**** OFFICIAL 2012 Kansas Football Repository Thread ****

[ArrowheadHawk]

New Coach, New year, new thread.

Sat, Sept. 1 SDSU at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS at 6:00p.m. CT Jayhawk IMG TV Network

Sat, Sept. 8 Rice at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS FSN at 2:30p.m. CT Fox Sports Net

Sat, Sept. 15 TCU at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS at 11:00a.m. CT FX

Sat, Sept. 22 Kansas at No. Illinois
DeKalb, Illinois

Sat, Oct. 6 Kansas at Kansas State Bill Snyder Family Stadium
Manhattan, KS

Sat, Oct. 13 Okla. St. at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS

Sat, Oct. 20 Kansas at Oklahoma Oklahoma Memorial Stadium
Norman, OK

Sat, Oct. 27 Texas at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS

Sat, Nov. 3 Kansas at Baylor Floyd Casey Stadium
Waco, TX

Sat, Nov. 10 Kansas at TT Jones AT&T Stadium
Lubbock, TX

Sat, Nov. 17 Iowa State at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS

Sat, Dec. 1 Kansas at West Virginia
Morgantown, W.V.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

He had to get the boosters to pony up for Gill's buyout. There were a lot of rumors that boosters had pledged a lot of dough for Leach specifically. I wouldn't be surprised if the boosters are attaching strings to that money, and those strings would likely require a big name. I base this last part on nothing other than my gut.

Being that the Leach hire came so quickly after the season ended it's looking more and more likely that he and Wazzu had a deal in place weeks, if not months before this.

KU never had a chance at him. No other school ever had a chance at him.

He probably already had a deal in place before Gill was fired.

Look how long its taking for all the other schools to sign on with prospective coaches.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

There have been message board rumors saying pretty much the same thing - but I've taken them much like I've been taking Tait's blog - with a grain of salt.

Hopefully they come through with a good coach. Obviously we aren't going to get the top guys, but someone that has the potential to grow into a coach the likes of Texas/LSU/Alabama would want to steal away would be nice.

That's what KU does to everyone else in bball.

It is what it is.

[teedubya]

Congrats METHZZOU!!

[Braincase]

Mizzou fans in a KU thread - the flaming bag of poo on the Welcome mat of life.

[Lzen]

I'll give SG credit. His last couple of posts don't appear to be trolling. So, along those lines, here's a Tom Keegan column. Interesting. Not sure if there's any truth to this, but interesting nonetheless. I'd be fine with this.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2011/d...-wants-ku-job/

Tuesday, December 6, 2011
Keegan

Big-time coach wants KU job

By Tom Keegan


Note: This column, which appeared in Tuesday's Lawrence Journal-World, is the updated version of an online column that appeared Monday night on KUsports.com.

Ideally, Kansas University needs to hire a football coach who has won a national championship, has Bill Self’s personality and Bill Snyder’s attention to every detail of a football program.

Impossible, right? Nobody who fits that description would be interested in one of the tougher coaching challenges in the BCS, right? Wrong and wrong.

Former Tennessee coach Phillip Fulmer is ready, willing and able to whip this fractured football program into shape, according to a Lawrence man who shared a four-bedroom Wichita duplex with Fulmer and two other young men in 1974.

“He told me a little over a week ago, ‘Let ’em know I’m interested,’” said local crop insurance man Rich Jantz. “The guy had a 152-52 record playing in the best conference in America! He wanted the job two years ago, and they hired a guy who was 20-30 in a bad league?”

Jantz’s friendship with Fulmer started when the men worked in the Wichita State athletic department. Jantz was a tennis coach/assistant athletic director, Fulmer an assistant football coach.

“He’s like Bill Self, the way they get along with people, that personality, that charisma,” Jantz said. “Bill’s got that knack, he doesn’t forget names, doesn’t forget people. Phillip’s that way. It’s unbelievable the way people just want to be around those two guys.”
Robbing a line from Ronald Reagan in his debate against Fritz Mondale, nobody should make an issue of Fulmer’s age, 61. His youth and inexperience relative to that of Snyder, 72, should not be held against him.

“Bill and Phillip would own the state of Kansas,” Jantz said.

Shortly after Lew Perkins had hired Gill after interviewing Fulmer and several others, Kansas played a basketball game in Knoxville. Jantz invited Self and Fulmer to lunch so they could meet. Who spots them 10 minutes into it and joins them? Perkins.

“Phillip was very nice to him, first-class all the way,” Jantz said. “I can’t be that way, but Phillip handled it fine.”

Jantz said Fulmer, “is on top of everything, right down to a kid spelling a word wrong at Fantasy Camp. That’s the way football coaches have to be. He’s in control of everything. He’ll be busy doing something across the room, and I’ll be talking to someone else. He hears every word of it.”

But could Fulmer recruit Tennessee athletes to Kansas?

“At Tennessee, he recruited nationwide,” Jantz said. “You have to at Tennessee. It’s not the greatest job in the world as far as talent in your state. Phillip did a hell of a job getting kids from all over the country. And he put together a great staff.”

North Carolina wants Larry Fedora, and Texas A&M is interested. Not looking good for Kansas.

Hiring Fulmer two years ago would have resulted in Kansas being “off and rolling by now,” Jantz said.
Better late than never.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

He's getting nothing from the Athletic Department, so the result is him putting together an article based off of quotes from a local insurance salesman.

Nice.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Zeke

He's getting nothing from the Athletic Department, so the result is him putting together an article based off of quotes from a local insurance salesman.

Nice.

Yeah. Terrible.

Hopefully KU can land somebody good. All this hubbub for nothing would be epic lame.

[Mr. Plow]

Sounds like Fedora is out as an option.

[Saul Good]

I listed Fullmer as a possible coach for KU earlier. I believe it may have been earlier in this thread. I think he would be a solid choice.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Sounds like Fedora is out as an option.

What you hearing?

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Sounds like Fedora is out as an option.

Why because he's interviewing at multiple places? We don't know if he's interviewed at KU even. Hell, we don't even know if he's seriously an option. His interviews with A&M and UNC were made public by the respective universities. I've seen no reason to believe that he's removed himself from consideration for anything as of yet. This coaching search for KU is very tough to figure out, we have absolutely no clue as to what is happening. We did get the one bit of info that Gus Malzahn was interviewed by Zenger, and that came from a third party Coach that was quoated as saying he wanted Malzahn on his new staff but confirmed he had interviewed with KU.

[DJ's left nut]

Why aren't guys like Fulmer and Barnett being considered decent hires by the fans?

You're not going to get a 'prime year', established coach at this point in the program. You've also established a nice little reputation as a coach-killer over the last several years (I've heard both Dan Patrick and Scott VanPelt make this point lately), making you pretty far down on the list for this season's 'hot' coach.

Well the good news is that there's a new 'hot' coach every single season and most of them are fairly interchangeable. So why not bring in a guy like Fulmer or Barnett, guys that know how to win games and don't care if they are walking into potential career suicide as its likely their last job anyway?

You really don't think Fulmer could turn KU into a much MUCH better job in 3 or 4 years? You essentially bring him in as a short-term stopgap and safe rebuilder. He won't come with nearly the risks of a some of these assistants and 2nd tier head coaches you're looking at (i.e. Gill) and you're far more likely to end up improving KU as a job for the next hire. Maybe then the 'name' assistant that year gives KU a much longer look.

Given the state of the program, bringing in an older coach with a strong pedigree seems like a solid idea to me.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Why because he's interviewing at multiple places? We don't know if he's interviewed at KU even. Hell, we don't even know if he's seriously an option. His interviews with A&M and UNC were made public by the respective universities. I've seen no reason to believe that he's removed himself from consideration for anything as of yet. This coaching search for KU is very tough to figure out, we have absolutely no clue as to what is happening. We did get the one bit of info that Gus Malzahn was interviewed by Zenger, and that came from a third party Coach that was quoated as saying he wanted Malzahn on his new staff but confirmed he had interviewed with KU.

Also, to add... it had been confirmed (I think Friday?) by Dave Doeren that he had not been contacted by KU when asked.

That's about all we know.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Why aren't guys like Fulmer and Barnett being considered?.

They might be. We've no idea.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You're not going to get a 'prime year', established coach at this point in the program. You've also established a nice little reputation as a coach-killer over the last several years (I've heard both Dan Patrick and Scott VanPelt make this point lately), making you pretty far down on the list for this season's 'hot' coach.

Thanks for that, I guess. We need to be reminded of our place in your world.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Well the good news is that there's a new 'hot' coach every single season and most of them are fairly interchangeable. So why not bring in a guy like Fulmer or Barnett, guys that know how to win games and don't care if they are walking into potential career suicide as its likely their last job anyway?

Honestly, I don't want either of those guys. I don't want the Fulmer Cup at KU... Barnett, ya no thanks. But the only one thinking the KU job is career suicide is you guys. It's not an elite coaching position, and it kind of sucks atm, but spare us the MU mantra. KU fans said the same thing about the MU bball job for years just because it was the vogue thing to do. No one actually believed it, unless they were shortsighted idiots.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You really don't think Fulmer could turn KU into a much MUCH better job in 3 or 4 years? You essentially bring him in as a short-term stopgap and safe rebuilder. He won't come with nearly the risks of a some of these assistants and 2nd tier head coaches you're looking at (i.e. Gill) and you're far more likely to end up improving KU as a job for the next hire.

I think Fulmer has a friend that is a an insurance salesman. And ya that's about it.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Given the state of the program, bringing in an older coach with a strong pedigree seems like a solid idea to me

It's a good thing you're not KU's AD.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

What you hearing?

Originally Posted by Zeke

Why because he's interviewing at multiple places? We don't know if he's interviewed at KU even. Hell, we don't even know if he's seriously an option. His interviews with A&M and UNC were made public by the respective universities. I've seen no reason to believe that he's removed himself from consideration for anything as of yet. This coaching search for KU is very tough to figure out, we have absolutely no clue as to what is happening. We did get the one bit of info that Gus Malzahn was interviewed by Zenger, and that came from a third party Coach that was quoated as saying he wanted Malzahn on his new staff but confirmed he had interviewed with KU.

Just a thought I guess. ASU, UNC, & A&M have all, or are going to interview him - assuming that 1, or all three of them, offer him the position, I'm sure he'd take one of those 3 before KU.