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View Poll Results: Will you be less critical of the regular refs than in past years?
Yep - their job is obviously tougher than it looks 8 8.51%
Meh - I'll probably be about as critical as usual 67 71.28%
Nope - I'll be even more critical - the replacements weren't THAT bad 18 19.15%
Gaz 1 1.06%
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:33 PM  
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Ref lockout is over. Will you be less critical?

Title is pretty self-explanatory. Now that we've seen how bad it COULD be, will fans as a whole cut the real refs a little more slack than we have in past years? Or will we bitch and complain and call for the replacement refs to come back?
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Old 09-27-2012, 01:59 AM   #31
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I picked the first one, but I haven't ever been critical. NFL refs do a pretty good job, all things considered - anyone who needs convincing of that just needs to watch a World Cup soccer match or two for comparison.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:05 AM   #32
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Yea but think about it, that play had to be reviewed by the real review teams and was let thru as well
Which is one of they very strange things about that whole deal. The retired NFL ref guru in the broadcast booth that night (Austin?) said that the review guys could not review possession. This, of course, is very misleading since they review every scoring play, each of which involves possession.

However, in the statement released by the NFL the following day, they revealed that the review dudes could, in fact, review possession in that situation.

So, it's possible that the review dudes did not know what the hell to do and simply said, "Inconclusive" and sent it back to the field. Of course, if the field officials had called touchback, they would probably have done the same thing.

I'm not sure you could write a script that contained as many screw ups in one play as that one. And to top it all off, the offensive PI wasn't even in the conversation. Muff Boudain couldn't have done a worse job.

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Old 09-27-2012, 02:06 AM   #33
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The one where the Saints player fell as he caught it, got up and scored.

They called it a TD on the field, but reviewed it and overturned it.

They got it wrong.
I must have missed that one. So you're saying that it shouldn't have been overturned? Was the player touched down?

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Old 09-27-2012, 02:06 AM   #34
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:12 AM   #35
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So you're saying that it shouldn't have been overturned?

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Correct. It was a TD. The ball didn't touch the ground. If it did, you couldn't see it.

I can't find video of it.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:13 AM   #36
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Correct. It was a TD. The ball didn't touch the ground. If it did, you couldn't see it.

I can't find video of it.
No problem. My CD should be here any day so I can get caught up.

Thanks for the information, though.

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Old 09-27-2012, 04:40 AM   #37
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I kinda wish this had dragged out longer, as I revel in the chaos. It definitely wasn't a good product to watch, but I'm used to watching a garbage product on Sundays already, what's a little more incompetence going to hurt?

I thought the MNF thing was pretty funny.. during the review one of them was probably like probably like "look... do you want to leave this stadium getting your dick sucked and going to get lapdances and eat a nice complimentary steak, or getting beer and piss and garbage thrown at you? easy call. Touchdown."

It probably does take a lot of moxy to be out there trying to control that game of huge egos under time restraints in a stadium full of people screaming. It always baffles me how people can blow obvious calls, it must be some kind of blinding pressure you have to experience first hand. The stage was too big for some it seemed, others didn't do that bad IMO. The real officials back will be good for the Chiefs' draft position though.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:29 AM   #38
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I must have missed that one. So you're saying that it shouldn't have been overturned? Was the player touched down?

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Correct. It was a TD. The ball didn't touch the ground. If it did, you couldn't see it.

I can't find video of it.
Pierre Thomas as I recall,I looked as well and found nothing.
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:00 AM   #39
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They wanted a large increase in compensation. I think we should expect their performance to be better than ever.
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:08 AM   #40
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Nope. Next time Ed H. throws a game, I'll be all over him. I'll find it funny when the excuses flow freely for missed holds, and every other missed call that we seem to have forgotten then folks make. The replacements didn't get a break, and these guys will get plenty of them. Just watch, tonight we'll be hearing them offered excuses for them being rusty... Sure! These guys should be allowed to get away with the same number mistakes as the replacments got - zero... But alas, there's little justice in this world!
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:10 AM   #41
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No. Frankly I prefer suck to on the take. I'm sure the "right" teams will be getting all the breaks now. As usual.
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:11 AM   #42
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I think the regular refs are going to get highlighted when they miss calls this weekend as well. They're going to be rusty.
Exactly! They didn't have the benefit of the preseason to get back into the swing of things, so it could be rough for a few weeks, and then back to the standard level of ineptitude.
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:14 AM   #43
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:47 AM   #45
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I just wish they'd call a consistent game. Nothing pisses me off more than seeing Tamba manhandled on a play with no call, then on the other side of the ball a big gainer is brought back due to a ticky tack call totally not having anything to do with the play.
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