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Old 01-15-2013, 02:42 PM  
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Four questions with Andy Reid ...


Not long before the end of the season, I wanted to ask Andy Reid whether he'd be interested in writing something around the time of the Super Bowl for Sports Illustrated. He said no -- even though in his youth he wanted to be a sportswriter. He thought he might be otherwise occupied. I'd felt he wouldn't take a year off from coaching up to that point, but then I knew if there was a job out there, he'd want it.

Q: So, since you've been named the Chiefs' coach, many people wonder: 'With everything you've been through -- your son Garrett's death by overdose, the turbulent year on and off the field you just went through -- why not take a year off to recharge and get your life back in order?

Reid: "Because I love what I do. Garrett loved what I did. It doesn't feel like work. I didn't want to sit home and not coach. What was I going to do? There was nothing I wanted to do as much as coach football. The thing with Garrett ... it was not very sudden; this was a long, long process. Unfortunately, [drug addiction] is so rampant in America, and people who have gone through it realize that you don't just -- as in my case -- lose a son; you lose a great friend. Now I'm able to bring my other son here. [Reid hired Britt Reid, who also had drug-addiction issues, to be a Chiefs quality-control coach.] Remember, he lost his best friend. But I am so proud of how far he's come. And it says something about him that the three coaches he worked for at Temple wanted him to come with them. The other side of this is working to move on like a man and handle what life throws at you. We're doing that.''

Q: Why the Chiefs? Why not, say, Arizona, or the other places you were linked to?

Reid: "The Hunt family is one of four or five bedrock families in the NFL that I always thought, 'If I'm ever released [by the Eagles], if one of those families calls, I'd listen.' The history here is so rich, the tradition is so rich, the fan base is so strong.''

Q: What's the one overriding thing you take from Philadelphia into this job?

Reid: "I learned to embrace a city in Philadelphia. They'll take you from boyhood to manhood, which they did with me, and that's okay. It's a results business. I got that. As far as the team goes, it's imperative that everybody's pulling in the same direction. That's the only way you can succeed."

Q: What's your take on the talent you inherit?

Reid: "Before I interviewed with the Chiefs, I looked at every snap from every [Kansas City] game this year. Special teams were average. The talent overall, it looked to me like they were transitioning from an older team to a younger one. And I thought, 'With a couple, three drafts, very good things can happen here."
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:56 PM   #181
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It looks like Poe is the homer favorite of choice this offseason.

He has not shown this potential whatsoever.

We're talking about a kid that had all of 9 QB hurries and 0 sacks last season so let's keep things in perspective.
Well, to be fair, the bar for Dlinemen picked in the top 11 in KC has been lowered by a slew of players.
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:57 PM   #182
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It's also ridiculous to say he has game changing potential.

Shit, so does/did Jon Baldwin.

I'll be happy with average NT play from him next year.
I was never high on Baldwin. I loved the Poe pick from the start.

Baldwin's issues are difficult to fix. He runs shitty routes (which are more difficult to coach than people want to pretend) and he has a shitty on-field work ethic to want to get better. He's not coachable.

Poe's problems have largely been technique and they are easily fixable, but they will take time. And unlike Baldwin, he has the work ethic to get better. And Poe has a rare physical talent at nose tackle, which is he could become a rare every down nose tackle, which is INCREDIBLY valuable in a league where spread offenses are exposing 1-dimensional nose tackles.
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:59 PM   #183
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It's also ridiculous to say he has game changing potential.

Shit, so does/did Jon Baldwin.

I'll be happy with average NT play from him next year.
That is the goal for DL in their second year in the NFL. Average play.

Third year is when they should shine.

Now, he will be learning completely new techniques again (going from 2gap to 1gap) hopefully that doesn't hold his development back...I LOVE the prospect of him playing a Jay Ratliff type role for us and think he could be the prototype for the position if the coaches find a way to translate talent into production.
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:59 PM   #184
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Jon got open a lot last year. We just didn't have a qb that could see more than a third of the field and get the ball to the open guy.

Geno showed that he is capable of attacking every section of the field equally and that means our second and third option will get action.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see Baldwin and Breaston both have 700 yards each and Bowe to get 1300.
Baldwin got open because nobody was paying attention to the deep route. Nobody cared. For his size, he's shitty at getting off jams. And he runs shitty routes. We had a QB that was spreading the ball well for a few games. Kyle Orton. Baldwin was a complete non-factor in those games.

Never liked the guy. Still don't like him. I think his only upside is that he becomes a good jump ball receiver. But I'd rather have a receiver who can run the entire route tree.
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:59 PM   #185
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so when JJ Watt got 20.5 sacks and All Pro in HIS 2nd YEAR....

that's just "average play" expectations huh
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:04 AM   #186
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so when JJ Watt got 20.5 sacks and All Pro in HIS 2nd YEAR....

that's just "average play" expectations huh
Don't be obtuse.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:05 AM   #187
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I see a team with nice pieces at the skill positions (Bowe, Charles, Breaston, Moeaki and Baldwin) a line that has the potential to blossom if we get a qb that gets the ball out in time and doesn't go down at the sight of a pass rusher.

We have a defense that has two potentially elite pass rushers (if used correctly), a top notch #1 corner, a potentially great safety and a playmaking middle linebacker playing behind a very promising NT that looks to have real potential to be a game changer.

Geno Smith can come in and be a game manager and win games if Sutton puts the pieces together on defense (which I am not confident in).
All you're talking about is "Potential".

Potential is what gets coaches and GM's fired.
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All you're talking about is "Potential".

Potential is what gets coaches and GM's fired.
We are discussing what might transpire during the 2013 season, no?

Of course that includes trig to evaluate potential under changing circumstances.
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Don't be obtuse.
wouldnt for one day you would like to HIT on a player/talent in this decade? Like have a d-line that exceeds your low end shitty expectations of marginal progress?

Have another Derrick Thomas or Neil Smith? Wouldnt you like to be one of those teams that hits on a player in the first round like that rather than wondering if your #11 overall pick is going to get his first sack in year 2 of his playing career so we can clap and cheer on his progression good for him yay!

wouldnt you like your low expectations of our positional talent/development, be raised? Wouldnt that be awesome than what you expect of players now you give a free pass?

Hey maybe Allen Bailey will learn how to beat a 1 on 1 block and not get blown off the ball, or Jalil Brown will know how to not go all Will Bartee and faceguard or that Jeff Allen wont get blown off the ****ing ball every play, but it's okay, he's changing positions, he gets a pass.
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We are discussing what might grazings during the 2013 season, no?

Of course that includes trig to evaluate potential under changing circumstances.
Dude, there is no ****ing way this team is pushing for the playoffs in 2013 with a rookie QB. There are far too many holes at STARTING positions, let alone questions on the defensive line, offensive line, WR and TE positions.

If the Chiefs win 6 games next year with a rookie QB, I'll be thrilled.

***** ****ed this team. Hard.
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If you can't see top end potential from Dontari Poe after his rookie season, you are blind.

If Dontari is gonna be a 1 gap nose, he should be able to excel in that role.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:21 AM   #193
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Dude, there is no ****ing way this team is pushing for the playoffs in 2013 with a rookie QB. There are far too many holes at STARTING positions, let alone questions on the defensive line, offensive line, WR and TE positions.

If the Chiefs win 6 games next year with a rookie QB, I'll be thrilled.

***** ****ed this team. Hard.
11 out of 17 NFL.com guys thought we would win the division in 2012 because of the talent we had.

You thought so, too...as did I.

I think we had the NFLs worst combo of head coach and quarterbacks and that we are going from that to a top 5 coach in the league and will hopefully get good game manager play from our quarterback in his rookie year.

Romeo was Mr. I don't know and Cassel lead the league in turnovers even though he was benched before the halfway point.

I stick by my comment.

If we draft Geno and we field a defense that taps into the potential of the talent on that side of the ball, we will be in the 2013 playoffs.
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If you can't see top end potential from Dontari Poe after his rookie season, you are blind.

If Dontari is gonna be a 1 gap nose, he should be able to excel in that role.
The problem is that he showed almost no signs of being a top end player.

He was indistinguishable from Ron Edwards.

So why sit here and say he could be a "game changer?"

We have no way of knowing, and if he was a 5th round pick NO ONE would be saying it.
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If we draft Geno and we field a defense that taps into the potential of the talent on that side of the ball, we will be in the 2013 playoffs.
It's not that simple, because we're going through scheme overhauls on offense AND defense.

8-8 is our ceiling next season if all goes right.
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