Football Phil Simms: Eli Manning is not elite - Page 2

Quesadilla Joe · 11-13-2012, 11:38 AM

I got blasted this offseason when I called him a more fortunate version of Tony Romo.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/gia...g-is-not-elite

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Eli Manning made it clear last season that he considers himself one of the “elite” quarterbacks in the NFL.

Phil Simms disagrees.

The former Giants quarterback shot down that “elite” theory on Monday night in an appearance on CBS Sports Network’s NFL Monday QB show. And he didn’t just blame Manning’s current slump, or his poor performance in the Giants’ 31-13 loss in Cincinnati on Sunday either.

“No, he is not one of the elites,” Simms said in quotes distributed by CBS. “Because when I hear the word elite, I’m thinking about guys that can make unbelievable plays on the field by themselves. There are very few quarterbacks in that category.

“So yes, Eli has been a tremendous team player. He has been MVP of the Super Bowl twice. I know that. But the way I look at it, the answer is no.”

It’s hard to argue considering the way Manning has played lately. He has topped 215 passing yards only once in the last five games, and over the past three games he’s had no touchdowns and four interceptions. In his ninth NFL season, the Giants quarterback has dipped into one of the worst slumps of his career.

Still, he has his supporters. Although former NFL quarterback Steve Beuerlein agreed with Simms on the CBS show -- he said “The problem (with the Giants) has been productivity offensively and specifically, Eli is in a slump right now. He is not playing his best football” – Hall of Famer Dan Fouts took Manning’s side.

“You can’t spell elite without Eli,” Fouts said. “The pressure situations that Eli has thrived in over his short career, in my mind, make him an elite quarterback, because that is when you’re judged. How well do you do when the pressure is on, when you’ve got to win the game?

“And all you have to do is look back at his two Super Bowl wins and the way he beat the Patriots. I have to give him a nod and say Eli is elite.”

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-13-2012, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

I got blasted this offseason when I called him a more fortunate version of Tony Romo.

As you should have because its a stupid ****ing comparison. You are a shitstain.

Eli= 2 SB wins

Peyton= 1 SB win

teedubya · 11-13-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy

ELI
2× Pro Bowl (2008, 2011)
2× Super Bowl champion (XLII, XLVI)
2× Super Bowl MVP (XLII, XLVI)
2× NFC Champion (2007, 2011)
NFL Record most 4th quarter touchdown passes in a season (15)
Tied NFL Record longest pass completion and touchdown (99 yards)
Tied NFL Record most game-winning drives in a season (8)
Most road wins in a single regular season and postseason by a starting quarterback (10)

Simms
2× Pro Bowl selection (1985, 1993)
1× Newspaper Enterprise Association first-team All-Pro selection (1986)
2× Super Bowl champion (XXI, XXV)
Super Bowl XXI MVP
1986 NEA National Football League Most Valuable Player Award
Shitty QB Son

Face it Simms, Manning > you

I was gonna post on this thread... but now, I don't have to. LOL

**the Talking Can** · 11-13-2012, 11:55 AM

Eli Manning: "Phil Simms is an albino queermo"

Deberg_1990 · 11-13-2012, 11:56 AM

What does Phil Simms think of Chris Simms?

Quesadilla Joe · 11-13-2012, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

As you should have because its a stupid ****ing comparison. You are a shitstain.

Eli= 2 SB wins

Peyton= 1 SB win

Eli has had a lot of things go his way. It's not like the Giants have been steamrolling people in the playoffs. A couple plays here and there have won those Super Bowls for the Giants.

**RealSNR** · 11-13-2012, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

Eli has had a lot of things go his way. It's not like the Giants have been steamrolling people in the playoffs. A couple plays here and there have won those Super Bowls for the Giants.

Holy shit

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-13-2012, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

Eli has had a lot of things go his way. It's not like the Giants have been steamrolling people in the playoffs. A couple plays here and there have won those Super Bowls for the Giants.

You are so stupid, you make a reeruned chimp look smart.

bobbything · 11-13-2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

Eli has had a lot of things go his way. It's not like the Giants have been steamrolling people in the playoffs. A couple plays here and there have won those Super Bowls for the Giants.

And if my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle.

Mile High Mania · 11-13-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything

And if my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle.

And Clayton would be interested...

Quesadilla Joe · 11-13-2012, 12:04 PM

Dude, the play against the Patriots was the luckiest play in the history of the NFL. Super Bowl or not. I'm not saying Eli is terrible, he just has been awfully lucky. The Giants front 4 should have won the Super Bowl MVP against NE.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-13-2012, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

Dude, the play against the Patriots was the luckiest play in the history of the NFL. Super Bowl or not. I'm not saying Eli is terrible, he just has been awfully lucky. The Giants front 4 should have won the Super Bowl MVP against NE.

You're awfully lucky to be on this planet.

Good thing your mother mated with that orangutan...

Deberg_1990 · 11-13-2012, 12:11 PM

Unban my IP!!!!

milkman · 11-13-2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

Dude, the play against the Patriots was the luckiest play in the history of the NFL. Super Bowl or not. I'm not saying Eli is terrible, he just has been awfully lucky. The Giants front 4 should have won the Super Bowl MVP against NE.

I've told your dumb ass this before.

Eli was spectacular on that play.

He escaped a sure sack, got his head downfield and made the perfect throw.

That play would have been remembered for that, but then David Tyree turned what should have been an easy catch into a circus catch.

Tyree gets credit for a spectacular catch, when he should have been lambasted for nearly letting a perfectly thrown ball get away from him.

The play on the front end from Eli is what should be hailed as the spectacular play.

Eli got lucky because a scrub receiver didn't totally **** up his spectacular play.

Woodchuck · 11-13-2012, 12:22 PM

He got lucky imo. Eli made a good play but, Tyree made the better play imo.

He was lucky Welker dropped that pass last year.

I guess it's better to be lucky than good.

Quesadilla Joe · 11-13-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I've told your dumb ass this before.

Eli was spectacular on that play.

He escaped a sure sack, got his head downfield and made the perfect throw.

That play would have been remembered for that, but then David Tyree turned what should have been an easy catch into a circus catch.

Tyree gets credit for a spectacular catch, when he should have been lambasted for nearly letting a perfectly thrown ball get away from him.

The play on the front end from Eli is what should be hailed as the spectacular play.

Eli got lucky because a scrub receiver didn't totally **** up his spectacular play.

I think everything about that play was lucky. Including the way Eli got out of that sack. I'll give Eli credit for fighting to get away instead of panicking and taking the sack. But 99 times out of 100 a QB would be sacked in that situation, I mean 3 separate Patriot players had a chance to sack him.

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Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $4138675	Dude, the play against the Patriots was the luckiest play in the history of the NFL. Super Bowl or not. I'm not saying Eli is terrible, he just has been awfully lucky. The Giants front 4 should have won the Super Bowl MVP against NE.
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Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	Unban my IP!!!! __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Woodchuck Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Pineapple Under the Sea Casino cash: $10004900	He got lucky imo. Eli made a good play but, Tyree made the better play imo. He was lucky Welker dropped that pass last year. I guess it's better to be lucky than good.
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