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Old 03-17-2012, 08:31 PM  
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DeCastro anyone?

Now that we have our RT and missed out on the RGIII and Luck sweepstakes, how would people feel about drafting David DeCastro? The way I see it is unless we trade our first this year to someone for their first next year (assuming there is someone willing to do this) who else could we really use at #11? To me

1. Richardson will most likely be gone

2. Tannehill is a horrible idea at #11 assuming he is even there.

3. There are no NTs worth a #11 pick.

Why not get an elite guard and have a young monstrous O-Line with Albert-DeCastro-Hudson-Asamoah-Winston?

I am usually against the thought of drafting O-line in the first, but we are in a spot talent wise where he would be a great pickup since we will miss out on QB (clearly our biggest flaw) this year.
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:38 PM   #61
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I could sit here and argue all positions on offense are easy to fill other than QB, LT and WR...so should we be taking defense?

it's interesting that this may be a valid case in point, considering most of the defensive guys that we're now selecting ahead of running backs, became defensive players because they lacked something here or there to be a big time offensive playmaker
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:41 PM   #62
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I could sit here and argue all positions on offense are easy to fill other than QB, LT and WR...so should we be taking defense?
That's probably true about ease in filling. I was talking more about "importance". I still maintain it's tied for 3rd least at best on O.

Taking D? Probably. Could use a NT. Could use a pass rusher or a MLB.

Honestly more than anything, I'd prefer they trade down. If they're unable to do it and have to pick a guy? I'd really prefer they don't take Decastro but if they feel everybody else in positions that matter more would be too much of a reach, then I guess they're F-ed huh (from my prospective). Might as well take your guy.
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:41 PM   #63
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I've seen some of the Nick Perry stuff, and I've seen a ton of him, all the talent in the world is in that guy..not sure it's the best pick for us though.
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:41 PM   #64
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God, weren't people saying this same shit about safety two years ago? Drafting on position is archaic.

You don't turn your back on any position other than kicker/punter. Draft the best player. Not every first round pick is going to be Calvin Johnson. Get a starter, hopefully a pro bowler, but a solid, consistent starter, if nothing else.
this times elevnty gazillion when it comes to the top pick especially
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:42 PM   #65
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On the offensive side of the ball, how many positions would you say are less important that Guard.

If you had to list them. How many would be lower than Guard?

FB - That's easy.
C - ??? Maybe? I think it's a toss up with being tied with Guard.

It just isn't an impact position. Guards and Centers are scrub guys that can be filled easily in the draft. You going to spend a #11 pick on that? Of course not.
Difference is that with the old salary cap no one wanted to drop a crap ton of cash on a guard at #11. Now with the rookie cap being in place, teams are more willing to get a guard higher because they cost far less. There won't be as many late round gems as there used to be. Teams are drafting guards and centers more and more in the first round nowadays.
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:42 PM   #66
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It'd seem pretty damn stupid to pass on DeCastro because oh no position value.

It's not like they would be drafting him to be a ****ing kicker.
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:43 PM   #67
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this times elevnty gazillion when it comes to the top pick especially
If you're looking for the safest, hey this guy will start for many years be good make some pro bowls then it's DeCastro or Kuechely.
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:44 PM   #68
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How many real difference makers are there at RB?
In the league?

Hmm...

AP
MJD
McFadden
Jamaal
Sproles
Lesean McCoy
Arian Foster
Marshawn Lynch
Matt Forte
Fred Jackson
Ray Rice

Possibly Demarco Murray, or he could have been a flash in the pan.

Any from the list you disagree with?

Because only three of those guys were first round picks. AP, Marshawn, and McFadden.
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:46 PM   #69
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Difference is that with the old salary cap no one wanted to drop a crap ton of cash on a guard at #11. Now with the rookie cap being in place, teams are more willing to get a guard higher because they cost far less. There won't be as many late round gems as there used to be. Teams are drafting guards and centers more and more in the first round nowadays.
Yes. It's just a changing facet of an ever-changing game.

Will there still be late round gems? Of course. Guys come out of nowhere. But the days of KNOWING that a guy was a sure-fire contributor, starter from day one, and you could just sit on it, because - hey, no one drafts guards in the first...well, those days are looking to be over.
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:47 PM   #70
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That's probably true about ease in filling. I was talking more about "importance". I still maintain it's tied for 3rd least at best on O.

Taking D? Probably. Could use a NT. Could use a pass rusher or a MLB.

Honestly more than anything, I'd prefer they trade down. If they're unable to do it and have to pick a guy? I'd really prefer they don't take Decastro but if they feel everybody else in positions that matter more would be too much of a reach, then I guess they're F-ed huh (from my prospective). Might as well take your guy.
You want a NT @ #11? Who is worth that? We are a team that does not have very many weaknesses left. We need depth, but you don't get that with a #11 pick. You draft starters. Our biggst weakness will not be addressed, so why not put another elite player on this team? Most of the elite ones will be gone by the time we pick (Luck, RGIII, Claiborne, Kalil, Richardson, Blackmon), so why not get an elite guard even if good ones can be found later. It's not like any NT is worth that pick, nor is there any QB outside of the two that will already be gone.
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I'm gonna ask in this thread..who's the sleeper QB that people like here?
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:51 PM   #72
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I'm gonna ask in this thread..who's the sleeper QB that people like here?
Outside of the top two? Something in my gut likes Kellen Moore. I know it is not a sexy pick and many would disagree with it, but he seems to have "it" and if he were about 4-5 inches taller would probably be a 1st round pick.
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:52 PM   #73
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You want a NT @ #11? Who is worth that? We are a team that does not have very many weaknesses left. We need depth.
Yeah I don't want Poe. As big of a need as NT is, Poe didn't dominate in college football. So pass.

This thread is all about "I want Decastro". If people get to say that then I get to say "I want a trade down".

That's my 1st choice. Now if they take Decastro I'll look at it this way. I'll say you shouldn't draft a Guard with that pick but by all accounts the kid is really good so I hope he ends up being great. In other words, I'll get over it.
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:52 PM   #74
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I'm gonna ask in this thread..who's the sleeper QB that people like here?
I like Kellen Moore, even if he is short with a noodle arm. The guy just freaking wins. And the kid from San Diego State, I think. I'm blanking on his name....
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I'm gonna ask in this thread..who's the sleeper QB that people like here?
Isn't QB a moot point now with the signing of Quinn? They're not going to carry 4 QBs.

Sucks when you have Cassel wasting a roster spot huh?
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