Chiefs Luke Joeckel may pique Chiefs’ interest at No. 1 overall - Page 15

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-08-2013, 07:59 PM

http://nfl.si.com/2013/01/08/luke-jo...-no-1-overall/

For as long as Luke Joeckel remains on the draft board in April, he’s likely to be seriously considered by whichever team happens to be on the clock.

The Chiefs, by virtue of holding the No. 1 overall pick, will have first crack at the standout Texas A&M offensive tackle. Joeckel finalized his plan Tuesday to enter the 2013 NFL Draft, according to multiple reports.

The 6-foot-6 Joeckel played a key role in Johnny Manziel’s sudden takeover of college football this season. Despite playing against elite SEC talent, week in and week out, Joeckel turned in a dominant 2012 and is considered to be, for now, the top available offensive lineman for the coming draft.

How strongly Kansas City leans toward Joeckel depends on a number of factors, not the least of which being Branden Albert’s pending free agency.

The Chiefs face the usual options with Albert set to hit the market: re-sign him, let him walk or slap the franchise tag on him. That third choice would cost the Chiefs just shy of $10 million, but it’s hard to see them allowing their starting left tackle to walk.

The variable that could push them toward that money-saving decision is Joeckel. If the Chiefs convince themselves in the coming couple of weeks that Joeckel is capable of filling Albert’s shoes, that swap may make sense for new head coach Andy Reid. Kansas City also might be intrigued by the prospect of Joeckel at left tackle and Albert at guard — the Chiefs need to address their interior line, too, now that guard Ryan Lilja has decided to retire.

Unfortunately for Reid and the Chiefs, the top of this year’s draft class does not have an obvious No. 1 pick — unlike the 2012 draft, where the Colts had their choice between Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. Given Kansas City’s obvious needs (quarterback, receiver and linebacker, for starters), that lack of a clear superstar has to be even more frustrating.

Which is why Joeckel has a shot to go No. 1, should Albert hit free agency and a huge K.C. roster hole suddenly meshes with the available draft talent.

Even if Joeckel slides past the Chiefs, though, he will find no shortage of teams interested in his talent — so much so, in a few cases, that the rest of the top 5 (Jacksonville, Oakland, Philadelphia and Detroit) might be able to swing a draft-day trade contingent on Joeckel’s availability.

But any of that quartet also could make a case for Joeckel early. Both the Jaguars and Raiders had huge issues at right tackle; the Eagles struggled all over their line (save for Evan Mathis), and are still awaiting Jason Peters’ return from an Achilles injury; and the Lions might be shorthanded, even with 2012 first-rounder Riley Reiff in tow, if Jeff Backus retires and Gosder Cherilus leaves in free agency.

All those teams will have to wait to see what the Chiefs do as a 2013 draft opener. Given Joeckel’s potential as an NFL lineman and the lack of elite prospects, a match could be made at No. 1 overall.

Frankie · 01-09-2013, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

That's like trading sex with Natalie Portman for a bologna sandwich, simply because you'd rather have sex with Mila Kunis than Natalie Portman.

Mila doesn't do it for me. She's all hype.

**Rausch** · 01-09-2013, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Mila doesn't do it for me. She's all hype.

You have a bad habbit of trading for bologna.

And you don't even eat pork...

**the Talking Can** · 01-09-2013, 12:38 PM

why are the fans of a multi-decade loser franchise obsessed with 'value' instead of being obsessed with getting the best QB in the draft?

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-09-2013, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie

Mila doesn't do it for me. She's all hype.

You know how I know you're gay?

You won't hit this.

Frankie · 01-09-2013, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

If a QB is worth taking at 5 to 7, then he's worth taking at #1.

You don't take the #1 LT ahead of him.
You don't take the #1 pass rusher ahead of him.
You don't take the #1 CB ahead of him.

And you sure as hell don't take the #1 MLB/ILB ahead of him.

If he's the #1 QB, and you have him rated as the #5, 6, 7 rated prospect, you take him at #1, because the value of QB is so much greater than any position in team sports.

The Dolphins should be kicking themselves in the balls every day for selecting Jake Long ahead of Matt Ryan.

And the Patriot way, since the guys that Pete Carroll drafted have aged and moved on, has netted them exactly 0 SB wins.

I said "I could live with it." Even there (based on current data, mind you) I'd consider it a desperation pick. just much less so than at 1.

Also, if you were comfortable that Geno would still be on the board at 5 would you not switch positions with the team at 5 if you could get at least their 2nd rdp plus more?

Frankie · 01-09-2013, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave

You know how I know you're gay?

You won't hit this.

She's wide at the waist. This angle doesn't show that.

silver5liter · 01-09-2013, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

She's wide at the waist. This angle doesn't show that.

You're crazy

**Rausch** · 01-09-2013, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave

You know how I know you're gay?

You won't hit this.

She's short (I'm not a fan of teh long legs. I like 'em short and perky.)

I'd hurt that.

I'd mate like an alpha Ape...

ModSocks · 01-09-2013, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave

You know how I know you're gay?

You won't hit this.

Excuse me while i go Fap......

ModSocks · 01-09-2013, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR

That's like trading sex with Natalie Portman for a bologna sandwich, simply because you'd rather have sex with Mila Kunis than Natalie Portman.

Change that bologna sammich into a Bacon cheeseburger and we got a deal.

**Rausch** · 01-09-2013, 12:47 PM

...erp. What I mean is there is not enough evidence.

Need more pics...

Cannibal · 01-09-2013, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

You mean similar to letting Brandon Carr go, then signing Stanford Routt, and then cutting him?

Yeah, but much, much worse.

milkman · 01-09-2013, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie

I said "I could live with it." Even there (based on current data, mind you) I'd consider it a desperation pick. just much less so than at 1.

Also, if you were comfortable that Geno would still be on the board at 5 would you not switch positions with the team at 5 if you could get at least their 2nd rdp plus more?

No, I would not be comfortable moving down to 5.

Even if I know with absolute certainty that the team I'm trading with is not taking Smith, the teams at 2,3 and 4 could well take him, or trade out to a team that will.

The #1 QB prospect is more valuable than the #1 prospect at every other position.

I don't give a rat's ass if he's the 15th rated overall player on teh board.

I am taking the QB that I consider the best prospect, and **** every other option.

Anyone that doesn't is a ****ing moron.

**Rausch** · 01-09-2013, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR

That's not a red flag. That's a straight-up black ball.

Do NOT draft this douche.

I don't care about a tat.

I care about the attitude that led to the tat. I care that he's full pimped on him-having-some-him.

Perhaps the 2nd or 3rd most talented guy in the draft - but a total washout...

**RealSNR** · 01-09-2013, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie

She's wide at the waist. This angle doesn't show that.

Ah. Too fat for you. That's cool. I respect the Omaha camp.

01-08-2013, 07:59 PM
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	Luke Joeckel may pique Chiefs’ interest at No. 1 overall http://nfl.si.com/2013/01/08/luke-jo...-no-1-overall/ For as long as Luke Joeckel remains on the draft board in April, he’s likely to be seriously considered by whichever team happens to be on the clock. The Chiefs, by virtue of holding the No. 1 overall pick, will have first crack at the standout Texas A&M offensive tackle. Joeckel finalized his plan Tuesday to enter the 2013 NFL Draft, according to multiple reports. The 6-foot-6 Joeckel played a key role in Johnny Manziel’s sudden takeover of college football this season. Despite playing against elite SEC talent, week in and week out, Joeckel turned in a dominant 2012 and is considered to be, for now, the top available offensive lineman for the coming draft. How strongly Kansas City leans toward Joeckel depends on a number of factors, not the least of which being Branden Albert’s pending free agency. The Chiefs face the usual options with Albert set to hit the market: re-sign him, let him walk or slap the franchise tag on him. That third choice would cost the Chiefs just shy of $10 million, but it’s hard to see them allowing their starting left tackle to walk. The variable that could push them toward that money-saving decision is Joeckel. If the Chiefs convince themselves in the coming couple of weeks that Joeckel is capable of filling Albert’s shoes, that swap may make sense for new head coach Andy Reid. Kansas City also might be intrigued by the prospect of Joeckel at left tackle and Albert at guard — the Chiefs need to address their interior line, too, now that guard Ryan Lilja has decided to retire. Unfortunately for Reid and the Chiefs, the top of this year’s draft class does not have an obvious No. 1 pick — unlike the 2012 draft, where the Colts had their choice between Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. Given Kansas City’s obvious needs (quarterback, receiver and linebacker, for starters), that lack of a clear superstar has to be even more frustrating. Which is why Joeckel has a shot to go No. 1, should Albert hit free agency and a huge K.C. roster hole suddenly meshes with the available draft talent. Even if Joeckel slides past the Chiefs, though, he will find no shortage of teams interested in his talent — so much so, in a few cases, that the rest of the top 5 (Jacksonville, Oakland, Philadelphia and Detroit) might be able to swing a draft-day trade contingent on Joeckel’s availability. But any of that quartet also could make a case for Joeckel early. Both the Jaguars and Raiders had huge issues at right tackle; the Eagles struggled all over their line (save for Evan Mathis), and are still awaiting Jason Peters’ return from an Achilles injury; and the Lions might be shorthanded, even with 2012 first-rounder Riley Reiff in tow, if Jeff Backus retires and Gosder Cherilus leaves in free agency. All those teams will have to wait to see what the Chiefs do as a 2013 draft opener. Given Joeckel’s potential as an NFL lineman and the lack of elite prospects, a match could be made at No. 1 overall.
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