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EagleRob · 04-04-2013, 06:01 PM

If Dwayne Bowe can believe that he is a top five WR in the NFL as was discussed on ESPN NFL Live tonight, then I as a n00b fan of another team can make the case I'm a top five poster on CP.

What I want to know is who the real homers are that believe Bowe and who are the realists that believe he's top 20 but not in the class of Megatron, Fitzgerald, etc?

Hootie · 04-04-2013, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

I think it's a bit premature to say AJ Green is elite. He's had 2 seasons. He looks very good so far.

So pretend money had nothing to do with it...or age.

Next year...

who ya got?

AJ or Dwayne?

EagleRob · 04-04-2013, 09:20 PM

AJ Green because he will get more of the share if his teams targets than Bowe will. Reid spreads the ball around to too many receivers to have any one of them have a monster year. T.O. in 2004 was the exception. If he runs the vertical routes and can get separation, and the QB can lead him, look out. Otherwise it's slants and zoom routes.

**Ming the Merciless** · 04-04-2013, 09:21 PM

Ill take the guy who doesnt have alex smith at QB

Hootie · 04-04-2013, 09:21 PM

there was really no argument needed

AJ Green >>>>> Dwayne Bowe

and that's not bashing BOwe

Sfeihc · 04-04-2013, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Kill yourself

Nice Dave. Now let me get this straight, I'm supposed to kill myself because I think DBo is lucky to be in the top dozen but AJ Green isn't ELITE?

You off your meds again?

ThaVirus · 04-04-2013, 09:44 PM

Its funny an Eagles fan brings this up here. One of my good friend's is an Eagles fan and has been arguing that DeSean Jackson is better than Dwayne Bowe. Of all people, DeSean ****ing Jackson. He even thinks he's gotten the better of me because every time we have the argument, he turns to everyone in the room and they all agree with him. ****ing reeruns. That dude sucks. Just tell him to run straight every play; that's all he good for..

He also argues LeSean McCoy is better than Jamaal Charles. You can't make this shit up, folks.

Anyway, I think Hootie hit this one on the head. Based off of production over the last few years (with last year being weighted most heavily), taking QB play into account, and future potential, there are three guys that go in tier 1 for sure: Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, and Andre Johnson. I'd probably throw AJ Green and Julio Jones in there on a generous day. I might be inclined to throw Brandon Marshall in there if I just got laid or something.

You could throw a ton of guys in tier 2. Off the top of my head: Dwayne Bowe, Roddy White, Demaryious Thomas, Michael Crabtree, Vincent Jackson, Marques Colston, Wes Welker, Miles Austin, Dez Bryant. I don't even care to name anymore. You give me a choice between any one of these guys in a pick-up game, it would be tough to make.

**BigMeatballDave** · 04-04-2013, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sfeihc

Nice Dave. Now let me get this straight, I'm supposed to kill myself because I think DBo is lucky to be in the top dozen but AJ Green isn't ELITE?

You off your meds again?

So, 1 season with 65 catches and another with 96 is elite? 2 seasons?

Bowe caught 70 his rookie season, then followed it up with 86. What is that?

I love Bowe, but I do not think he is elite.

Green could very well become elite, but I'd, at least, give him a few more seasons.

jspchief · 04-04-2013, 09:46 PM

Top 2 are crystal clear. You could maybe argue for a couple more. After about top 4, it gets pretty muddy.

A lot of good receivers in the league right now. Bowe is definitely a talent, and arguably hasn't been able to reach his pinnacle due to his QBs.

You want to call him 10th or 14th? Whatever. It's a pretty subjective topic.

**TribalElder** · 04-04-2013, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleRob

QB is everything.

Top 5 statement

Al Bundy · 04-04-2013, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleRob

If Dwayne Bowe can believe that he is a top five WR in the NFL as was discussed on ESPN NFL Live tonight, then I as a n00b fan of another team can make the case I'm a top five poster on CP.

What I want to know is who the real homers are that believe Bowe and who are the realists that believe he's top 20 but not in the class of Megatron, Fitzgerald, etc?

You're an idiot Eagles fan.

Sfeihc · 04-04-2013, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

So, 1 season with 65 catches and another with 96 is elite? 2 seasons?

Bowe caught 70 his rookie season, then followed it up with 86. What is that?

I love Bowe, but I do not think he is elite.

Green could very well become elite, but I'd, at least, give him a few more seasons.

I'm biased towards Green because he's on my fantasy team. IMO, it's Megatron, Larry Fitz then AJ and Julio down by the schoolyard. I know I'm too harsh in my criticism of Bowe. When his career is done he will be the KC's best WR ever. That of course is an indictment of the franchise as much as it's praise of Bowe's abilities.

Hootie · 04-04-2013, 10:49 PM

so now it's about stats with Dave?

what?

Watch AJ Green and then watch Dwayne Bowe and then report back to me.

I'm fairly certain Dave doesn't actually watch football...and if he does, it's Chiefs only.

Hootie · 04-04-2013, 10:51 PM

AJ Green has HALL OF FAME ELITE talent.

Dwayne Bowe is good, not that good. Not close. I like Bowe, too.

**BigMeatballDave** · 04-04-2013, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

so now it's about stats with Dave?

what?

Watch AJ Green and then watch Dwayne Bowe and then report back to me.

I'm fairly certain Dave doesn't actually watch football...and if he does, it's Chiefs only.

He's played exactly 2 ****ing seasons.

And I never said Bowe was better than Green. He's incomplete at this point.

It's absolutely reeruned to call a 2nd year player elite. If he plays at last season's level for a few more seasons, sure.

aturnis · 04-04-2013, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The God Hypothesis

Your a cool cat, no ones purr-fect.

Sweet. Got my cat joke laugh in for the day...

04-04-2013, 06:01 PM
EagleRob Living Vicariously Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Leesburg, VA Casino cash: $10004900	I'm a Top Five poster on CP most definitely If Dwayne Bowe can believe that he is a top five WR in the NFL as was discussed on ESPN NFL Live tonight, then I as a n00b fan of another team can make the case I'm a top five poster on CP. What I want to know is who the real homers are that believe Bowe and who are the realists that believe he's top 20 but not in the class of Megatron, Fitzgerald, etc?
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04-04-2013, 09:20 PM	#77
EagleRob Living Vicariously Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Leesburg, VA Casino cash: $10004900	AJ Green because he will get more of the share if his teams targets than Bowe will. Reid spreads the ball around to too many receivers to have any one of them have a monster year. T.O. in 2004 was the exception. If he runs the vertical routes and can get separation, and the QB can lead him, look out. Otherwise it's slants and zoom routes. __________________ Enjoy the ride up!
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Ming the Merciless Emporer of Mongo Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Milky Way Casino cash: $2977556	Ill take the guy who doesnt have alex smith at QB __________________ ---- 2018 Adopt-A-Chief : Chris Conley 2017 Adopt-A-Chief : FRANK ZOMBO Click here-->*The Holy Chiefsplanet Lexicon **
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04-04-2013, 09:21 PM	#79
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	there was really no argument needed AJ Green >>>>> Dwayne Bowe and that's not bashing BOwe
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04-04-2013, 09:44 PM	#81
ThaVirus Settle this once and forever Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $2112369	Its funny an Eagles fan brings this up here. One of my good friend's is an Eagles fan and has been arguing that DeSean Jackson is better than Dwayne Bowe. Of all people, DeSean **ing Jackson. He even thinks he's gotten the better of me because every time we have the argument, he turns to everyone in the room and they all agree with him. **ing reeruns. That dude sucks. Just tell him to run straight every play; that's all he good for.. He also argues LeSean McCoy is better than Jamaal Charles. You can't make this shit up, folks. Anyway, I think Hootie hit this one on the head. Based off of production over the last few years (with last year being weighted most heavily), taking QB play into account, and future potential, there are three guys that go in tier 1 for sure: Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, and Andre Johnson. I'd probably throw AJ Green and Julio Jones in there on a generous day. I might be inclined to throw Brandon Marshall in there if I just got laid or something. You could throw a ton of guys in tier 2. Off the top of my head: Dwayne Bowe, Roddy White, Demaryious Thomas, Michael Crabtree, Vincent Jackson, Marques Colston, Wes Welker, Miles Austin, Dez Bryant. I don't even care to name anymore. You give me a choice between any one of these guys in a pick-up game, it would be tough to make.
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04-04-2013, 09:46 PM	#83
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	Top 2 are crystal clear. You could maybe argue for a couple more. After about top 4, it gets pretty muddy. A lot of good receivers in the league right now. Bowe is definitely a talent, and arguably hasn't been able to reach his pinnacle due to his QBs. You want to call him 10th or 14th? Whatever. It's a pretty subjective topic. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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04-04-2013, 10:49 PM	#87
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	so now it's about stats with Dave? what? Watch AJ Green and then watch Dwayne Bowe and then report back to me. I'm fairly certain Dave doesn't actually watch football...and if he does, it's Chiefs only.
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04-04-2013, 10:51 PM	#88
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	AJ Green has HALL OF FAME ELITE talent. Dwayne Bowe is good, not that good. Not close. I like Bowe, too.
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