Chiefs Before the avalanch of "Croyle Sux" threads come, consider this:

Frankie · 08-23-2008, 09:04 PM

I am one who is still on Brodie Croyle's bandwagon. With that out of the way, I have to admit he looked like crap in the first half. But let's look at the possible reasons. I am not totally dismissing that he may not be very good after all, but I think there were factors contributing to his performance tonight:

(A)- Our still learning O-line was facing a 3-4 'D' for the first time. We had all heard that Niswanger's height might give him trouble when he is lined up directly against a nose. Also the difference in blocking assignments was giving our inexperienced O-line problems. All this combined, was depriving Croyle of any reasonable protection. Not having time to scan the field and with his lack of experience, he was locking on his primary receivers and hampering his chances for effective pass plays. With the adjustments in the 2nd half, and the roll-outs we saw a better representation of Croyle's potential. That is reason number one for me to stay on his bandwagon.

(B)- Reason number two is the fact that we all knew he would have up and down games this year. This was a down game for him. Live with it. I, like many a Chiefs fan, have made a promise to myself to consider that factor this year. But unlike many of you, I didn't intend that promise to be just lip service.

milkman · 08-23-2008, 09:06 PM

That's all very good, but the fact is, other than that first drive of the preseason, Croyle really hasn't given anyone much to grasp onto.

blueballs · 08-23-2008, 09:07 PM

rep
for taking off the homer glasses
and still supporting

Mecca · 08-23-2008, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

That's all very good, but the fact is, other than that first drive of the preseason, Croyle really hasn't given anyone much to grasp onto.

Which plays right into his playing time last year he didn't give anyone much, he got injured twice that was about all he really showed.

Mr. Arrowhead · 08-23-2008, 09:08 PM

The chiefs are so cursed, that i almost believe that Croyle will suck this year, we will release him, we will draft a QB in the first round, who will be a bust, while Brodie is a Super Bowl Winning QB.

JuicesFlowing · 08-23-2008, 09:11 PM

I agree. The plethora of Croyle crushing was hilarious tonight. The Chiefs do not have the O-line of say, the Colts or Pats ... And Croyle is not experienced either. Yeah, he made a lot of bad throws, but instead of immediately blaming him I try to factor in everything else. Bad pass protection, receivers not getting open, dropped passes. I'm surprised there isn't a "Carl Peterson lost us this game" thread .... know what i mean?

KCUnited · 08-23-2008, 09:12 PM

Croyle looked like shit tonight, he'd tell you himself.

JuicesFlowing · 08-23-2008, 09:12 PM

Croyle and Peterson are ALWAYS the reason the Chiefs lose. Always. Whatever.

Mecca · 08-23-2008, 09:12 PM

Getting owned on pass rushes by the Dolphins in preseason is a pretty scary sign.

Frankie · 08-23-2008, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

That's all very good, but the fact is, other than that first drive of the preseason, Croyle really hasn't given anyone much to grasp onto.

I think the first drive of the 2nd half was pretty good. Not spectacular, but pretty good. Also on our first drive of the game he hit our star receiver in the hands and it was dropped. A completion there would most likely result in pretty respectable gain. That alone could have set the tempo for that drive and possibly the first half. Who knows?

ChiefsCountry · 08-23-2008, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Getting owned on pass rushes by the Dolphins in preseason is a pretty scary sign.

It improved when McIntosh went out. Richardson didnt look too bad.

Frankie · 08-23-2008, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead

The chiefs are so cursed, that i almost believe that Croyle will suck this year, we will release him, we will draft a QB in the first round, who will be a bust, while Brodie is a Super Bowl Winning QB.

Sometimes it feels that way. But have faith. Maybe we fans collectively should start fighting those negative vibes and start sending positive ones to the team.

**Smed1065** · 08-23-2008, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Which plays right into his playing time last year he didn't give anyone much, he got injured twice that was about all he really showed.

The numbers match a first round pick, so he sucks. ML misses 6 of 18 in the NFL but is not injury prone? BC misses 2? of 8 starting and is? 30% and 25%

It is not about yesterday but now in the NFL I believe.

Yeah, he is thin, he sucks, but ML is better because of his days at usc. Beside the 50 million plus he signed.

Dollar for dollar, you have to hollar for the 80% discount. Unless you have a history.

blueballs · 08-23-2008, 09:15 PM

It was thier night in Chicago
converting all those 3rd downs
payback/even out -was Miami

FAX · 08-23-2008, 09:15 PM

All I know is what Lenny tells me.

He was bitching about the receivers tonight. To his eyes, it looked as though they could not get open at all and, apparently, the Fins were playing man-to-man for the most part. That's not good.

Lenny also said that Croyle was the victim of a couple of drops, as well. It was as though we couldn't get any momentum or rhythm going at all tonight. Sad.

FAX

08-23-2008, 09:04 PM
Frankie Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	Before the avalanch of "Croyle Sux" threads come, consider this: I am one who is still on Brodie Croyle's bandwagon. With that out of the way, I have to admit he looked like crap in the first half. But let's look at the possible reasons. I am not totally dismissing that he may not be very good after all, but I think there were factors contributing to his performance tonight: (A)- Our still learning O-line was facing a 3-4 'D' for the first time. We had all heard that Niswanger's height might give him trouble when he is lined up directly against a nose. Also the difference in blocking assignments was giving our inexperienced O-line problems. All this combined, was depriving Croyle of any reasonable protection. Not having time to scan the field and with his lack of experience, he was locking on his primary receivers and hampering his chances for effective pass plays. With the adjustments in the 2nd half, and the roll-outs we saw a better representation of Croyle's potential. That is reason number one for me to stay on his bandwagon. (B)- Reason number two is the fact that we all knew he would have up and down games this year. This was a down game for him. Live with it. I, like many a Chiefs fan, have made a promise to myself to consider that factor this year. But unlike many of you, I didn't intend that promise to be just lip service.
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08-23-2008, 09:06 PM	#2
milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	That's all very good, but the fact is, other than that first drive of the preseason, Croyle really hasn't given anyone much to grasp onto. __________________
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08-23-2008, 09:07 PM	#3
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Mr. Arrowhead MVP Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wichita Casino cash: $10015708	The chiefs are so cursed, that i almost believe that Croyle will suck this year, we will release him, we will draft a QB in the first round, who will be a bust, while Brodie is a Super Bowl Winning QB.
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08-23-2008, 09:11 PM	#6
JuicesFlowing Losing with passion. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oblivion Casino cash: $10004925	I agree. The plethora of Croyle crushing was hilarious tonight. The Chiefs do not have the O-line of say, the Colts or Pats ... And Croyle is not experienced either. Yeah, he made a lot of bad throws, but instead of immediately blaming him I try to factor in everything else. Bad pass protection, receivers not getting open, dropped passes. I'm surprised there isn't a "Carl Peterson lost us this game" thread .... know what i mean?
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08-23-2008, 09:12 PM	#7
KCUnited Cheat Death Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Land of Drincoln Casino cash: $2318244	Croyle looked like shit tonight, he'd tell you himself.
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08-23-2008, 09:15 PM	#14
blueballs Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	It was thier night in Chicago converting all those 3rd downs payback/even out -was Miami
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FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	All I know is what Lenny tells me. He was bitching about the receivers tonight. To his eyes, it looked as though they could not get open at all and, apparently, the Fins were playing man-to-man for the most part. That's not good. Lenny also said that Croyle was the victim of a couple of drops, as well. It was as though we couldn't get any momentum or rhythm going at all tonight. Sad. FAX
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