in a draft that was viewed as very up-in-the-air after the top 3 guys.

That's really the only high pick the Royals have made that I really disagreed with (Colon). They should have stuck with Chris Sale at that point. But who knows... in the Royals' system, Sale might have turned into a LH version of Aaron Crow.
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Old 07-02-2013, 01:42 PM   #6458
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Now is that six games, or six starts in his case?
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The Tigers better hope that Anibal Sanchez is truly healthy when he returns. If his shoulder problems linger throughout the season (one of the questions lingering before his signing was his injury history), the Tigers could be in trouble.
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Old 07-02-2013, 01:53 PM   #6461
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Now is that six games, or six starts in his case?
Games. Likely 1 start.
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Whatever Porcello has done, I'm sure Scherzer and Verlander were involved in too. Better suspend them just to be sure.
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The Tigers better hope that Anibal Sanchez is truly healthy when he returns. If his shoulder problems linger throughout the season (one of the questions lingering before his signing was his injury history), the Tigers could be in trouble.
Sanchez got hit on the leg with a comebacker yesterday and was pulled from his rehab start. He was supposed to be activated after his start but now will probably have to make at least 1 more.
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Whatever Porcello has done, I'm sure Scherzer and Verlander were involved in too. Better suspend them just to be sure.
http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ss...ed_six_ga.html

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Now is that six games, or six starts in his case?
Neither, really.

It's an extra day or two of rest. He'll appeal, make his start, drop his appeal the day after and serve his 6 games. 4 of those games would've been rest days anyway and if they have an off-day in there, they can shuffle the rotation up to where nobody even misses a start.

To truly force a missed start, a SP needs to be suspended 8-10 games.
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