Chiefs LNBS: Aaron Murray will be our Nick Foles - Page 5

**BossChief** · 05-12-2014, 08:48 PM

I think both guys waited a year too long to enter the draft.

If Nick Foles had come out after his junior year, he would have had a chance to be a first round pick. If Aaron Murray came out last year, he would have, too. Heck, Tony Dungy said on espn last year that he would take Aaron Murray first overall if he had come out.

I know some here have said the guy won't ever have a chance to start, but I really think the kid can do everything Alex Smith did last year and then some, if given the chance.

**DeezNutz** · 05-12-2014, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I'd tend to agree.

All I saw from Bray at camp was a guy that could throw a perfect deep pass, but had no sense for pressure, his ball security was poor, his feet were slow as shit and he seemed to force the deep ball.

Not much of that translates to the WCO without a huge project undertaking and I'm not sure Bray has what it takes between the ears to complete such a task.

Some truly stupid shit has been posted recently about wanting to release Daniel and keep Bray and Murray.

Why?

So when Smith goes down, which is entirely possible given his track record, the Chiefs have absolutely zero ****ing chance of even being representable on Sundays? So we can try to replicate the Tyler mother****ing Palko era?

But, but, but Daniel[s] sucks!!2!! Yeah, and he's a mother****ing HOFer compared to the likes of UDFA Bray. That's reality. And so is Murray.

OldSchool · 05-12-2014, 10:27 PM

If Murray was actually any good with starting potential, teams would not pass on him all the way until the 5th round regardless of whether or not he got injured last year. He's a freaken QB who wasn't very mobile in the first place anyways, his ACL injury, if it dropped him at all, would have hurt him by maybe 1 round. Murray is a career backup, not a future star.

**DeezNutz** · 05-12-2014, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

If Murray was actually any good with starting potential, teams would not pass on him all the way until the 5th round regardless of whether or not he got injured last year. He's a freaken QB who wasn't very mobile in the first place anyways, his ACL injury, if it dropped him at all, would have hurt him by maybe 1 round. Murray is a career backup, not a future star.

I can assume only that this post was in no way a response to mine.

**BossChief** · 05-12-2014, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Some truly stupid shit has been posted recently about wanting to release Daniel and keep Bray and Murray.

Why?

So when Smith goes down, which is entirely possible given his track record, the Chiefs have absolutely zero ****ing chance of even being representable on Sundays? So we can try to replicate the Tyler mother****ing Palko era?

But, but, but Daniel[s] sucks!!2!! Yeah, and he's a mother****ing HOFer compared to the likes of UDFA Bray. That's reality. And so is Murray.

People want to get rid of Daniel because he is due 8 million the next 2 years.

If a vet backup from a WCO shakes loose, I'd love to go into next year with a cheap vet and Aaron Murray as the 2 and 3.

His cap hit in 2015 is 4.8 million.

This will be his last year in KC, anyway.

I don't think Bray offers anything to this offense unless he has utilized every minute of this offseason to hone his skills and develop a lot of skills that seemed completely non existent.

**Tribal Warfare** · 05-12-2014, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Not even close.

Bray is a guy that has a strong arm and NOTHING else. For the WCO, he is/was a big time project.

Murray could teach Bray a lot about being a quarterback.

He's an Alex only fan, he wants every other QB on the roster to suck except Alex.

**RealSNR** · 05-12-2014, 10:37 PM

If there's one thing I learned from Tomahawk and Tribal Warfare's ultra-creepy Bray stalker thread, it's that Bray has an overinflated ego that loves to soothe itself by relentlessly posting on instagram and impressing his douchebag friends from high school and college. His obsession with his upcoming marriage made me want to barf.

That reminded me exactly of Brodie Croyle, how when Trent Green got traded and the media asked Croyle about the possibility of taking over as starting QB, he responded with something like, "I'm not thinking about that right now. I've got my wedding coming up in June, and that's my first priority."

Yes, being married is one of the most rewarding things you can do with your life. But seriously... weddings ****ing suck. Especially when they interfere with the opportunity to become immortal. You're gussying shit up and running errands for your bitch for months on end all so you can see the glorious outcome of all that work in.... a ceremony. What the ****? We're not saying you can't get married Brodie. We're just telling you to get to Arrowhead's facilities and start putting in craptons of overtime hours starting now. Don't wait until June. You just lost 2-3 months of good worktime over your stupid wedding that will be over in one day, and all you have to remember it by is the leftover stress, shitty pictures, and a bill that will make your parents want to shoot you in the face.

If you're being looked to as an NFL QB, **** your wedding. You take off one week AT THE MOST between the end of the season and when you can start working out at facilities in March. Either your bitch does all the planning, or you get married in a courthouse. You don't touch that shit. You concentrate on football. Because you're a goddamn QB.

**DeezNutz** · 05-12-2014, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

People want to get rid of Daniel because he is due 8 million the next 2 years.

If a vet backup from a WCO shakes loose, I'd love to go into next year with a cheap vet and Aaron Murray as the 2 and 3.

His cap hit in 2015 is 4.8 million.

This will be his last year in KC, anyway.

I don't think Bray offers anything to this offense unless he has utilized every minute of this offseason to hone his skills and develop a lot of skills that seemed completely non existent.

The Chiefs save $1M against the cap to cut him this season, correct? If that's correct, there's almost zero reason to cut him this year.

Next year, which is completely irrelevant at this point, he's gone. Murray will likely be here. If he shows signs, he might be the #2. If he doesn't, he'll have one more year to develop behind a vet signed (I hope) on the cheap to be the primary backup.

Hell, the Chiefs will likely try to draft over the top of Murray next year, too, if he drinks from the dick sock Stanzi style.

**RealSNR** · 05-12-2014, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

If Murray was actually any good with starting potential, teams would not pass on him all the way until the 5th round regardless of whether or not he got injured last year. He's a freaken QB who wasn't very mobile in the first place anyways, his ACL injury, if it dropped him at all, would have hurt him by maybe 1 round. Murray is a career backup, not a future star.

Thanks for your input, Carl Peterson.

mcaj22 · 05-12-2014, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

The only extension they will give him will be a reasonable one.

They can keep him in KC the next 3 years for a total of 44 million by tagging him twice after this year.

you have only one franchise tag and we have two players to give it to: Alex Smith and Justin Houston.

If Alex Smith gets locked up first, your entire Aaron Murray is the future then has a huge roadblock in it.

If Houston gets the extension first, then your Murray theory is sound. It's basically a race for the first domino to fall.

If neither get extended by the time the season starts, the Chiefs are ****ed.

**DeezNutz** · 05-12-2014, 10:43 PM

Where is the Dane bat light? There are a lot of mothers who need to be ****ed in this thread.

Holla at Sauto when you see him in the street.

**Tribal Warfare** · 05-12-2014, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

If there's one thing I learned from Tomahawk and Tribal Warfare's ultra-creepy Bray stalker thread, it's that Bray has an overinflated ego that loves to soothe itself by relentlessly posting on instagram and impressing his douchebag friends from high school and college. His obsession with his upcoming marriage made me want to barf.

That reminded me exactly of Brodie Croyle, how when Trent Green got traded and the media asked Croyle about the possibility of taking over as starting QB, he responded with something like, "I'm not thinking about that right now. I've got my wedding coming up in June, and that's my first priority."

Yes, being married is one of the most rewarding things you can do with your life. But seriously... weddings ****ing suck. Especially when they interfere with the opportunity to become immortal. You're gussying shit up and running errands for your bitch for months on end all so you can see the glorious outcome of all that work in.... a ceremony. What the ****? We're not saying you can't get married Brodie. We're just telling you to get to Arrowhead's facilities and start putting in craptons of overtime hours starting now. Don't wait until June. You just lost 2-3 months of good worktime over your stupid wedding that will be over in one day, and all you have to remember it by is the leftover stress, shitty pictures, and a bill that will make your parents want to shoot you in the face.

If you're being looked to as an NFL QB, **** your wedding. You take off one week AT THE MOST between the end of the season and when you can start working out at facilities in March. Either your bitch does all the planning, or you get married in a courthouse. You don't touch that shit. You concentrate on football. Because you're a goddamn QB.

LOL, I was messing around with that shit

If you want to take it seriously, then I can't help you

**BossChief** · 05-12-2014, 10:45 PM

I agree, SNR.

If you want a chance to be a starting quarterback in the nfl, it's not just a full time job..it's an 80 hour a week career.

You need to get to the facility the same time as your coaches do and when you leave you need to have film with you and watch film 1-3 hours per night on your own time...with teammates. When you aren't doing tat, you need to be spending a lot of time with your OL building chemistry...then sending a lot of time with your receivers on the fields to develop chemistry.

Being a successful NFL QB has a lot more to do with preparation than having a hot wife and being able to throw 70 yard passes.

**BossChief** · 05-12-2014, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

you have only one franchise tag and we have two players to give it to: Alex Smith and Justin Houston.

If Alex Smith gets locked up first, your entire Aaron Murray is the future then has a huge roadblock in it.

If Houston gets the extension first, then your Murray theory is sound. It's basically a race for the first domino to fall.

If neither get extended by the time the season starts, the Chiefs are ****ed.

After signing draft picks, they won't have more than 3 million left.

Neither guy is getting signed long term till next offseason.

**RealSNR** · 05-12-2014, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I agree, SNR.

If you want a chance to be a starting quarterback in the nfl, it's not just a full time job..it's an 80 hour a week career.

You need to get to the facility the same time as your coaches do and when you leave you need to have film with you and watch film 1-3 hours per night on your own time...with teammates. When you aren't doing tat, you need to be spending a lot of time with your OL building chemistry...then sending a lot of time with your receivers on the fields to develop chemistry.

Being a successful NFL QB has a lot more to do with preparation than having a hot wife and being able to throw 70 yard passes.

If I were a head coach, I'd make all my QBs marry mean and ugly women so they have extra motivation to stay away from home as much as possible.

Like, I'd pay Kate Gosselin to marry whichever guy I draft.

**RealSNR** · 05-12-2014, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

LOL, I was messing around with that shit

If you want to take it seriously, then I can't help you

I know you were. But the tweets and instagrams nevertheless revealed that Tyler Bray is too much of an airhead and a douchebag to ever put his arm talent to good use in the pros

05-12-2014, 08:48 PM
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1914088	LNBS: Aaron Murray will be our Nick Foles I think both guys waited a year too long to enter the draft. If Nick Foles had come out after his junior year, he would have had a chance to be a first round pick. If Aaron Murray came out last year, he would have, too. Heck, Tony Dungy said on espn last year that he would take Aaron Murray first overall if he had come out. I know some here have said the guy won't ever have a chance to start, but I really think the kid can do everything Alex Smith did last year and then some, if given the chance.
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05-12-2014, 10:27 PM	#62
OldSchool MVP Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10035212	If Murray was actually any good with starting potential, teams would not pass on him all the way until the 5th round regardless of whether or not he got injured last year. He's a freaken QB who wasn't very mobile in the first place anyways, his ACL injury, if it dropped him at all, would have hurt him by maybe 1 round. Murray is a career backup, not a future star.
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RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $2400208	If there's one thing I learned from Tomahawk and Tribal Warfare's ultra-creepy Bray stalker thread, it's that Bray has an overinflated ego that loves to soothe itself by relentlessly posting on instagram and impressing his douchebag friends from high school and college. His obsession with his upcoming marriage made me want to barf. That reminded me exactly of Brodie Croyle, how when Trent Green got traded and the media asked Croyle about the possibility of taking over as starting QB, he responded with something like, "I'm not thinking about that right now. I've got my wedding coming up in June, and that's my first priority." Yes, being married is one of the most rewarding things you can do with your life. But seriously... weddings **ing suck. Especially when they interfere with the opportunity to become immortal. You're gussying shit up and running errands for your bitch for months on end all so you can see the glorious outcome of all that work in.... a ceremony. What the ? We're not saying you can't get married Brodie. We're just telling you to get to Arrowhead's facilities and start putting in craptons of overtime hours starting now. Don't wait until June. You just lost 2-3 months of good worktime over your stupid wedding that will be over in one day, and all you have to remember it by is the leftover stress, shitty pictures, and a bill that will make your parents want to shoot you in the face. If you're being looked to as an NFL QB, ** your wedding. You take off one week AT THE MOST between the end of the season and when you can start working out at facilities in March. Either your bitch does all the planning, or you get married in a courthouse. You don't touch that shit. You concentrate on football. Because you're a goddamn QB.
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05-12-2014, 10:45 PM	#72
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1914088	I agree, SNR. If you want a chance to be a starting quarterback in the nfl, it's not just a full time job..it's an 80 hour a week career. You need to get to the facility the same time as your coaches do and when you leave you need to have film with you and watch film 1-3 hours per night on your own time...with teammates. When you aren't doing tat, you need to be spending a lot of time with your OL building chemistry...then sending a lot of time with your receivers on the fields to develop chemistry. Being a successful NFL QB has a lot more to do with preparation than having a hot wife and being able to throw 70 yard passes. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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