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Old 05-10-2014, 10:16 PM  
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The Chiefs had pressing needs after a rough free agency, and they still have massive questions on the offensive line and at wide receiver. Dee Ford is a nice long-term gamble, but should start his career as a part-time player. Third-round cornerback Phillip Gaines seems more like a developmental prospect. Fourth-round RB/WR/return/cornerback/football player De'Anthony Thomas is a wild card. This was a draft in which the Chiefs needed some instant-impact players, and it's hard to see them here.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...y-draft-grades

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Old 05-11-2014, 06:18 AM   #76
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Where do people think Rosenthal is wrong? Here's his list:

Rough free agency

Ford - nice long term gamble, but should be a PTPer at first

Gaines - developmental prospect

Thomas - wild card

Seeming dearth of immediate impact players from draft

OL and WR still major questions
Seeming dearth of impact players from draft......your a Pioli/cassel cumsucking douchebag.

Thomas - wild card?????

Thomas will have a better rookie year than McCluster and if healthy his upside is much higher than people realize. Please come back later for a serving of Black Mamba.
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Old 05-11-2014, 06:21 AM   #77
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I give them the grade I give every team after every draft: incomplete
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Old 05-11-2014, 06:27 AM   #78
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Every year, the teams with multiple first round picks are deemed winners. Wow. The insight is incredible.
Yep, I said it last night.

We were going to be hard pressed to "kill it" in this draft in most people's eyes when we were down picks, it's simple mathematics.

I think we did just fine with the resources we had at hand.
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Old 05-11-2014, 06:27 AM   #79
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Espn guys gave us B-.
They're delusional.
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Old 05-11-2014, 06:30 AM   #80
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This draft was about replacing bloated contracts. It's as simple as that. The cuts next year are going to be many......Hali, Flowers, Daniel, Fasano, DeVito.....
Yes no question this is the bottom line. I do think you can spin this positively. We had a great season. Were it not for very untimely injuries I believe they made a great effort and we were serious contenders. I have thought about the FA losses and frankly Dexter was the only one that bothered me. This team needs field position difference makers. You don't go out and get a SP coach like we did and not give him somebody to work with. Perhaps Thomas will deliver but I think Dexter would have been better. We shall see.
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Old 05-11-2014, 06:37 AM   #81
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But I'm guessing they also don't see OL has a glaring need either or they would have done something about it.

On the WR topic, remember back to Philly. It was ALWAYS a yearly discussion topic until TO and later into Reid's tenure. Every year people were talking about the WR situation.

I think Andy Reid and John Dorsey view WRs VERY differently than a lot of people.
Yep, Reid almost never required a bona fide stud at receiver to make his offenses go, he loves to get production from his backs and tight ends every bit as much if not more than receivers.

And even though our receiver group are decidedly unglamorous, they helped us average 35 ppg the last six games as everyone started to find their comfort level in a new offense.

I wanted a new hotshot, but I can understand why Dorsey/Reid maybe didn't put as much priority on it as fans did... this scrap pile of guys actually produced decently.
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Old 05-11-2014, 06:40 AM   #82
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LAWL SOME PEOPLE HAVE OPINIONS ON A FOOTBALL MESSAGE BOARD THAT'S FUNNY Y DONT' THEY BECOME GMS AND HEAD COACHES LAWL OH CHIEFS PLANET.

Worst part about the draft is listening to the dumb****s bash this place. The "board experts" are the reason this forum stays in place and has entertainment value. If it were up to ****faces like Deberg, all anybody would ever say is, "I like da Chiefs. Mmhmm. We'll see how good they can be this year. Maybe they'll make the playoffs."
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Old 05-11-2014, 06:42 AM   #83
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Aw man, that's a mean swipe at DeBerg, he's a nice guy.
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Old 05-11-2014, 06:46 AM   #84
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Aw man, that's a mean swipe at DeBerg, he's a nice guy.
He's a nice guy, but he's also really really boring. And all he ever does is make shitty comments about the "board experts"

If he would get out there and actually write some football opinions in his posts and try to sell them to people, I wouldn't have a problem. But he never does. He's a more level-headed version of frazod.
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:12 AM   #85
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If draft grades lead to Championships, Cleveland would have been a dynasty by now.


"Experts"? Give me a ****ing break.
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:37 AM   #86
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This is so ****ing stupid.

Grade a draft by whether you got good players, not by whether you fill in immediate needs. So if this team drafted three starting offensive linemen this would be a great draft?
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:39 AM   #87
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if the media is bored then why not go ahead and grade 2011 draft, there is no way no how you can grade a draft immediately after its over
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:41 AM   #88
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That's the name of the game in the NFL to be honest. ABR. Always Be Replacing. Always
No, that is nt true.

That only applies to the teams that consistently field contenders.

Mediocre teams, and teams that are worse than mediocre, are teams that need to be looking for players to fill needs.

I don't hate this draft and won't complain about the direction, because it does have the potential to pay dividends in the next few years.

However, a mediocre team that has holes almost certainly can find players that fill the holes in their roster that have an equal value to players that don't fill immediate needs.
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:42 AM   #89
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Wrong , our biggest need was addressed with a DE and CB
Wrong on 2 points.

Our biggest need was ignored altogether, and we didn't draft a DE in this scheme.
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:43 AM   #90
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The draft is over and Avery or Hemmingway are still the projected starting WR opposite Bowe.

That is a big part of why the Chiefs draft is getting bad reviews.

The team's biggest need and they did nothing to address it.
YEP, you are correct, our dang WR's gave up all those second half points to INDY in the playoff game, dang them!
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