Football Orakpo - 4 sacks on the day, 12 on the year

B_Ambuehl · 12-14-2009, 11:44 AM

Told you he was no Gholston.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...1&postcount=11

Yall think Pioli would like to go back and do that pick #3 pick over?

In comparison, Tyson Jackson is currently grading out as the worst 5 technique in the national football league:

http://profootballfocus.com/by_posit...=25&numgames=1

**The Franchise** · 12-14-2009, 11:46 AM

So you started a thread to show that you were right about a draft pick?

Congrats on that.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-14-2009, 11:46 AM

Having a dominant DT sure doesn't hurt.

Sorry, but just because he was the right pick for Washington doesn't mean he would have been the right pick here.

But yeah, I'd like to have that pick back.

Hook 'Em Horns12 · 12-14-2009, 11:47 AM

Its killing me. i really wanted this guy to be drafted by us

Mr. Laz · 12-14-2009, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

Told you he was no Gholston.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...1&postcount=11

Yall think Pioli would like to go back and do that pick #3 pick over?

In comparison, Tyson Jackson is currently grading out as the worst 5 technique in the national football league:

http://profootballfocus.com/by_posit...=25&numgames=1

you're no mecca ... that's for sure.

**doomy3** · 12-14-2009, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Having a dominant DT sure doesn't hurt.

Sorry, but just because he was the right pick for Washington doesn't mean he would have been the right pick here.

But yeah, I'd like to have that pick back.

What dominant DT? Haynesworth? He hasn't been playing, and was inactive yesterday.

**The Franchise** · 12-14-2009, 11:49 AM

Oh....and for what it's worth......if we didn't trade for Cassel....we could have ended up with this.

1st - Mark Sanchez, QB
2nd - Ron Brace, NT
3rd - Alex Magee, DE

B_Ambuehl · 12-14-2009, 11:50 AM

Quote:

So you started a thread to show that you were right about a draft pick?

More to put another nail in the coffin of the supposed elite talent evaluation capabilities of Scott Pioli. But, iirc Orakpo got slammed by virtually everyone on this forum but me.

Hook 'Em Horns12 · 12-14-2009, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

More to put another nail in the coffin of the supposed elite talent evaluation capabilities of Scott Pioli. But, iirc Orakpo got slammed by virtually everyone on this forum but me.

he was my mock pick

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 12-14-2009, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Oh....and for what it's worth......if we didn't trade for Cassel....we could have ended up with this.

1st - Mark Sanchez, QB
2nd - Ron Brace, NT
3rd - Alex Magee, DE

So gross.............

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-14-2009, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3

What dominant DT? Haynesworth? He hasn't been playing, and was inactive yesterday.

Wow.

He's missed what, 3 games?

Sure, he's had no impact on Orakpo's play this year, nor have the other talented players he's surrounded by.

Kid plays for the 7th best defense statistically in the NFL.

If you want to think he'd be playing lights out surrounded by our abortion of a defense, in a different scheme, go right ahead.

**doomy3** · 12-14-2009, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Wow.

He's missed what, 3 games?

Sure, he's had no impact on Orakpo's play this year, nor have the other talented players he's surrounded by.

Kid plays for the 7th best defense statistically in the NFL.

If you want to think he'd be playing lights out surrounded by our abortion of a defense, in a different scheme, go right ahead.

He had a third of his sacks yesterday on a day that Haynesworth didn't even suit up. I'm not into making sweeping generalizations and didn't say he would be having the same kind of season. I am simply pointing out that your original post in this thread about Haynesworth having a large impact on his play this year is rather shortsighted.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-14-2009, 11:54 AM

Far worse to have been me. I originally loved Orakpo as a prospect, started a 500+ post thread about him, and then let the UT stigma and other people talk me out of him.

Stupid, stupid me.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-14-2009, 12:04 PM

"Washington is a good fit for Orakpo. He's much better with his hand in the dirt, IMO."

"FWIW, Orakpo has shown a combination of production and athleticism that will make him a top three pick in this draft."

"Orakpo is a playmaker. Taylor Mays is a playmaker. Maualuga is a playmaker. Options 2 and 3 don't have top 5 value, but I believe Orakpo does. Beanie Wells will be a Larry Johnson type back (I wouldn't take him, though). And there are 3-4 franchise LTs in this draft."

If we keep playing like this, we won't be in a position to draft Stafford. It's not good or bad, it is what it is."

"With that being said, a genetic freak like Rak daddy would go a long way towards fixing the ills of this defense. He's not as long as Michael Johnson, but he's fast, explosive, and incredibly strong. Plus, he's taken boxing lessons, so Krumrie will love him with his ****tard slap-fight drill.

There could be worse selections in the 3-7 range where we will most likely choose.

"And scenario 2:

If Stafford isn't there, you pick Orakpo. Mecca will probably want Johnson, and we'll fight to the death over it. Now, if we somehow finish 3-13 and end up drafting 6th, I'll probably kill myself."

keg in kc · 12-14-2009, 12:05 PM

Blind squirrels and nuts.

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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8019572	"Washington is a good fit for Orakpo. He's much better with his hand in the dirt, IMO." "FWIW, Orakpo has shown a combination of production and athleticism that will make him a top three pick in this draft." "Orakpo is a playmaker. Taylor Mays is a playmaker. Maualuga is a playmaker. Options 2 and 3 don't have top 5 value, but I believe Orakpo does. Beanie Wells will be a Larry Johnson type back (I wouldn't take him, though). And there are 3-4 franchise LTs in this draft." If we keep playing like this, we won't be in a position to draft Stafford. It's not good or bad, it is what it is." "With that being said, a genetic freak like Rak daddy would go a long way towards fixing the ills of this defense. He's not as long as Michael Johnson, but he's fast, explosive, and incredibly strong. Plus, he's taken boxing lessons, so Krumrie will love him with his ****tard slap-fight drill. There could be worse selections in the 3-7 range where we will most likely choose. "And scenario 2: If Stafford isn't there, you pick Orakpo. Mecca will probably want Johnson, and we'll fight to the death over it. Now, if we somehow finish 3-13 and end up drafting 6th, I'll probably kill myself." __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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