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Old 03-15-2013, 07:48 AM  
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Mike and Mike Talking about Geno going #1 overall

It was just a matter of time. Obviously the Chiefs don't need him but they are helping create a market for a trade.

Apparently Jaws loves the kid.
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Old 03-15-2013, 11:47 AM   #181
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Maybe there is a chance. We are filling holes. It's possible they want to win now and have a QBOTF. Let Alex have a year to prove himself then move on to Geno. Alex would be very tradable after a year with his contract, and they are filling lots of holes. I'm saying we are trading down most likely, but if we keep it I won't be shocked to hear Geno's name called.
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Old 03-15-2013, 11:58 AM   #182
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That's definitely a better comparison.
The Titans gave up a 2nd and 3rd round pick for Hasselbeck?
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Old 03-15-2013, 11:59 AM   #183
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I'm not anti-QB at 1.1 in any way, shape or form. There are all kinds of logical, well-thought out reasons why it would make sense to do it. I would do it, had I the power. But it isn't going to happen. Because it isn't a legitimate possibility. Not for this franchise. Allowing any glimmer of hope into your mind is just opening the door for crushing disappointment in a month.
Same thing happened with Cassel/Sanchez. A group of people held out hope the Chiefs would still take Sanchez even after giving up a 2nd for Cassel and speaking highly of him.
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:00 PM   #184
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Same thing happened with Cassel/Sanchez. A group of people held out hope the Chiefs would still take Sanchez even after giving up a 2nd for Cassel and speaking highly of him.
HUGE DIFFERENCE.

We wouldn't be paying Geno Smith a $50-$60 million contract.
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:01 PM   #185
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Same thing happened with Cassel/Sanchez. A group of people held out hope the Chiefs would still take Sanchez even after giving up a 2nd for Cassel and speaking highly of him.
Cassel wasn't a 29 year old QB that had a long history of being nothing more than a game manager. He still had upside.

Alex Smith is a known quantity...

An injury prone game manager that is a good game manager/stopgap.

Also, Geno will be cheap, where Sanchez would have cost 60m
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:03 PM   #186
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Be honest... you don't have a clue who this Chase Daniel guy is, do you?
The Daniel haters seem to be in two camps - Geno ballwashers who'd hate anybody the the Chiefs signed not named Geno, and angry beakers still butthurt about getting their shit pushed in back in 2007. I don't really give a crap about either group.

I have no idea whether Daniel will rise to the challenge if presented the opportunity - if he doesn't, I'll want him gone just as much as the next guy. But anybody who seriously thinks Chase sucks because he's been a "career backup" is too dumb to ****ing live.
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:04 PM   #187
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McNabb - second overall pick
Kolb - 36th pick
Vick - free agent signing

Look familiar to what we would have if we draft Geno?

Geno at 1
We traded the 34th pick for Alex
Signed Chase Daniels in FA
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:09 PM   #188
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Cassel wasn't a 29 year old QB that had a long history of being nothing more than a game manager. He still had upside
Wait, what?

Cassel had upside?!?! Whaaaa???

Cassel was a 28-year old career clipboard-holder who'd never played in college, and had one unremarkable season calling plays for one of the most loaded offenses in the league. Upside? Who in the world outside of Scott Pioli's office ever thought for a second he'd be anything? You can at least make the (completely vacuous) argument that Alex Smith is on an upward career trajectory. Cassel was a complete non-entity.

Good grief, dude.
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:10 PM   #189
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Andy Reids qbs in 2009

McNabb - second overall pick
Kolb - 36th pick
Vick - free agent signing

Look familiar to what we would have if we draft Geno?

Geno at 1
We traded the 34th pick for Alex
Signed Chase Daniels in FA
Mind....Blown....
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:12 PM   #190
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I have no idea whether Daniel will rise to the challenge if presented the opportunity
I'm sure he'll do a fine job of keeping the headphones propped on his noggin, making sure he has an excellent supply of working pens and fetching water and towels as the situation requires.

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Old 03-15-2013, 12:13 PM   #191
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The Titans gave up a 2nd and 3rd round pick for Hasselbeck?
Would they have to to make it a better comparison than Favre/Rodgers?
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:14 PM   #192
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Wait, what?

Cassel had upside?!?! Whaaaa???

Cassel was a 28-year old career clipboard-holder who'd never played in college, and had one unremarkable season calling plays for one of the most loaded offenses in the league. Upside? Who in the world outside of Scott *****'s office ever thought for a second he'd be anything? You can at least make the (completely vacuous) argument that Alex Smith is on an upward career trajectory. Cassel was a complete non-entity.

Good grief, dude.
You posted this using hindsight.

The NFL absolutely thought the guy had upside.
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:14 PM   #193
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Andy Reids qbs in 2009

McNabb - second overall pick
Kolb - 36th pick
Vick - free agent signing

Look familiar to what we would have if we draft Geno?

Geno at 1
We traded the 34th pick for Alex
Signed Chase Daniels in FA
Not really. Not really very similar at all. Almost the mirror opposite.
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:17 PM   #194
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Not really. Not really very similar at all. Almost the mirror opposite.
Do explain
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Still in the draft Geno camp. Let him sit for a year, trade Alex and we have our QB of the future.
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