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**Tribal Warfare** · 07-05-2013, 11:21 PM

Jaworski rates Chiefs QB at No. 20 among NFL starters

The Kansas City Star
Former NFL quarterback-turned-broadcaster Ron Jaworski ranks new Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith No. 20 among the NFL's 32 starting quarterbacks.

That's according to Jaworski's ratings on ESPN's MediaZone site, transcribed from his three-minute daily segments dubbed "Jaws' QB Countdown" on SportsCenter and NFL Live.

Smith, of course, was acquired in a trade from San Francisco this offseason, and has yet to throw a pass in Kansas City (aside from OTAs, that is).

Here are some excerpts from Jaworski's evaluation of Smith:

“A year ago, Smith was coming off his best season in the NFL, having led the 49ers to the NFC Championship. This year, he’s the starting quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs. It was a great move by (Chiefs coach) Andy Reid to acquire Smith.

“The defining element of Smith’s play is efficiency. He executes the offense the way it’s designed, and he makes very few mistakes. Last season – for the second year in a row – he was exceptional on first down. In 2012 he led the NFL in first-down passing, with a quarterback rating of 119. Much of it came off play-action, or in the case of the 49ers, hard run-action out of base personnel. There was no better play-action quarterback last season than Smith. He had a quarterback rating of over 132.

“Smith has been outstanding out of multiple tight end personnel over the last couple of seasons. No quarterback has thrown the ball more with three tight ends on the field. You don’t see that very often in today’s NFL.

“This play was beautifully designed with all three tight ends to the same side. First, look at the impact of the run-action on the two linebackers and the safety. This was hard run-action. Then you see that Delanie Walker’s vertical route occupied the corner. That left Vernon Davis matched on a safety, a safety that initially reacted to run. He had no chance on Davis’ wheel route.

“One area Smith improved in 2012 was in the pre-snap phase of the game. He was much better at the line of scrimmage checking and audibling.

“It will be interesting to see what Andy Reid does in Kansas City. Don’t be surprised if he turns Smith loose a little bit and features an up-tempo offense with an emphasis on quick throws. Remember, Alex Smith played for Urban Meyer at Utah.”

Other QB's that Jaworski has analyzed so far:

No. 32 Matt Flynn

No. 31 Jake Locker

No. 30 Kevin Kolb

No. 29 Chad Henne

No. 28 Mark Sanchez

No. 27 Christian Ponder

No. 26 Brandon Weeden

No. 25 Michael Vick

No. 24 Ryan Tannehill

No. 23 Carson Palmer

No. 22 Sam Bradford

No. 21 Josh Freeman

Pasta Little Brioni · 07-13-2013, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

30 passes per game is below league average. The average across the league was 35 passes per game.

Alex is 5-13 when he throws at least 35 times.

8 one and dones can Jughead make it 9?

RunKC · 07-15-2013, 04:38 PM

Jesus Jaws is losing credibility by the day. Matt Schaub at 9 over Luck, Wilson and RG3? Really?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-15-2013, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Jesus Jaws is losing credibility by the day. Matt Schaub at 9 over Luck, Wilson and RG3? Really?

Not advocating for Schaub specifically, but he's right in not putting rookie QB's in the Top 10.

When they prove they can play at a high level year after year, by all means. Personally, I don't think they should be quite as high as they are.

Chris Meck · 07-15-2013, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

There are two diiferent lines of thought here.
To preface those, I agree that they aren't concerned with the decisions that previous regimes have made.

That said, the decision to trade for one of two possible reasons.
They believe he can lead this team to a SB, or they simply wanted to stop the bleeding and bring in a QB that simply won't lose games.

Either way, I question the decision.
If it's because they have SB aspirations, then I question their evaluation.
Maybe they prove me wrong, but I just don't see a SB QB.

If they just brought him in to simply stop the bleeding, they could have brought in a cheaper alternative.

Either, unless Smith proves me wrong about his SB potential, they invested too much.

I think there's a 3rd line of thought here. It's that you do whatever is in your power to improve this team as much as you possibly can right now, for 2013 because if 2013 sucks you may not get a 2014. Get better every day, every week, every month, and every year and you'll be in good shape.
Can A. Smith take this team to the SB? Maybe. I'm not sure they don't get as far with him as they did with Kaepernick, it just would've looked a little different. I think Reid and Dorsey believe that they can accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative with him, and we'll have to see how it plays out.

Sandy Vagina · 07-15-2013, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I think there's a 3rd line of thought here. It's that you do whatever is in your power to improve this team as much as you possibly can right now, for 2013 because if 2013 sucks you may not get a 2014. Get better every day, every week, every month, and every year and you'll be in good shape.
Can A. Smith take this team to the SB? Maybe. I'm not sure they don't get as far with him as they did with Kaepernick, it just would've looked a little different. I think Reid and Dorsey believe that they can accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative with him, and we'll have to see how it plays out.

Good post.. very well said.

Discuss Thrower · 07-15-2013, 06:51 PM

I think KC's window for the post season is no more than 3 years..

Tombstone RJ · 07-15-2013, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

And before last college football season, the 2013 QB class was supposed to be good too. Sorry, none of those names excite me right now. We'll see after the college season plays out I guess.

really, who said that?

MOhillbilly · 07-15-2013, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

I think KC's window for the post season is no more than 3 years..

Snicker

houstonwhodat · 07-15-2013, 09:15 PM

Where all da white women at?

**ptlyon** · 07-15-2013, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by houstonwhodat

Where all da white women at?

Mongo don't know. Mongo only pawn in the chess game of life.

**Mav** · 07-15-2013, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

And before last college football season, the 2013 QB class was supposed to be good too. Sorry, none of those names excite me right now. We'll see after the college season plays out I guess.

I slightly disagree. Matt Barkley was supposed to be he number one overall pick no questions asked. Other than him, there wasn't supposed to be much at all.

**Mav** · 07-15-2013, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

And I'll say it again:

Wrong.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, on all counts WRONG.

And to your list:

Garbage, garbage, garbage, garbage, oh my sweet Jesus piles of garbage.

Goddamn you're just a fool.

you, the guy who couldn't dangle from Geno Smiths pecker hard enough, doesn't even get excited by the prospect of Teddy Bridgewater? That's stunning to me.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-15-2013, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

you, the guy who couldn't dangle from Geno Smiths pecker hard enough, doesn't even get excited by the prospect of Teddy Bridgewater? That's stunning to me.

2014 Class = Shite.

**Mav** · 07-15-2013, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

This list is inferior to the 2013 draftables list at this time last year. Who knows how it will work out and what they will latch on to and love. I'm sure it will receive less hate than the 2013 class, though, because it will not be compared to the 2012 QB class.

Bridgewater is the only guy in there that I have any real interest in, and the odds he is around when the Chiefs pick are slim and none (unless he is getting beaten up in the eval period, in which case he won't be good enough 'value' for the Chiefs to 'reach' on).

Logan Thomas is literal garbage.

Murray is undersized but at least smart. He's not a franchise QB, but I could see him being a solid game manager sort.

Boyd, Manziel and Miller are all great running threats, but have even less sophisticated passing experience than the spread guys who got beat up for their lack of relevant passing experience THIS draft cycle. I can't see any of them succeeding in an NFL attack.

Renner... meh.

You left out everyone's favorite 2014 guy, David Fales.

Logan Thomas, to me, is going to have the same kind of rise that Ej Manuel had. I thought he was terrible. And he ends up being the first guy taken. If he has a bounce back year, he will be a big time prospect. Also, I don't know how you can say that Tahj Boyd isn't a throwing threat. Other than being kind of short, he is probably the best passer of those three.

And on a side note, I doubt any of you have even seen Renner play.

**Mav** · 07-15-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

2014 Class = Shite.

Teddy Bridgewater > Geno Smith lol

Im poking the bear.

07-05-2013, 11:21 PM
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