Ogden Pro Bowler?

KingPriest2 · 09-11-2005, 09:00 PM

Why is he a pro bowler? He sucks against big name pass rushers.

Yes the Ravens are a good running team but they cannot pass.

Oggen is a average pass blocker.

There is no way he should be this overhyped

HolmeZz · 09-11-2005, 09:01 PM

Freeney's always owned him.

schneider221 · 09-11-2005, 09:03 PM

ogden gets the attention but cant stop freeney
roaf gets some attention but completely dominates freeney, didnt he have like 3 or 4 tackels and no sacks in the 2 games against the colts

Pitt Gorilla · 09-11-2005, 09:18 PM

The entire Ravens line has been owned for much of the game.

whoman69 · 09-11-2005, 10:28 PM

Roaf gets a little more help from his QB.

ChiefsCountry · 09-11-2005, 10:31 PM

Freeney makes alot of tackles look stupid.

Spicy McHaggis · 09-11-2005, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Freeney makes alot of tackles look stupid.

Not Roaf.

And Freeney always makes Ogden his bitch.

chagrin · 09-12-2005, 07:36 AM

Freeney plays well against him, no doubt but you must not have been watching him the other years of his career, he is a very good lineman. Could be this guy just gets punked by Freeney, doesn't mean he sucks. And who says Roaf hasn't gotten any respect? It's well known around the league that Willie Roaf rocks, I hear nothing but good about him.

Amnorix · 09-12-2005, 08:17 AM

I saw something just the other day about this. Freeney had like 2 of the 3 sacks Ogden allowed ALL of last year.

The article also had a "sacks allowed" versus years played by Ogden, and it was a very low number of sacks.

Can't remember the exact numbers, unfortunately.

KingPriest2 · 09-12-2005, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

I saw something just the other day about this. Freeney had like 2 of the 3 sacks Ogden allowed ALL of last year.

The article also had a "sacks allowed" versus years played by Ogden, and it was a very low number of sacks.

Can't remember the exact numbers, unfortunately.

That is becasue the Ravens do not pass the ball.

The Ravens cannot pass the ball so hence the fewer oppt for sacks.

beavis · 09-12-2005, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by KingPriest2

That is becasue the Ravens do not pass the ball.

The Ravens cannot pass the ball so hence the fewer oppt for sacks.

Baltimore Passing
C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT
A. Wright 19/31 214 6.9 1 2
K. Boller 15/23 141 6.1 0 1
Team 34/54 355 6.0 1 3

KingPriest2 · 09-12-2005, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by beavis

Baltimore Passing
C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT
A. Wright 19/31 214 6.9 1 2
K. Boller 15/23 141 6.1 0 1
Team 34/54 355 6.0 1 3

2004
Team Offense
|---------- PASSING -----------||----- RUSHING -----| TOTAL
CMP ATT YD YPA TD INT ATT YD YPA TD YD
258 466 2559 5.49 13 11 491 2063 4.20 11 4622
NFL rank ---> 28 26 32 32 30 6 8 9 15 18 31

2003
Team Offense
|---------- PASSING -----------||----- RUSHING -----| TOTAL
CMP ATT YD YPA TD INT ATT YD YPA TD YD
218 414 2517 6.08 16 19 553 2669 4.83 18 5186
NFL rank ---> 32 32 32 27 27 23 1 1 5 6 20

2002
Team Offense
|---------- PASSING -----------||----- RUSHING -----| TOTAL
CMP ATT YD YPA TD INT ATT YD YPA TD YD
262 479 3118 6.51 20 14 427 1792 4.20 9 4910
NFL rank ---> 29 25 26 20 19 10 18 16 14 28 26

2001 557-9th 3595 17th
2000
Team Offense
|---------- PASSING -----------||----- RUSHING -----| TOTAL
CMP ATT YD YPA TD INT ATT YD YPA TD YD
287 504 3102 6.15 20 19 511 2199 4.30 9 5301
NFL rank ---> 21 20 23 24 16 21 5 5 8 25 16

1999 546-9th

1998
Team Offense
|---------- PASSING -----------||----- RUSHING -----| TOTAL
CMP ATT YD YPA TD INT ATT YD YPA TD YD
272 477 3152 6.61 16 15 408 1629 3.99 7 4781
NFL rank ---> 24 25 25 19 24 13 23 20 15 25 27

1997 586-5
1996 570-2

Well I rest my case about the Ravens not being a passing team

They cannot pass the ball so hence fewer oppt.

beavis · 09-12-2005, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KingPriest2

Well I rest my case about the Ravens not being a passing team

They cannot pass the ball so hence fewer oppt.

Yeah, but you are contradicting yourself. I was under the impression that we were talking about Ogden vs. Freeney. What do the other games they play have to do with that matchup?

Dr. Johnny Fever · 09-12-2005, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KingPriest2

Why is he a pro bowler? He sucks against big name pass rushers.

Yes the Ravens are a good running team but they cannot pass.

Oggen is a average pass blocker.

There is no way he should be this overhyped

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chagrin · 09-12-2005, 09:09 AM

They passed the ball plenty for his first several years in the league. Doesn't matter, you believe he isn't a pro bowler, I do. No biggie

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