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Old 07-12-2018, 09:28 PM  
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Republicans Thought Peter Strzok Would Be a Punching Bag. He Just Knocked Them Out.

The best line delivered by Peter Strzok today:

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“I understand we are living in a political era in which insults and insinuation often drown out honesty and integrity. I have the utmost respect for Congress’s oversight role, but I truly believe that today’s hearing is just another victory notch in Putin’s belt and another milestone in our enemies’ campaign to tear America apart.
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Republicans Thought Peter Strzok Would Be a Punching Bag. He Just Knocked Them Out.

He was supposed to be a key in the imaginary conspiracy Trump’s congressional lackeys and media fantasists have desperately tried to write as history. He was having none of it.

Those who forget the lessons of televised congressional hearings are doomed to repeat them, which is why the morning segment of the Capitol Hill show trial of veteran FBI agent and former head of the Bureau’s Counterespionage division Peter Strzok turned into a disaster for Republicans.

Donald Trump’s congressional enablers, sycophants, and political suck-ups wanted a punching bag, but Strzok instead delivered one of the rarest of moments: the full Joseph N. Welch.

Welch, the chief counsel for the U.S. Army during the infamous McCarthy hearings in 1954, had reached a breaking point. After McCarthy’s tendentious badgering reached a fever pitch, Welch delivered a famous rejoinder that ended the Wisconsin senator’s career. Watched by millions on live television, Welch went full beast-mode.

“If it were in my power to forgive you for your reckless cruelty I would do so,” said Welch. “I like to think I am a gentleman, but your forgiveness will have to come from someone other than me… You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?”
This morning, it was Strzok’s turn. After an hour of drama-queen badgering from Trey “Benghazi” Gowdy and Bob Goodlatte, Strzok issued two passionate statements that will be the takeaways from an otherwise disorganized and contentious shitshow of a hearing before the House Judiciary and Oversight Committees.

The first was a ringing defense of the FBI, with Strzok showing the kind of real passion that makes for great television. The FBI lifer issued a ringing defense of himself and his agency, punching Gowdy hard in the nose.

“I can assure you, Mr. Chairman, at no time, in any of these texts, did those personal beliefs ever enter into the realm of any action I took. Furthermore, this isn’t just me sitting here telling you you don’t have to take my word for it. At every step, at every investigative decision, there are multiple layers of people above me, the assistant director, executive assistant director, deputy director, and director of the FBI, and multiple layers of people below me, section chiefs, supervisors, unit chiefs, case agents and analysts, all of whom were involved in all of these decisions. They would not tolerate any improper behavior in me any more than I would tolerate it in them.”
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“That is who we are as the FBI. And the suggestion that I in some dark chamber somewhere in the FBI would somehow cast aside all of these procedures, all of these safeguards and somehow be able to do this is astounding to me. It simply couldn’t happen. And the proposition that that is going on, that it might occur anywhere in the FBI, deeply corrodes what the FBI is in American society, the effectiveness of their mission, and it is deeply destructive.”

The second was a shot across Donald Trump’s bow: “I understand we are living in a political era in which insults and insinuation often drown out honesty and integrity. I have the utmost respect for Congress’s oversight role, but I truly believe that today’s hearing is just another victory notch in Putin’s belt and another milestone in our enemies’ campaign to tear America apart.”

This latest spectacle was designed for one purpose only: the destruction of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Donald Trump’s Russia ties. Republicans like Fredo Nunes who have tried to present a series of dramatic, table-flipping reality TV moments to reach that goal have failed time and again to derail the Mueller investigation. This morning was yet another swing-and-a-miss for the Trump GOP.

Because Trump supporters live in a hermetic media echo chamber, these hearings are part of a predictable, hokey Kabuki dance. They’re a device for generating a new round of hyperbolic base-only stories that will follow the same dumb arc as all the rest. In the coming days, you’ll see Sean Hannity flirt with apoplexy, coating the camera lens with flecks of spittle as he rants over Strzok’s perfidy. You’ll see pro-Trump columnists herniate themselves stretching to turn flippant text messages into a vast conspiracy. Twitter will be a flood of moronic memes, white-hot takes, and promises that Strzok will soon be in Gitmo alongside Hillary, Obama, Podesta, and Soros.

None of it will deter the Terminator in the Special Counsel's office. None of it will change the facts of Russia's interference in the 2016 election, and Trump's ass-deep ties to Russian money and influence. Trump's unhinged, shithouse-rat-crazy tweets today should tell you how deeply he fears Mueller.
Strzok was supposed to be a key in the imaginary conspiracy that Trump's congressional lackeys and media fantasists have desperately tried to write as history. The idea that his text messages poison the entire Mueller investigation was a pillar of their defense of the president. This morning they were going for a quick kill. They needed Strzok to flail, and wilt. The Gowdy, Goodlatte, and Gaetz types needed their grandstanding, dick-waving mock outrage to leave Strozk shaking and begging for mercy.

Strozk had none of it. In this morning’s round he left the Trumpists of the House staggered in their corner, cut and shaky, wondering where Stozok learned to hit back that hard.

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Old 07-13-2018, 10:56 PM   #166
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20 indictments or whatever so far is a long way from nothing.
How many are related to Russian Collusion?
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Old 07-13-2018, 11:13 PM   #167
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I think you and I are both pretty reasonable posters. The difference is that you choose to ignore the parallels between what's going on today and what went on in the 1930s in Germany.

I don't.

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Old 07-13-2018, 11:57 PM   #168
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Republicans Thought Peter Strzok Would Be a Punching Bag. He Just Knocked Them Out.

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Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.) uses GOP members of Congress’ own words to highlight the hypocrisy of their criticism against FBI Agent Peter Strzok. pic.twitter.com/YD07QJoV4y— HuffPost Politics (@HuffPostPol) July 12, 2018


Except it is not hypocrisy because none of those members of Congress were a part of a LEGAL INVESTIGATION pertaining to Trump.

Trying to draw a distinction between people voicing their personal beliefs and an investigator prejudging the individual they are investigating in a legal case are two entirely different things.
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Old 07-14-2018, 01:51 AM   #169
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20 indictments or whatever so far is a long way from nothing.
It is? So far this fiasco looks like a joke. Mueller has either fumbled sentencing or flat out refuses to prosecute on the grounds of "not being ready."

Your 20 or whatever so far indictments are meaningless at this point.
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...meanwhile, Trump is gaining in sympathy and popularity, peaking heading into midterms.

Get ready for it...
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Old 07-14-2018, 05:44 AM   #171
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If you thought the liberals turned superhuman bat shit crazy after the 2016 elections lol wait until they get massacred after the mid terms in November.

October 2016: trump isn’t even close, Hillary landslide.

After Election Day: “gulp” then fight fight fight.....resist resist resist...

We’ll see how the resistance card plays out this November

And btw the congressman and woman calling strzok an American hero lol....wait for it...here is a huge belly laugh for you
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Yet another example of the hypocrisy of the Trumptards in Congress. They are even worse than the Trumptards who post on Chiefsplanet, because they actually have the power to stop their Fuhrer. They just choose not to because they are cowards.
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Yet another example of the hypocrisy of the Trumptards in Congress. They are even worse than the Trumptards who post on Chiefsplanet, because they actually have the power to stop their Fuhrer. They just choose not to because they are cowards.
This is part of the problem. I think most of us can agree (except the lunatic libtard left of course) that Congress is dysfunctional. Nobody is really defending the republicans in Congress, are they?

I think the actions by the lunatic fringe of the left is outspotlighting lol the dysfunctional congress (republican controlled). Your heroes would be better off keeping their mouths shut and doing nothing. Then they might do very well this November. But they’re just not smart enough to do the right thing (thank god)
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Except it is not hypocrisy because none of those members of Congress were a part of a LEGAL INVESTIGATION pertaining to Trump.

Trying to draw a distinction between people voicing their personal beliefs and an investigator prejudging the individual they are investigating in a legal case are two entirely different things.
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Strzok acting defiant does not equal "knocking them out". His words are on record, and just because he tried to play word-jitsu with the people grilling him (along with the Democrats trying to run interference for him as the tried with Rosenstein) does not make this a victory for Strzok in any way, shape or form.

In the end, what I took from that was a guy that acted like he thought he knew he was protected or of the belief nothing would happen to him personally due to his testimony. We shall see.
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Strzok acting defiant does not equal "knocking them out". His words are on record, and just because he tried to play word-jitsu with the people grilling him (along with the Democrats trying to run interference for him as the tried with Rosenstein) does not make this a victory for Strzok in any way, shape or form.

In the end, what I took from that was a guy that acted like he thought he knew he was protected or of the belief nothing would happen to him personally due to his testimony. We shall see.
For me It boils down to the information used in the FISA warrant application.
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For me It boils down to the information used in the FISA warrant application.
Right. That's the meat of the issue, not the fact he went out and performed and made the story about him thus giving the left something to cheer about.

This isn't over, no matter how many times the Lex's of the world want to proclaim it is. His kept woman testified behind closed doors yesterday (or Thursday?)…..
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Yet another example of the hypocrisy of the Trumptards in Congress. They are even worse than the Trumptards who post on Chiefsplanet, because they actually have the power to stop their Fuhrer. They just choose not to because they are cowards.
And this is exactly why Trump got elected.

Oust the ass-covering, phony, empty promise, entitled establishment on BOTH sides of the aisle. When some of these dicks realized they had to change their tune in order to save their cushy jobs, they fell in line. Pathetic.

Happens all the time regardless of political stripe.
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