Chiefs hire Daboll

[Urc Burry]

Per Adam Schefter twitter

[Epic Fail 007]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

i really wouldn't give a shit about daboll if I didn't think his hiring was largely about keeping cassel...

Thats why I think everyones upset.But whos to say at this point in the offseason hes going to be the starter??Smart people are not going to let their job security ride on him.

[Chiefnj2]

Very uninspiring hire. Tough to tell since he hasn't been with a team with a lot of talent.

[58kcfan89]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

i really wouldn't give a shit about daboll if I didn't think his hiring was largely about keeping cassel...

Yep. My friends keep asking my opinion of the OC search & about possible candidates. My reply has always been something along the lines of "It won't matter when Cassel's the unquestioned starter in Training Camp."

I don't know what it's gunna take to get Pioli fired or at least for him to make a drastic change at the QB position (I don't consider going from Cassel to Orton that drastic, seeing as how you can't win a championship with either of them). Probably a lot. But I'm willing to sit through a 4-12 season or 2 to make it happen.

[Epic Fail 007]

Screw pioli hes not the coach.A coach with any balls would tell him Im not starting Cassel.At this point piolis not or can`t fire them over that.Or pioli would be fired.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

You really that excited to see Dwayne Bowe in New England next season?

No.

Sadly, I am hopefull we push to sign Orton. Obviously, this will show us how aggressive we may be in addressing the QB position in the draft...

As for Bowe...I'm not worried about him leaving. NE of all teams wouldn't be able to afford him. They are going to have enough trouble keeping their FA in-house.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Hiring Daboll just another pat move by the Chiefs

Hiring Daboll, one more link to New England, isn’t exactly a bold statement by Chiefs.


By SAM MELLINGER

The Kansas City Star


NDIANAPOLIS -- So that’s it, huh?

Brian Daboll, recently replaced by the Dolphins, is the Chiefs’ new offensive coordinator. To get here, to the Super Bowl, the Chiefs are trusting a man whose best offense in three years as a coordinator ranked 22nd.

I’ll pause so you can contain your excitement.

Turns out the hire Chiefs fans have waited on for a month spent seven seasons with the Patriots. I’ll pause again so you can contain your surprise.

Honest question: Would you be more excited for Daboll or Josh McDaniels?

Look, this might be a good hire. Daboll is creative. Organized. Energetic. The players in Miami mostly liked him and the Dolphins got better as the season went on, ranking 11th in points over the last nine games as Daboll figured out better ways to utilize Reggie Bush’s talents and manage Matt Moore’s limitations.

This might also be a bad hire. Browns quarterback Colt McCoy, who played his rookie season under Daboll in Cleveland, said he sometimes had to take his helmet off to call a play in the huddle because even his teammates could hear Daboll yelling through the headset. Daboll’s teams have finished 32nd, 29th and 22nd in offense.

Judging coaching hires immediately is by definition a guessing game, like deciding whether a woman would make a good girlfriend based on her shirt color.

So maybe this is a good hire, maybe it’s bad, but here is what it definitely is not: bold.

In choosing an old New England co-worker, new head coach Romeo Crennel followed the established Scott Pioli pattern of valuing familiarity above inspiration.

Daboll was replaced in Miami by Mike Sherman after Joe Philbin took over as head coach. The Chiefs will be Daboll’s fourth team in five years, and his ties to New England are deep enough that the league interviewed him twice during Spygate.

The Chiefs went outside the organization only in technical terms. This is more of the New England good ol’ boy network, which so far has only worked in New England.

When it comes to players, Pioli often talks about the importance and value of knowing the guys on his own team better than anyone else. That’s why his most expensive and impactful personnel moves have been trading for Matt Cassel (who Pioli drafted and watched up close in New England) and signing many of the Chiefs’ own emerging stars to long-term extensions.

The same logic would apply to coaches, and you have to wonder if the Chiefs feel exposed after their most important outside-the-Belichick-family hire blew up when Pioli fired Todd Haley.

If so, the feeling is understandable, but there is a long-held belief by many executives across sports that above all else you have to continue being aggressive even after failures because otherwise you are sure to fail.

The Chiefs are in much better shape on the field now than three years ago — it’s easy to forget they should be the AFC West favorites this season — but one of Pioli’s biggest shortcomings has been an unwillingness to be aggressive.

That was never more obvious than after the lockout ended, and an entire offseason’s worth of activity essentially condensed into a few weeks. The Chiefs were mostly inactive.

Waiting until now to hire a coordinator from the family is another sign of passiveness.

None of this is necessarily damning, of course, especially in the instantaneous judging of a coaching hire. But what makes this move tough to get behind is that there is nothing obvious in Daboll’s track record to make you think he’d be a good coordinator for the Chiefs, other than the fact that he spent time in New England with Crennel and Pioli.

At least on the surface, this is familiarity for familiarity’s sake, made worse by the possibility that the reputation of the Chiefs’ working environment limited their other options.

In that, the Chiefs find themselves in a strange and troubling spot: hiring a coach for a shared common history, but also being an organization that says it values continuity while bringing in a nomadic guy to be their fourth (fifth, if you count Chan Gailey’s cameo) offensive coordinator in four seasons.

Another unsettling point: Daboll’s hire could be an indication that the Chiefs remain in a monogamous relationship with Cassel. Daboll’s last two seasons as wide receivers coach in New England were Cassel’s first two seasons as the Patriots’ backup quarterback.

In recent days, Crennel and Pioli indicated they’d be aggressive in creating better competition for Cassel, but NFL reality is that the coach and GM may not feel they have the time or inclination to start over.

Many of the Chiefs’ best players — Jamaal Charles, Tamba Hali, Derrick Johnson and Dwayne Bowe, among others — generally have about three seasons remaining of what you’d expect to be their best years.

Crennel is working on a three-year contract, and if he doesn’t win, you wouldn’t expect Pioli to hire the next head coach.

So in that way, we won’t have to wait long to make the final judgment about a hire that right now looks too forced and familiar to be excited about.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/02/04...#storylink=cpy

[Chiefnj2]

Of course Daboll wants Matt Cassel. How many QB's are willing to fight an entire defense after a late cheap shot to a running back? That's what I thought - none. Not Peyton Manning. 'Oh, my neck nerve, I can't push".

[Fritz88]

I am very thankful we announced this after the Superbowl to avoid taking any national spotlight from the Giants.
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[Hammock Parties]

Why is Mellinger such a pussy.

Just call Pioli out, everyone can see the light at the end of the tunnel, and it's a burning tree.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Do ya think Clark reads the Star...?

Oh wait, he lives in Dallas.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by Han Solo

Why is Mellinger such a pussy.

Just call Pioli out, everyone can see the light at the end of the tunnel, and it's a burning tree.

I felt he was calling him out with the sarcasm.

Let alone referencing this is likely his [Pioli] final hire as a GM if they don't win soon.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by eric007

Thats why I think everyones upset.But whos to say at this point in the offseason hes going to be the starter??Smart people are not going to let their job security ride on him.

which must mean pioli is stupid, because he's banked his entire credibility on Cassel....

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Pioli going into the 4th year of his 5-year contract; shit's about to get real...

[Agent V]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Of course Daboll wants Matt Cassel. How many QB's are willing to fight an entire defense after a late cheap shot to a running back? That's what I thought - none. Not Peyton Manning. 'Oh, my neck nerve, I can't push".

Omg so much heart!

[MOhillbilly]

Really starting to get ****in pissed. I don't wanna hate this club but its ****in close. Mother****ers.