Cardinals ***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread - Page 161

**BigRedChief** · 08:16 PM

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.

Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.

The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.

Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:

* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.

The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.

The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.

The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.

The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.

The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
— Bernie

Jewish Rabbi · 06-25-2013, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod

That's okay. After this past weekend, I'll take the three.

It'd be a miracle if we took 3 wins from this series.

**BigRedChief** · 06-25-2013, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

Lost in the offensive outburst is the fact that Westbrook is throwing a pretty good game thru 5, if you know what I'm saying...

And is gives up 4 runs after this post. Jinx or not?

Jewish Rabbi · 06-25-2013, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

And is gives up 4 runs after this post. Jinx or not?

What?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-25-2013, 10:23 PM

Needed that.

O.city · 06-25-2013, 10:28 PM

Power surge. Need the bats to keep going though. And ffs, we need a CFer

Marcellus · 06-26-2013, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

It'd be a miracle if we took 3 wins from this series.

Quiet the miracle.

Pepe Silvia · 06-26-2013, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

It'd be a miracle if we took 3 wins from this series.

Its the Astros though.

**BigRedChief** · 06-26-2013, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerinMo

Its the Astros though.

Even playing the Astros, 3 wins is just not going to happen.

Pepe Silvia · 06-26-2013, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Even playing the Astros, 3 wins is just not going to happen.

True no game is a given but it wouldn't take a miracle to do it, thats my point.

O.city · 06-26-2013, 06:10 PM

Considering its a 2 game series it would take a miracle numb nuts

O.city · 06-26-2013, 06:16 PM

Off to a good start

Pepe Silvia · 06-26-2013, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

Considering its a 2 game series it would take a miracle numb nuts

Well I didn't know it was a 2 game series, frazod made an error. glad thats cleared up, yes that would take a miracle. I thought you guys were saying we couldn't beat the Astros, I was like wtf?

**BigRedChief** · 06-26-2013, 06:48 PM

Martinez continues to tear it up down in Memphis. 0 earned runs, 3 hits, 102 pitches in 7 2/3rds. Little Pedro needs to get the call up, not trade for another SP.

I know they are rumors but if true, why are we considering giving up cost controlled top shelf talent for a starter?

What am I missing here?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-26-2013, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Martinez continues to tear it up down in Memphis. 0 earned runs, 3 hits, 102 pitches in 7 2/3rds. Little Pedro needs to get the call up, not trade for another SP.

I know they are rumors but if true, why are we considering giving up cost controlled top shelf talent for a starter?

What am I missing here?

With Martinez, perhaps b/c they don't think his size is projectable over the long term.

With Wacha, perhaps they worry about his inability to control the curve and feel he is overrated as a prospect.

FWIW, we have to keep Martinez down for a few more weeks to avoid Super Two status, since he was up for a few weeks as well.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-26-2013, 07:00 PM

Craig with a Pujolsian shot, and Holliday continues to do nothing in the midst of an offensive explosion.

01-25-2013, 05:27 PM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3239627 VARSITY	*OFFICIAL* 2013 STL Cardinals Thread From Bernie's column: People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.” It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year. Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944. A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS. The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face. Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88. Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective: * Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90. * Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92). * The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa. The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160. The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati. The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium. The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA. The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball. The Cardinals really earned this. Thanks for reading ... — Bernie Last edited by BigRedChief; 10-02-2013 at 08:16 PM..
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2844064	Considering its a 2 game series it would take a miracle numb nuts
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BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3239627 VARSITY	Martinez continues to tear it up down in Memphis. 0 earned runs, 3 hits, 102 pitches in 7 2/3rds. Little Pedro needs to get the call up, not trade for another SP. I know they are rumors but if true, why are we considering giving up cost controlled top shelf talent for a starter? What am I missing here? __________________ Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. -YODA
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06-26-2013, 07:00 PM	#2415
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8019572	Craig with a Pujolsian shot, and Holliday continues to do nothing in the midst of an offensive explosion. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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