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Old 11-03-2016, 09:11 PM  
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*** Official 2017 Royals Offseason Repository ***

The reign is over. Time to begin the quest for the next one.

Interesting offseason opens for the Royals. Will they go all in for one last shot with this crew? Will they re-tool for 2018 and beyond? Will Dayton Moore actually decrease payroll this time?

Trades, free agent signings, rumors, plans, proposals... dump 'em all here, for this is... the offseason repository!

Royals Top Prospects, 2017

This is a list that’s going to seem a little bleak initially, as Raul Mondesi got enough ABs to age out of the prospect rankings (just barely – at 135 ABs, he is not rookie eligible). But that said, I like the talent and feel like this is a system that will actually be underrated by the prospect services.

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Old 12-05-2016, 12:20 PM   #331
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If we trade Duffy, we may as well go into full fire sale mode this offseason. May as well get the highest return possible while we can.
Agreed...still think Wade goes...hate it but they need to rebuild and Herrera is ready
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Old 12-05-2016, 12:23 PM   #332
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@getnickwright: #Royals fans: @mellinger doesn't typically just eviscerate folks like he does Glass here. To me, this means the front office is furious... https://twitter.com/mellinger/status/804681478890287104

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...118370228.html

@getnickwright: And, based on @mellinger's reporting, they have every reason to be. Glass penny pinching in the last year of the window is abominable...
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Old 12-05-2016, 12:25 PM   #333
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Re: Davis market... great news for the Royals and Dayton Moore. If they move him, the Royals will get a great return.

I don't think the 2017 version of the team is that far removed from your start of 2015-roster. With health and some bounceback from a few key guys (really Cain and Moustakas), this team can be good enough offensively. If Cuthbert is a workable 2B, which I doubt, that also helps the offense a ton.

I'm not in favor of a fire sale. If they can move some guys who are about to be FA at the zenith of their values - Davis, for example - and get back pieces that help in 2017 and beyond, that makes sense.

Just selling off a bunch of pieces for prospects doesn't make much sense to me.

As far as trading Danny Duffy, that's the one that makes the least sense to me and the one that signals KC is tanking if he's moved.

Any possible contention for KC in 2017 involves Duffy pitching an entire season like a frontline starter.




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Old 12-05-2016, 12:35 PM   #334
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If we trade Duffy, we may as well go into full fire sale mode this offseason. May as well get the highest return possible while we can.
That's right. Either you go for 1 last glory run (my advice), or sell the whole damn lot. Trading off Davis and Duffy and maybe Dyson to keep the core makes no sense.
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Old 12-05-2016, 01:15 PM   #335
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my guess is Davis gets dealt to the cubs for two really good players, and Cain gets traded to the rangers.
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Old 12-05-2016, 01:18 PM   #336
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Assuming the goal is to WIN IN 2017, it's hard for me to be enthusiastic about trading off Wade. Assuming he's healthy, he's fairly irreplaceable.
Herrera would be the closer, but he's no Wade. And then you have to replace Herrera's role with...Strahm? Pray that he comes back as effective as he was last year. And, he may be needed to start.
Soria? JFC...
Who else is there? Brain Flynn? Chris Young? Gulp.

Prospects for Wade doesn't really help us for 2017. We need a good starting pitcher and some hitting production, to at the very least, replace Kendrys.
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Re: Davis market... great news for the Royals and Dayton Moore. If they move him, the Royals will get a great return.

I don't think the 2017 version of the team is that far removed from your start of 2015-roster. With health and some bounceback from a few key guys (really Cain and Moustakas), this team can be good enough offensively. If Cuthbert is a workable 2B, which I doubt, that also helps the offense a ton.

I'm not in favor of a fire sale. If they can move some guys who are about to be FA at the zenith of their values - Davis, for example - and get back pieces that help in 2017 and beyond, that makes sense.

Just selling off a bunch of pieces for prospects doesn't make much sense to me.

As far as trading Danny Duffy, that's the one that makes the least sense to me and the one that signals KC is tanking if he's moved.

Any possible contention for KC in 2017 involves Duffy pitching an entire season like a frontline starter.




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Who are pieces that can be moved from the Royals' farm in addition to a Davis or a Cain that can get back a reasonable piece that keeps the team a 2017 contender without bankrupting the future?
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Old 12-05-2016, 01:21 PM   #338
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@jonmorosi: #Royals gauging trade interest in Danny Duffy, who could fit for a contender (like Houston) that has been reluctant to meet price on Sale.
I guess you always listen, but trading off someone who was a good starter when you're desperate for starting pitching seems like a weird idea.
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Old 12-05-2016, 01:30 PM   #339
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On a side note, I think these baseball writers are so eager to write something big leading up to and during the winter meetings, that they'll tweet and report any rumor they hear, no matter how far-fetched or unsubstantiated.
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Old 12-05-2016, 01:42 PM   #341
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Who are pieces that can be moved from the Royals' farm in addition to a Davis or a Cain that can get back a reasonable piece that keeps the team a 2017 contender without bankrupting the future?

One of: Cheslor Cuthbert or Hunter Dozier

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Old 12-05-2016, 01:45 PM   #342
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Save that ammo for the trade deadline IMO. As long as we stay healthy, add some pieces in either a Wader or Cain deal this offseason. We will compete in 2017. I don't get all of this doom and gloom crap. Still a very good balllclub when healthy.
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