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Old 02-24-2014, 11:32 PM  
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DraftPlanet is not closed.

Draft discussion is now encouraged in the Lounge. This format has been followed in the past and fell by the wayside.

We've had a discussion within this thread and reached a partial compromise. I don't know exactly what it looks like but I have a general idea of what I think would be positive for ChiefsPlanet. I'm looking to regular participants in DraftPlanet and The Lounge to help fill in the blanks with their own cool ideas.

The following is not yet etched in stone. There's a lot of pertinent discussion throughout the thread.
DraftPlanet will remain open until one week after the Combine. Draft gurus will be encouraged to start and/or ask for threads to be moved to the Lounge. We want to encourage football discussion in the Lounge and we hope Draftnits will seek to share their knowledge with the GenPop. Finally, DraftPlanet will remain open year around but new threads will be moderated by Draft moderators and moved to the Lounge or kept in DraftPlanet based on a yet-to-be determined criteria which is up for discussion.

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Old 02-25-2014, 12:33 AM   #91
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If you look at the majority of other NFL team fan forums, they are mainly divided into several different topics:

[Insert Team Name] Talk - Obvious, threads about anything that pertains to the existing team/players

Around the League - anything related to the rest of the NFL/ players not on the team, etc

College Football/Draft

The Lounge - where all of your poop threads, child molestation by a teacher threads, NSFW threads, etc, can be found. Crap that has nothing to do with football.

It's weird that actual talk about the Chiefs seems to be side chatter here while the main forum is all of the random stuff.
See, there's the circular argument again. We shuffled all the offseason draft talk off the main forum, now people are complaining there isn't enough football talk on the main forum. It doesn't make any sense.

But also the appeal to this forum was always that it wasn't like most NFL forums. The whole "normal" structure of team/around the league/off topic forums is a bad idea.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:33 AM   #92
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If you look at the majority of other NFL team fan forums, they are mainly divided into several different topics:

[Insert Team Name] Talk - Obvious, threads about anything that pertains to the existing team/players

Around the League - anything related to the rest of the NFL/ players not on the team, etc

College Football/Draft

The Lounge - where all of your poop threads, child molestation by a teacher threads, NSFW threads, etc, can be found. Crap that has nothing to do with football.

It's weird that actual talk about the Chiefs seems to be side chatter here while the main forum is all of the random stuff.
Having the general forum being the main forum is a plus. When Patriots Planet shifted away from that (and made a bunch of other really stupid decisions), the site went to shit.

My preferences, for what that's worth, would be in this order:

1.) Just allow people to start draft threads in the main lounge as well as Draft Planet until the draft is over.

2.) Wait until the combine's over to close Draft Planet.

3.) Burn the place to the ground, douse it in antifreeze, and throw "Obama was here" posters all over the ashes.

4.) Give in to the whiny shits who had the ability to start draft threads in the lounge and give the mods the opportunity to just let them slide without this becoming a big deal, but decided to start bitching instead.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:35 AM   #93
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Direckshun could have mod ability for the draftplanet version and disembowel anyone who posts something in the draftplanet version that isn't worthy.


Not necessary.

To be honest, I'm starting to come down a bit from my ersatz rage high. Part of it is Phobia's responsiveness on the issue rather than coming out in "**** you" guns-blazing mode, as is too often the case on this forum. Part of it is that it really is just a subforum on a football forum, so who gives a shit. Part of it is that all cultures need some change, and it's not terrible to siphon off draft talk to the Lounge.

I just really liked the draft forum. Really, really liked it.

Oh well.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:36 AM   #94
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If you look at the majority of other NFL team fan forums, they are mainly divided into several different topics:

[Insert Team Name] Talk - Obvious, threads about anything that pertains to the existing team/players

Around the League - anything related to the rest of the NFL/ players not on the team, etc

College Football/Draft

The Lounge - where all of your poop threads, child molestation by a teacher threads, NSFW threads, etc, can be found. Crap that has nothing to do with football.

It's weird that actual talk about the Chiefs seems to be side chatter here while the main forum is all of the random stuff.
We don't care how other forums do what they do. We've always done what we wanted, ditched what failed, and kept what worked. Most those other forums have copied at least one or two things we've done. We do as much as we can to keep the majority happy and this move is an effort to remind folks of that.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:44 AM   #95
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:45 AM   #96
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Would it ever be possible to color code thread topics on the main page based on topic subject- like you can with the icons now?
Possibly a feature one could turn On or off, or even sort by those Pre-fixed topic subjects.

Ya know like - Chiefs would be a red highlight, Royals - blue, NFL - green, News and and Info - yellow, Draft - Brown. KU - different shade of Blue, KSU - Purple, Mizzou - Brown Mustard Color, Game Threads - Gold.

Obviously, those not designated would be the default color scheme for the board, and you could turn them on or off via User Controls - possibly even individually so, for example, KU would show up highlighted, but KSU & MU would just be their normal default UI look.

just an idea....
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:47 AM   #97
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Would it ever be possible to color code thread topics on the main page based on topic subject- like you can with the icons now?
Possibly a feature one could turn On or off, or even sort by those Pre-fixed topic subjects.

Ya know like - Chiefs would be a red highlight, Royals - blue, NFL - green, News and and Info - yellow, Draft - Brown. KU - different shade of Blue, KSU - Purple, Mizzou - Brown Mustard Color, Game Threads - Gold.

Obviously, those not designated would be the default color scheme for the board, and you could turn them on or off via User Controls - possibly even individually so, for example, KU would show up highlighted, but KSU & MU would just be their normal default UI look.

just an idea....
Table this and keep it. Kyle has a goal of upgrading our board software this offseason. We aren't spending any amount of time customizing this one until the new one is operable.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:48 AM   #98
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OP updated. Discuss latest options. I don't care about your "this sucks" posts.

I like "this sucks because and here is a much better way to do it because" posts.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:48 AM   #99
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We don't care how other forums do what they do. We've always done what we wanted, ditched what failed, and kept what worked. Most those other forums have copied at least one or two things we've done. We do as much as we can to keep the majority happy and this move is an effort to remind folks of that.
Ok, that's fine, but why penalize the ones who were already talking about football in Draft Planet?

It seems clear to me that people in the main forum don't really want to talk about football, that's why it's dominated by poop threads, molestation stories, etc. Is it our fault that those people aren't interested enough to click a button to enter Draft Planet?

We post about the draft there because we want to avoid the clutter that is in the main forum. In my opinion, it's just simpler that way. If people want to talk about football they're free to come post on existing threads in Draft Planet; it's not like we're stopping them from doing that. Or they can post their threads here, whatever. Leave it the way it was.

I just don't agree with penalizing the existing Draft Planet users over a few complaints.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:53 AM   #100
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I just don't agree with penalizing the existing Draft Planet users over a few complaints.
Then read OP again. It's been open for discussion. We've tried it half a dozen different ways in the past 14 years.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:54 AM   #101
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Table this and keep it. Kyle has a goal of upgrading our board software this offseason. We aren't spending any amount of time customizing this one until the new one is operable.
Fair enough.

Me personally, I'm cool with whatever. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I come to CP bc of the discussion and Good mix of users, but understand cohesion and accessibility can make a huge difference in quality of experience and participation for messageboard sites like our little community.
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OP updated. Discuss latest options. I don't care about your "this sucks" posts.

I like "this sucks because and here is a much better way to do it because" posts.
Three things:

1. I really hate this idea, period.

2. If you're going to close the forum, you might as well nuke it rather than juke threads between forums based on whatever arbitrary criteria we cook up, but please move all DraftPlanet threads to the main forum, since I do enjoy looking up threads from a couple years ago to see how my predictions turned out.

3. The absolute best thing ChiefsPlanet does is the CP Mock. That needs to be stickied in the Lounge. Again, it is the best thing this forum does.
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Then read OP again. It's been open for discussion. We've tried it half a dozen different ways in the past 14 years.
With the new change, you might want to delete my hat tip thread from the lounge.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:57 AM   #104
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With the new change, you might want to delete my hat tip thread from the lounge.
Thanks. Yeah. Less confusion that way.
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Then read OP again. It's been open for discussion. We've tried it half a dozen different ways in the past 14 years.


Move all draft threads to Draft Planet from one week after the draft until the week after the Super Bowl.

For the time between the Super Bowl and through one week after the draft, allow draft discussion in both areas. That should allow Draft Planet to devote entire threads to the backup punter from division 4 Biteme State University, yet still allow for decent draft talk on the main board. Between draft talk and free agent talk, the slow time on the main forum should be short-lived.
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