AFCW: Week 11

[Mile High Mania]

I feel like I'm having that moment in 'The Jerk' when Navin R. Johnson realizes the phone books just arrived. "It's here - It's here... Chiefs @ Broncos, sounds like your typical assholes are coming to town."

Anyway, this is what everyone around here has been clamoring about for months now, the only blemish is that it's 8-1 vs 9-0, but sole possession of first place is on the line here, and there's absolutely no lack for drama.

As I type this, the Manningverse is all lit up about the MRI that will be performed today and while it's definitely a concern, I don't see this being a case where he's missing the game. If that were to happen, then all bets are off as the 6'7 Sasquatch would see his first action... but again, that ain't happening.

Through 10 weeks, we have the following:

Chiefs 9-0
Broncos 8-1
Chargers 4-5
Raiders 3-6

Three games that matter, but really only one of any real importance as it relates to the race for the Division crown.

Raiders @ Texans
Neither team is really any good right now, but both have the potential to win this game. I'm keeping it easy here and sticking with the home team. Houston has better playmakers across the board, IMO. And, I like what Keenum has been doing. The Raiders look ... well, like the Raiders. I think it could be a fun game to watch, possibly, but the Texans win this one by 10.

Texans 27 / Raiders 17

Chargers @ Dolphins
As I type this, the Dolphins are in all kinds of disarray and preparing to battle the Bucs on MNF. So, no clue as to whether or not they're rolling into this game with a win or a loss.

Either way, I don't think it will matter as I believe the Chargers when this "battle of the coastal teams". San Diego has talent and they can put up points, but their defense is rather lame. I think this could be a good game, but the Chargers win this one after a big letdown at home vs the Broncos. Chargers fans will be teased into another few weeks of "maybe we can get a WC spot" before ultimately being disappointed after their team loses 4 of their final 6 games at the hands of Denver, KC (twice) and the Bengals.

Chargers 30 / Dolphins 17

Broncos vs Chiefs

There's not much more that can be said that isn't already being hotly debated on 72 other threads regarding this epic matchup. The Chiefs stroll into Denver with a perfect 9-0 record coming out of their bye week. The Chiefs are relatively healthy and determined to prove to everyone that they are without a doubt the best team in the land.

The Broncos slipped up against the Colts, and their defense has given up a fair amount of points and yards to every team they've played this season.

Every bit of success that Denver has is directly related to Manning - big shocker and with the ankle issues and the banged up Oline... there is cause for concern. The good news is that while the Chiefs have a nasty defense, their offense is fairly pedestrian.

I noted in another thread that if you were to compare Denver's production at home and KC's production on the road, it's not pretty for KC. In 4 road games, the Chiefs' offense has produced 5 TDs and 11 FGs, while the Defense and Special Teams has accounted for 5 other TDs. That's really good if you're a KC fan, but on the road in Denver... I think Smith and the passing game will have to become a bit more bold and productive, especially if Denver is successful in containing/limiting Charles.

I've thrown out a few random score predictions over the last week, but they all have one thing in common - I believe Denver wins this one by roughly 10 points. Yes, Manning is banged up - the Oline is banged up. The Chiefs defense is crazy nasty and will do all they can to hit Manning early, hard and often.

Can they be successful with this and can their offense put up 20+ points? I think Yes and No... it should be a fun game.

Broncos 34 / Chiefs 23

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Von Dumbass

You guys are really bitter about Manning not going to KC aren't you? I don't have any hate for the Chiefs, so your hatred for Denver is kind of hard for me to understand.

Has a lot more to do with horseface thinking he can BUY a Superbowl.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I realize that conventional wisdom says that since no team has scored more than 17 points vs the Chiefs, that it's impossible to imagine it happening this week in Denver... but, why? Simply because it hasn't happened yet?

I mean... 7 of the 9 offenses that KC has faced rank 19th or lower in points scored this season. The rankings are 19, 24, 26, 27, 29, 30 and 32. The Cowboys (4th) played horrible @ KC and I said then that's not a shock, look what they did last night @ NOS. Dallas is miserable on the road. PHI... well, they're ranked 11th in offense, nothing too magical there though.

So, again - aside from KC holding 7 of the 13th worst offenses in the league to under 17 points a game, why is it absurd to think Denver will do better in Denver?

I think they Will do better.

You're talking about doubling that.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Has a lot more to do with horseface thinking he can BUY a Superbowl.

99% of you guys wanted him to sign Manning, and the other 1% were just tempering their expectations in case Manning went elsewhere. Why hate a team for doing the same thing you would've done if given the opportunity?

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Von Dumbass

They said they did it because your lineman held them, and it really didn't seem to affect the game at all.

Don't understand our hate for Denver?

Didn't affect the game?

And how old were you that year? 4?

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Don't understand our hate for Denver?

Didn't affect the game?

And how old were you that year? 4?

It didn't. We gained two yards on two plays before they were wiped down.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Von Dumbass

99% of you guys wanted him to sign Manning, and the other 1% were just tempering their expectations in case Manning went elsewhere. Why hate a team for doing the same thing you would've done if given the opportunity?

You think we hate Denver because of Manning?

God you are so ****ing stupid.

[Pablo]

KnowMo is such a supreme trolling piece of ****.

Guy just keeps rolling out bullshit without fail.

And he's not even a genuine fan. He just admitted he has no hate for a division rival.

Supreme troll, though.

[Quesadilla Joe]

I've never had a reason to hate the Chiefs. We've been the class of the AFCW my entire life. There were a couple bad years, but Denver has been the winningest team in the NFL the past 30 years.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Von Dumbass

It didn't. We gained two yards on two plays before they were wiped down.

Were they wiped down with mineral spirits?

[Chiefs=Champions]

Originally Posted by Von Dumbass

99% of you guys wanted him to sign Manning, and the other 1% were just tempering their expectations in case Manning went elsewhere. Why hate a team for doing the same thing you would've done if given the opportunity?

You clearly love the Chiefs. Why else would you bless us with your presence for 100 posts a day?

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Pablo

KnowMo is such a supreme trolling piece of ****.

Guy just keeps rolling out bullshit without fail.

And he's not even a genuine fan. He just admitted he has no hate for a division rival.

Supreme troll, though.

Nor does he even watch when they are bad.

[ThaVirus]

The AFC West has been a mixed bag since you were born 13 years ago, KnowMo. The Broncos haven't been the class of shit.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Von Dumbass

99% of you guys wanted him to sign Manning, and the other 1% were just tempering their expectations in case Manning went elsewhere. Why hate a team for doing the same thing you would've done if given the opportunity?

Despite the flat out hatred for Peypey around here, a lot of the hate for him is because he's a Donk and not the other way around.

IMO, for many, it's the fans.

[Chiefs=Champions]

[Breaker]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Bailey is washed up. Wolfe has been playing so has Woodward. Miller is a reerun and a cheater so don't involve him. There's no next level? That's false. You've won against these so called mediocre teams too. Stupid ****ing bronco trolls.

What exactly is your next level then? You defense has literally played as well as it possibly can, gotten every single break possible, that wont continue. What, your offense is going to suddenly become a top 5 offense, not real likely. Broncos are the best offense in the league, and we have had so many injuries
before that we have not even fielded our full defensive team as envisioned at the beginning of the year, not a single game. We actually will get better as our guys start playing more its a fact that since Miller came back we have gotten far better in TFL, Pressure, TO, Sacks, points allowed, yards allowed. We are getting better and will have a top 10 defense by the end of the year, hell lets just look at the defensive stats right this second.

Metric Broncos Rank Chiefs Rank
Yards Allowed #21 #9
Yds P/game #23 #10
Passing (YPG) #30 # 6
Running Yds Allowed (YPG) #4 #24
Points Allowed #22 #1
Ints T for #1 T for #5
Forced Fumbles Tied # 24 (6) Tied #16 (8
Fumble Recoveries #22 (3) #1 (11)
Sacks #14 #1

Look inside the numbers for a change. Broncos have forced 2 fewer fumbles than the Chiefs, not significantly different, but have recovered 8 fewer. The reason is that KC has had 3 MUFFED PUNTS go for turnovers, which is incredibly lucky. Most teams are lucky to have one go their way during a season and recover them, much less three. Fumble recoveries are not a measure of any defensive skill, the ball bounces and someone jumps on it, its a 50/50 proposition unless the ball is in the defensive secondary. KC is recovering an absurd and unsustainable 73% of the fumbles, that is not even close to the average.

Now lets look at games lost to injury/suspension and see if that might have an impact on the stats:

Denver Games Lost Chiefs Games Lost

Wolfe 0 Jackson 0
Ayers 1 DeVito 0
Knighton 0 Poe 0
Vickerson 0 Johnson 0
Woodyard 2 Jordan 0
Trevathan 2 Hali 0
Miller 6 Huston 0
Bailey 7 Flowers 2
DRC 0 Smith 0
Moore 0 Lewis 0
Ihenacho 1 Berry 0

Total 19 2

Once again we see how lucky the Chiefs are. Losing 2 man games all season as opposed to 19 for the Broncos. You line up the two teams side by side with all starters playing for each, Broncos improve in ever y single category and are most likely top 10 in each one. Thus my comment, Chiefs have done as well as they can and they wont improve because your offense sucks. Broncos defense will get MUCH better where as the Chiefs have done all that they can, and they will probably get worse as the incredibly lucky streak they are currently on balances out over the course of the season.

Chiefs will go 12-4 losing to Denver, San Diego, Denver, Colts
Broncos will go 14-2 losing to New England.

I look at facts and stats, Chiefs fans don't.

Game.Set.Match