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Old 10-05-2012, 02:52 PM  
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:12 PM   #211
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Why are you even trying to defend the call at all? Seriously. Just stop. Everyone is fully aware that the infield fly rule can be called on the outfield grass.

Show me where its ever been called 50+ into the outfield with the infielder constantly back pedaling and still coming up 5 feet short of where the ball landed.
I guess you missed me saying it was an awful call?


Kozma was somewhat under it, waving his arms. It doesn't matter where he is. That's not the part that was ****ed up. The area doesn't matter, it's the timing and the overall call
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:13 PM   #212
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The call does make the gif in the OP that much better, though.
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:13 PM   #213
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The ball being in the outfield has nothing to do with the infield fly rule. It was an awful call, but an infield fly rule can occur outside of the infield
Not at that depth, its an ump that forgot where he was. Its a call that makes every misplay of a pop up, a protest. Guy loses ball in sun, should have been infield fly rule.
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:13 PM   #214
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I guess you missed me saying it was an awful call?


Kozma was somewhat under it, waving his arms. It doesn't matter where he is. That's not the part that was ****ed up. The area doesn't matter, it's the timing and the overall call
Everything you say about it being an awful call goes out the window when you say shit like this.

The infield fly rule was put in place to prevent a short pop up from being intentionally dropped and turned into a double/triple play.

That play was NEVER going to be more than 1 out.
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Not at that depth, its an ump that forgot where he was. Its a call that makes every misplay of a pop up, a protest. Guy loses ball in sun, should have been infield fly rule.
Where people are getting misunderstood, is the infield part. That's all I'm arguing.
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:15 PM   #217
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I guess you missed me saying it was an awful call?


Kozma was somewhat under it, waving his arms. It doesn't matter where he is. That's not the part that was ****ed up. The area doesn't matter, it's the timing and the overall call
the timing was the critical botch tonight. **** it - who cares? I always have Footb................ OhYEAH - NM
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:16 PM   #218
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I guess you missed me saying it was an awful call?


Kozma was somewhat under it, waving his arms. It doesn't matter where he is. That's not the part that was ****ed up. The area doesn't matter, it's the timing and the overall call
Rule states ump must call it immediately, did he?
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Ok jd, does he have to be on the infield for it to be ruled an infield fly rule?
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I didn't watch it but happened to be listening on the radio when it happened and the way the national audio broadcast described it they said the ump got the call right although they didn't agree with it. They said that the ump can call infield fly rule on plays like that because it didn't take "above average ability to make the play". Apparently there is a clause in the rule that specifically states this or so they said.
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Ok jd, does he have to be on the infield for it to be ruled an infield fly rule?
Where the ball dropped, is that the infield?
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Rule states ump must call it immediately, did he?
Where am I saying he didn't ? The timing and ruling that the player is in an area to make a routine play is where he ****ed up. The area he was in doesn't matter
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Ok jd, does he have to be on the infield for it to be ruled an infield fly rule?
No he doesn't... he can be in the outfield but he must be camped under the ball and the call must be made immediately. He was NEVER camped under the ball and the call WAS NOT immediate. There was NEVER any danger of a double play.

Even bringing up the fact that the call can be made on outfield grass is ignorant.
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Where the ball dropped, is that the infield?
No, it doesn't matter though.
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