Arizona posturing for de facto seccession

[Taco John]

File this under "nullification isn't as dead as some would like you to believe it is."


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Arizona to secede (without OFFICIALLY doing so)

Members of the state Legislature, including Arizona's de facto governor, Senate President Russell Pearce, have introduced a bill that essentially would have Arizona secede from the union without having to do so officially.

Really.

It's called SB1433, (See it here.) It creates a 12-member committee within the legislature that could "vote by simple majority to nullify in its entirety a specific federal law or regulation that is outside the scope of the powers delegated by the people to the federal government…"

Committee members themselves would decide this, then pass along their recommendation to the full Legislature. If, in turn, a majority of state lawmakers go along with the committee then, according to the bill, "this state and its citizens shall not recognize or be obligated to live under the statute, mandate or executive order."

The nullification committee also would be permitted to review all existing federal laws to see if our legislative geniuses want to toss them out as well.

In every legislative session in every state throughout the land there are proposals like this, usually made by a few fringe members who know their proposal has no chance but file it anyway to serve some personal or political agenda.

In this instance, legislators here -- who claim to be strict constitutionalists -- seem fairly willing to ignore what is commonly called the "supremacy clause" of the U.S. Constitution (as well as the Fourteenth Amendment), and which more or less say that federal law supersedes state law.

A state or a person can challenge such laws in court. But a state can't on its own simply declare a federal law to be unconsitutional.

Legislators who propose such things often are quietly patted on the heads and laughed off by their colleagues.

In our case, however, the legislation is being proposed by, among others, Sen. Pearce, the most powerful person in state government.

So, as wacky as the proposal is, that makes it much less of a laughing matter.

Wednesday, February 2, 2011 at 11:57 AM

[Comrade Crapski]

Originally Posted by Brock

Yeah, sure. Being called ignorant by a koo koo bird like yourself is really meaningful. Have fun dodging those predator drones, dumbbell.

Okey dokey, Brick.

[La literatura]

Originally Posted by Tom.Jay61

We're going to have an economic collapse. You do know that, right?

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by Tom.Jay61

I predict sometime between now and 2016.

The governmment is coming for the guns. They have to. Because after they succeed at bankrupting the nation and debasing the currency, there is going to be alot of pissed off people.

lol

[Comrade Crapski]

Originally Posted by Literature

Did you ever find out what happend to your "girlfriend"?

http://www.dallasvoice.com/fbi-invol...n-1068171.html

Emmit Till indeed.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Tom.Jay61

The very first firefight between government agents and American private citizens will be the ignition point of an all consuming maelstrom that will inundate the nation and render null and void any chance that America might reconstitute itself into its former image afterwards.

maelstrom
Holy shit. Have to admit, I do not like the sound of that.

[Predarat]

You must secede to succeed.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by bowener

Well, technically America would only have 1 revolution under its belt, right?

Yes. At last count it was one revolution and one crushed rebellion.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Tom.Jay61

Because the argument was made that Branch Davidians were criminals. And they did shoot at an FBI agent.

But suppose the 2nd Amendment is outlawed, the federales will have to enforce it. They are going to go door to door, confiscating weapons.

Inevitably they are going to meet armed resistance.

You are completely whacked. Seriously. You think the feds are going to go door to door after the 2nd amendment is "outlawed"? Do you even understand what complete nonsense that is?

Never mind, actually, you clearly don't. Enjoy building your bunker. Stay there.

[Comrade Crapski]

Originally Posted by The Mad Crapper

"Two men went up into the temple to pray;
one was Jenson71, and the other was The Mad Crapper.
Jenson71 stood and prayed to himself like this:

‘God, I thank you, that I am not like the rest of men, extortioners, unrighteous, adulterers, or even like The Mad Crapper.
I fast twice a week. I give tithes of all that I get.’
But The Mad Crapper, standing far away, wouldn’t even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying,

‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’

I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted."

Ha ha! I forgot all about that, that was awesome.

[Comrade Crapski]

Originally Posted by Jenson71

No, I do not work. I provide for myself through summer employment and loans.

[La literatura]

These are the days.

[Garcia Bronco]

Whoaa Lol...relax people. Step back from the ledge. There is no law that says you have to jump. Be vocal, but be constructive. Its hard. We all fail, but you can do it.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

maelstrom
Holy shit. Have to admit, I do not like the sound of that.

I's a good word. Maelstrom. Maelstrom. Maelstrom. Maelstrom. Maelstrom. I like the sound if it. Maelstrom. If you say it enough times it starts to sound kind of funny. Maelstrom. Maelstrom. Maelstrom. Now it's starting to sound funny in my head when I read it, a sort of semantic...inhibition, refractory phase and mental fatigue, maelstrom, lapse of meaning, maelstrom, work decrement, cortical inhibition, maelstrom, adaptation, extinction, satiation, reactive inhibition, stimulus satiation, reminiscence, maelstrom, verbal satiation, and verbal transformation. Maelstrom. Maelstrom.