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Carlota69 · 02-07-2013, 09:16 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/07/us/lap...html?sr=fbmain

(CNN) -- A former Los Angeles police officer who police say has violently threatened his former colleagues shot at least two officers early Thursday, killing one, sparking a huge manhunt in Southern California, according to authorities.
Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, is also wanted in a double slaying Sunday in Irvine, California.
The California Highway Patrol issued an alert Thursday morning urging officers in several Southern California counties to be on the lookout for Dorner after the overnight shootings.
Two officers in Riverside were shot, one fatally, police there confirmed to CNN. CNN affiliate KTLA reported another officer was shot in Corona, California.
Irvine police identified Dorner on Wednesday as the suspect in the February 3 deaths of Keith Lawrence and Monica Quan in Irvine.
Dorner also has made violent threats against other Los Angeles police officers, the agency said Wednesday.
"I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty," Dorner allegedly wrote in a lengthy letter promising retribution against the department, where he worked from 2005 until 2008. An LAPD source provided the document to CNN.
The letter writer claimed he was terminated for reporting excessive force by a fellow officer, and said his attacks were retribution for his termination, as well as a culture of racism and violence he says continues within the department.
He called the attacks against police "a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name."
Los Angeles police warned people who encounter Dorner not to approach him, saying he is likely "armed and extremely dangerous."
"Our department is implementing all measures possible to ensure the safety of our LAPD personnel, their families and the Los Angeles community, and will continue to do so until Dorner is apprehended and all threats have been abated," police said in a statement.
CNN's Mallory Simon and Deanna Hackney contributed to this report.

KChiefer · 02-12-2013, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

I would have killed that ****er too.

And then planned to spend my life in jail
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But but but that guy had a right to a trial.

lcarus · 02-12-2013, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Lol. This is America, innocent until proven guilty. Right to a fair trial.

That didn't happen in this instance
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Are you kinda sorta forgetting he shot 2 cops during this cabin standoff?

Brock · 02-12-2013, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Aside from the whole legal system thing, which is an important argument... I think you have to backtrack ever farther. As far as I can tell, they all act like they haven't even contacted him. So while it's 99% likely it's him, they didn't confirm that, or if he had hostages.

While you'd like to assume the best here, given how trigger happy everyone has been in the last week you have to ask those questions.

Yup. It's amazing the amount of slack these cops are being given in the face of absolute incompetence over the last week.

Sorter · 02-12-2013, 07:36 PM

http://audio4.radioreference.com/71138770.mp3

I heard something about "departed" ...

HoneyBadger · 02-12-2013, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ghak99

I'm not cool with them burning it down either, assuming they lit it.

It was well stated in an above post but, It's pretty third worldish chicken shit tactics if you ask me. This isn't Mexico.

It's pretty smart. Ended this shit as fast as possible.

**SAUTO** · 02-12-2013, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking

When he puts his ****ing gun down he can argue his innocence.

after what the lapd has done in the past week how could he put the guns down even if he wanted to?

They shot up two Asian ladies.

Something is wrong here
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unlurking · 02-12-2013, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer

But but but that guy had a right to a trial.

Only if they're not HIS kids.

NJChiefsFan · 02-12-2013, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

And this is not how people are supposed to live. Who gives a shit how this guy goes out, as long as he is dead.

Because the argument isn't even about this guy. It's about a massive principle that our society is built on. There are situations where innocent people are assumed to be guilty. Doing something that implies guilt like running doesn't always mean the person committed the crime.

Don't get me wrong I am not saying this guy is innocent. But it's not about him. It's about doing the legal thing 100% of the time so it never costs somebody who is innocent. The justice system is there so decisions are made without emotion or prejudice people. You are saying it's cool that people both prejudice and emotional make a decision on how this guy should go out.

If someone else gets hurt due to this it's horrible and I will be very upset to hear it. But there are things that need defending no matter what, and right by trial is one of them. By risking their lives, the police are essentially fighting for that right. This isn't about this guy, its about our way as a justice system. No matter what the circumstances that shouldn't change.

tk13 · 02-12-2013, 07:37 PM

AP is reporting that no one ever tried to emerge from the cabin.

HoneyBadger · 02-12-2013, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Yup. It's amazing the amount of slack these cops are being given in the face of absolute incompetence over the last week.

Some people are shitty at their job, I'm sure you know (if you work). But I think overall the police are trying to do the right thing in most cases.

**SAUTO** · 02-12-2013, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

Are you kinda sorta forgetting he shot 2 cops during this cabin standoff?

**** no I'm not.

At you forgetting the cops shot up a, couple of innocent Asian ladies delivering newspapers while trying to kill this guy?
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unlurking · 02-12-2013, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Yup. It's amazing the amount of slack these cops are being given in the face of absolute incompetence over the last week.

Every officer involved with those shootings should be fired and never allowed to work LE again. But sooner or later the criminal has to take some responsibility here.

KChiefer · 02-12-2013, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ghak99

I'm not cool with them burning it down either, assuming they lit it.

It was well stated in an above post but, It's pretty third worldish chicken shit tactics if you ask me. This isn't Mexico.

You know how they got John Wilkes Booth?

**pr_capone** · 02-12-2013, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer

But but but that guy had a right to a trial.

What he would do as an individual... and what is good and right in the eyes of the law are two very different things. saying that I recognize the law doesn't preclude me from deciding to break it.

**SAUTO** · 02-12-2013, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer

But but but that guy had a right to a trial.

True. Emotion takes over at that point. But I'M NOT A SWORN OFFICER OF THE LAW. You know someone we count on to be better than us. Someone we count on to uphold our justice system
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02-07-2013, 09:16 AM
Carlota69 MVP Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Las Vegas Casino cash: $9925282	Former LAPD officer on rampage in So Cal http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/07/us/lap...html?sr=fbmain (CNN) -- A former Los Angeles police officer who police say has violently threatened his former colleagues shot at least two officers early Thursday, killing one, sparking a huge manhunt in Southern California, according to authorities. Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, is also wanted in a double slaying Sunday in Irvine, California. The California Highway Patrol issued an alert Thursday morning urging officers in several Southern California counties to be on the lookout for Dorner after the overnight shootings. Two officers in Riverside were shot, one fatally, police there confirmed to CNN. CNN affiliate KTLA reported another officer was shot in Corona, California. Irvine police identified Dorner on Wednesday as the suspect in the February 3 deaths of Keith Lawrence and Monica Quan in Irvine. Dorner also has made violent threats against other Los Angeles police officers, the agency said Wednesday. "I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty," Dorner allegedly wrote in a lengthy letter promising retribution against the department, where he worked from 2005 until 2008. An LAPD source provided the document to CNN. The letter writer claimed he was terminated for reporting excessive force by a fellow officer, and said his attacks were retribution for his termination, as well as a culture of racism and violence he says continues within the department. He called the attacks against police "a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name." Los Angeles police warned people who encounter Dorner not to approach him, saying he is likely "armed and extremely dangerous." "Our department is implementing all measures possible to ensure the safety of our LAPD personnel, their families and the Los Angeles community, and will continue to do so until Dorner is apprehended and all threats have been abated," police said in a statement. CNN's Mallory Simon and Deanna Hackney contributed to this report.
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