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Old 06-10-2010, 06:48 AM   #5671
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Old 06-12-2010, 12:41 PM   #5672
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Danielson was reportedly fired last night. The story is that someone outside of WWE (connected to USA network? Mattel? Linda's campaign? I don't know...) complained about his choking of Justin Roberts with the necktie on Monday. It's probably not a work - everybody in the WWE front office top to bottom has purportedly been told that it's legit.

So less than a week after the most talked-about angle in a decade, they fire one of the key members of the heel stable they're trying to build, the only one that can actually wrestle, so they can maintain their "PG show" bullshit.

If this is the case, I'm done with WWE.

(I guess I'm done either way; it would be just as stupid if this is a work)
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Old 06-12-2010, 03:56 PM   #5673
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Maybe a work but if it isn't then its just stupid but if it is a work think about it micheal cole resting but then from behind bryan danielson come out and attack him then attack king then the nxt guys come out and give a great promo for the attack. it would rules.
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Old 06-12-2010, 05:28 PM   #5674
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Obviously a bullshit situation, but it sounds like they didnt have a choice. Meltzer says whoever was pissed off wanted a head on a stake.

You can blame them being PG, but go back to 2000 (obviously not PG yet) when Coke pulled out as a sponsor. What did they do? They cleaned up the show, got rid of Godfather and Val Venis (the characters), and stopped doing anything edgy.

Vince talked tough and made fun of the Parents group with Steven Richards and all that, but at the end of the day he had to kiss the asses of the sponsors and partners. Looks like the same thing here.

Meltzer also says they want to bring Danielson back when this blows over, so hopefully thats soon.
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Old 06-12-2010, 06:38 PM   #5675
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The real bullshit is that Danielson gets to pay the price, when odds are everything he did was scripted. And nobody on the production team is apparently in any trouble. The producer is ultimately the guy that put it on the air, but Kevin Dunn's apparently fine.

(Which is also the argument for it being a work).

And yeah, it may be like the Matt Hardy "firing" a few years back. But whatever it is, it's about 110% stupid to do it inside of a week of the beatdown.

(p.s. why wasn't Heath Slater fired for choking Cena with the ring rope?)

I guess Monday will be the answer. Whether or not he's mysteriously removed from all the video of the angle.

And if it is a work, why fire just him, and not the entire NXT crew.
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Old 06-12-2010, 06:44 PM   #5676
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Ditch said it was specifically because of the necktie or something. Zero tolerance because of the Benoit murders. Still may turn out to be a work.
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Old 06-12-2010, 09:59 PM   #5677
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It's a day old now, but I just listened to Dave Meltzer's audio update and he literally said the firing was forced upon WWE. He also made reference to another ongoing situation (a complaint, I guess) involving a much bigger star that's apparently even dumber than this incident is.

It should be interesting to see who's lobbing these complaints. And how long Vince puts up with it.

But what a bunch of shit. Who up and demands that a guy get fired like this? The balls of it. Which would be ironic if it's Mattel, with the lack of genitalia on their dolls and all.
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Old 06-13-2010, 08:51 PM   #5678
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John Cena's twitter from this afternoon (this is real, I just copied it myself - edited it together to make a coherent statement):
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I am very upset to hear about the release of bryan danielson. Social networks were formed so people would have a voice, and an opinon. I Know you all have your own, theories and whatnot. I respect that. I have never asked any of you to feel a certaint way about me. But Bryan left a lasting impression on the wwe universe in a very short time, and although it came at my expense, I agree with the majority Of you who are caught off guard by this choice. I know I'm not exactly appreciated by all, nor do I care to be, but I believe what I believe. I would like bryan to come back to the wwe. I would like to sign your petition to bring him back. I was taught to stand up for what I beileve in. I tried and failed, so I could Use some help. Tell me how to sign and I will. If for nothing else, to at least have a chance to have a match with him after what was done. I know that seems a bit more fair. Give me a chance to have a fair match with him, and give him yet another chance to prove that he does Belong with us. Sorry for the long message, I know I am probally way out of line, I am sorry if I have offended anyone. But like me or not That is what Hustle. Loyalty. And most importantly Respect means to me. Enjoy game 5.
Now I have no idea if he's in character or not, or if this is a work or not, but my guess is (still) that Danielson has been legitimately fired, and that Cena is breaking keyfabe (to a degree). Although who knows, until tomorrow night.

Either way, this is something I meant to say the other day before the "firing" went down: I've really started to become a fan of Cena over the last two weeks for some of what he's done. One week he does everything he can to push Evan Bourne. The next week he does a stretcher job to get over the NXT rookies. And I really respect that he was willing to do that. I'm not sure how many guys in his position would...
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Old 06-13-2010, 09:02 PM   #5679
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Old 06-13-2010, 09:03 PM   #5680
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I'm thinking its a work.

per Ditch "WWE is now mandating the use of twitter by all wrestlers in order to push storylines."
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Old 06-13-2010, 09:08 PM   #5681
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I'm not saying it's impossible that it's a work, but you'd think, in that case, that Cena would be more fire and brimstone out for revenge. Rather than saying he's upset by the firing and hoping they "bring him back so we can have a match and he can prove he belongs with us."

That's what I meant by reading as somewhat breaking kayfabe to me....

Unless now the idea is that Cena himself is going to jump to the NXT stable because he's so appalled by WWE's treatment of Danielson.

(Plus he did call him Danielson...wouldn't a story tweet use his WWE name?)

Either way, this is all so bizarre...
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Old 06-13-2010, 09:27 PM   #5682
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From a smackdown house show report:
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Punk beat on Kane most of the match, which actually made sense since each time he got some offense, one of the SES on the outside would cut him off. Kane ended up winning clean w/ a Chokeslam in the center. Punk was AWESOME here for two reasons... 1) when he entered the ring he cornered announcer Tony Chimmel, grabbed Tony's tie and held it while looking back and forth at the tie and Chimmel's face, talking in a VERY threatening manner...
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Old 06-14-2010, 01:55 AM   #5683
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Whether it's legitimate or not, it seems at this point like Dave by god Meltzer really doesn't have any idea what's happening. So credit to them for... something. I guess.
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Old 06-14-2010, 11:22 AM   #5684
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If the Danielson firing is indeed real, what utter horseshit that is. The rooks were most likely given the instruction to go down to ringside and wreak havoc. If the Justin Roberts thing wasn't written down in the script, it at least falls into the category of wreaking havoc and added to the scene of wanton destruction.

If TNA has a quarter of a brain (they probably don't), they bring Bryan in on day 90.000001 and put the belt on him. Then let him, Joe, AJ, Machine Guns, Nigel and the other good young talent take over the show and tear the house down. But of course they won't do that, they'll have him jobbing to Sharkboy or some bullshit.
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When I first turned on Raw tonight and heard his name get dropped in a promo, I thought it was a work. Than I watched the "wonderful" ending and became confused.

Choking someone with a tie= We gotta fire ya man
Reckless driving and attempted manslaughter= A'OK

Normally this would make me believe it is in fact a work, but Vince is insane enough to actually think this. I'm afraid it may be legitimate.
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