Chiefs Time to Vote: Your Thoughts on the Decision to Fire Haley.

**Gonzo** · 12-15-2011, 09:39 AM

It's been a few days now and I was a little curious to see how you all feel regarding the Haley Firing earlier this week.

I've seen several posts on both sides of the fence over the last few days. Some were totally in favor of this move and some, not so much.

Until the debacle vs. the Jets last week, I was a supporter and I thought that Haley deserved one more season to try and right the ship. However, after seeing them play like buffoons and seeing Haley jumping around the sideline like a rabid chimpanzee, I changed my mind. The team was totally unprepared and it showed. It absolutely fell on the coach and I immediately thought he needed to go.

(I just didn't think it would happen so soon)

So what are your thoughts on this?

Poll Forthcoming

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Reerun_KC · 12-15-2011, 09:41 AM

At this point...

Its 50% Haley and 50% Failoili...

And right now looking forward? Its more of the same. I was hoping for a change in the franchise when we hired Pioli...

We are on the quest for 8-8 for a long long time.

**Baby Lee** · 12-15-2011, 09:46 AM

The guys played hard for him. There were 'flashes' of really good play every week. An awesome catch here, a great blitz there, even a occasional road grading in the run game. But sooooo many wins were against bad teams, and they never seemed ready to take on an elite motivated opponent, let alone a playoff game. And the blowouts were just too big and came too often.

I think he could be a great coach with elite personnel. But between the QB situation and the early season injuries, he didn't have enough of them this year.

That said, when it comes down to brass tacks, my estimation of him hinges largely on something presently unknown. If he was a prime mover in the pro-Cassel campaign, eff him forever.

Sure-Oz · 12-15-2011, 09:48 AM

I dont care anymore. the dumbass kept playing Palko, that was enough for me

BoneKrusher · 12-15-2011, 09:48 AM

insisting on starting Palko alone was enough for me.
the Firing was deserving.

Reerun_KC · 12-15-2011, 09:48 AM

As long as Pioli is the GM it wont make a difference who the HC is...

the more coming out between Haley and Pioli, the more we realize that the future really isnt that bright...

BoneKrusher · 12-15-2011, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

As long as Pioli is the GM it wont make a difference who the HC is...

the more coming out between Haley and Pioli, the more we realize that the future really isnt that bright...

Pioli needs to figure out the Patriot Way isn't legit w/o a QB.

Sofa King · 12-15-2011, 09:52 AM

The man lost his best players on his team before the season barely started... and he was strapped with an absolute turd of a QB.

This has been more Pioli's fault than Haley.

Brock · 12-15-2011, 09:53 AM

His whole approach to this season was screwed up. Too many blowout losses. The 2 minute drill screwups that became all too common. Alienating Bowe. Palko. There's no question he should have been fired, the sooner the better.

Chief Roundup · 12-15-2011, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

Pioli needs to figure out the Patriot Way isn't legit w/o a QB.

He does think he has the one. You know one that was successful for a year.

Chief Faithful · 12-15-2011, 09:55 AM

Many things I liked about Haley and I think he did a great job of changing the teams culture on conditioning for the better. But, any coach that thinks Palko is an acceptable backup needs to be fired. If he is even on the team next year I will begin to question the new coach and Pioli.

Chiefnj2 · 12-15-2011, 09:57 AM

Even if you think Haley was doing a good job and was a good coach, the fact that he and the GM apparently disliked each other and couldn't/wouldn't work together pretty much means he had to go. No point keeping two people acting like babies when it hurts the end product.

BoneKrusher · 12-15-2011, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

He does think he has the one. You know one that was successful for a year.

but that was a Mirage and he needs to face it.

Chief Faithful · 12-15-2011, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

I dont care anymore. the dumbass kept playing Palko, that was enough for me

How can any competent coach employ a QB that has no accuracy, touch or arm strength? Palko cannot hit a downfield sideline pattern if his life depended on it. All a defense has to do is go into goal line defense all day long.

Molitoth · 12-15-2011, 09:58 AM

I liked Haley and his fiery personality, but it's hard to know what he was really responsible for taking blame.

Was Haley calling the plays? If so, then he needed fired.
(Bill Muir still needs fired)

Was it Haley's preference to have Matt Cassel / Tyler Palko as his QB's going into the season? If so, then he needed fired.

Do the players hate playing for Haley? If so, then he needed fired.

Was Haley the genius who was running McCluster between the tackles? If so, then he needed fired.

Until the answers come out in official form, I don't know whether it was Haley or Pioli that needed gone.

View Poll Results: Haley's Firing... Whatcha think 'bout that?
I support the decision, it was time for him to go.	67	55.83%
Not so much, I think he needed another year.	31	25.83%
I think they should have waited until after the season and re-evaluated.	18	15.00%
Gaz flipped Haley the Bird while he was packing his shit.	4	3.33%
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12-15-2011, 09:39 AM
Gonzo Stuff & Things Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Yukon Casino cash: $10126924	Time to Vote: Your Thoughts on the Decision to Fire Haley. It's been a few days now and I was a little curious to see how you all feel regarding the Haley Firing earlier this week. I've seen several posts on both sides of the fence over the last few days. Some were totally in favor of this move and some, not so much. Until the debacle vs. the Jets last week, I was a supporter and I thought that Haley deserved one more season to try and right the ship. However, after seeing them play like buffoons and seeing Haley jumping around the sideline like a rabid chimpanzee, I changed my mind. The team was totally unprepared and it showed. It absolutely fell on the coach and I immediately thought he needed to go. (I just didn't think it would happen so soon) So what are your thoughts on this? Poll Forthcoming Edit: (Sorry if repost) Tags: Another Haley Thread SofaKing has Anal Warts Phobianalpencilmaster
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12-15-2011, 09:41 AM	#2
Reerun_KC Rock Chalk Jayhawks! KU!!! Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $8301160	At this point... Its 50% Haley and 50% Failoili... And right now looking forward? Its more of the same. I was hoping for a change in the franchise when we hired Pioli... We are on the quest for 8-8 for a long long time.
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12-15-2011, 09:46 AM	#3
Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $6838598	The guys played hard for him. There were 'flashes' of really good play every week. An awesome catch here, a great blitz there, even a occasional road grading in the run game. But sooooo many wins were against bad teams, and they never seemed ready to take on an elite motivated opponent, let alone a playoff game. And the blowouts were just too big and came too often. I think he could be a great coach with elite personnel. But between the QB situation and the early season injuries, he didn't have enough of them this year. That said, when it comes down to brass tacks, my estimation of him hinges largely on something presently unknown. If he was a prime mover in the pro-Cassel campaign, eff him forever. __________________ We need the kind of courage that can withstand the subtle corruption of the cynics - E.W.
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12-15-2011, 09:48 AM	#5
BoneKrusher That's Right Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Bluefield, Virginia Casino cash: $9976645	insisting on starting Palko alone was enough for me. the Firing was deserving. __________________ "MaHomes/MaAuto"
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12-15-2011, 09:52 AM	#8
Sofa King Hello Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Dakota Casino cash: $1102096 VARSITY	The man lost his best players on his team before the season barely started... and he was strapped with an absolute turd of a QB. This has been more Pioli's fault than Haley.
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12-15-2011, 09:53 AM	#9
Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	His whole approach to this season was screwed up. Too many blowout losses. The 2 minute drill screwups that became all too common. Alienating Bowe. Palko. There's no question he should have been fired, the sooner the better.
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12-15-2011, 09:55 AM	#11
Chief Faithful Predicting Chiefs Victory Join Date: Sep 2001 Casino cash: $9966500	Many things I liked about Haley and I think he did a great job of changing the teams culture on conditioning for the better. But, any coach that thinks Palko is an acceptable backup needs to be fired. If he is even on the team next year I will begin to question the new coach and Pioli.
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12-15-2011, 09:57 AM	#12
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7883688	Even if you think Haley was doing a good job and was a good coach, the fact that he and the GM apparently disliked each other and couldn't/wouldn't work together pretty much means he had to go. No point keeping two people acting like babies when it hurts the end product. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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12-15-2011, 09:58 AM	#15
Molitoth Mahomes Fanboi Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $2994969	I liked Haley and his fiery personality, but it's hard to know what he was really responsible for taking blame. Was Haley calling the plays? If so, then he needed fired. (Bill Muir still needs fired) Was it Haley's preference to have Matt Cassel / Tyler Palko as his QB's going into the season? If so, then he needed fired. Do the players hate playing for Haley? If so, then he needed fired. Was Haley the genius who was running McCluster between the tackles? If so, then he needed fired. Until the answers come out in official form, I don't know whether it was Haley or Pioli that needed gone.
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