Mock draft (9/11/12)

[Direckshun]

I expect the Chiefs will sign Albert during the season and tag Bowe again.

Like I did with Brandon Carr, I will continue to assume we will let Dorsey walk. To replace him, the Chiefs try out Poe at DE, and start Powe at the nose.

I also anticipate us letting Peyton Hillis walk. We'll replace him by taking another one-year flyer on a backup everybody thinks is broken down in Rashard Mendenhall.

Quinn is also allowed to walk.

Belcher and Siler will both walk. To replace him, we sign a bigger, more versatile, more talented ILB in Daryl Smith of the Jaguars. For depth, Larry Foote is scooped up for a one-year deal as he has nowhere he can go.

Toribio, resigned for a couple years. Lucas Patterson is kept as a reserve. Travis Daniels kept on as a safety.

The Chiefs finish 9-7, and miss the playoffs. They will be picking at #17.

They get a 3rd round compensatory pick for Brandon Carr.

1. QB Tyler Wilson, Arkansas

Whether Pioli is kept on or not, it's pretty clear the Chiefs need to trade the house for a new franchise QB. So the Chiefs trade their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, as well as a 1st in 2014 and a 2nd in 2015 to move up from 17 to 5. They get back an additional late rounder in 2014.

Wilson is facing stiff odds this season. He is facing a program in disarray, all his best weapons in the NFL, and a different offensive system and some health issues. Nonetheless, he slides to #5 as most teams in the Top 5 (Rams, Vikings, Seahawks) believe they have their guy.

So the Chiefs go all in for a chance at a true franchise talent.

3. OLB Shayne Skov, Stanford

The Chiefs trade up again, this time trading their 4th and a 3rd next year to trade into the top half of the third round to bolster their pass rush.

The Chiefs simply need more from their passrush, and Skov is an attempt to bolster that some. Between Wilson and Skov, the 2014 draft will be skinny, but at least they'll have talent at two of the most important positions in the NFL: QB, and passrusher.

3. QB E.J. Manuel, Florida State

These are different times for the Chiefies.

5. SS Ray Ray Armstrong, formerly of Miami

Armstrong is a problem child, but he has the physical skillset for a true in-the-box safety that Crennel loves. Under the tutelage of Eric Berry, he should be fine, and he's outstanding value when he falls.

6. OG Omoregie Uzzi, Georgia

A light OL who can play all three positions at the interior. He needs a year in the system to get stronger, but he's extremely athletic.

7. ILB Patrick Larimore, UCLA

Don't know, I just look at the roster I've drafted and I know I need some talent at the interior. Larimore is a solid 250 lbs, though, so that gives us a solid backup thumper behind Smith.

[Direckshun]

QB: Cassel vs. Wilson to start, Manuel vs. Stanzi for backup
RB: Charles, Mendenhall, Droughn, Gray
FB: Eachus

WR: Bowe, Baldwin, McCluster, Breaston, Wylie, Copper
TE: Moeaki, Boss, Maneri

LT: Albert, Stephenson
LG: Allen, Uzzi
C: Hudson, Patterson
RG: Asamoah, Uzzi
RT: Winston, Stephenson

DE: Poe, Bailey
NT: Powe, Toribio
DE: Jackson, Smith

OLB: Hali, Skov
ILB: Smith, Larimore
ILB: Johnson, Foote
OLB: Houston, Studebaker

CB: Flowers, Routt, Arenas, Daniels, Brown
S: Berry, Lewis, Armstrong, Menzie

K: Succop
P: Colquitt
LS: Gafford

2013 draft picks: 2nd, 4th, 5th, 7th + comps
2014 draft picks: 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th + comps

[Sorter]

I can't see us going through a draft this year without using our 1st 3 picks on a QB, Pass rushing OLB, and a Corner.

[jd1020]

So you would draft a QB in the 3rd and have him compete for a roster spot?

[Nightfyre]

I will say this: I have fallen deeply in football-love with Jarvis Jones, and I MIGHT not crucify the front office for picking him over a first round QB, provided a first-round talent falls to the second and we pick a QB up there.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I will say this: I have fallen deeply in football-love with Jarvis Jones, and I MIGHT not crucify the front office for picking him over a first round QB, provided a first-round talent falls to the second and we pick a QB up there.

If we draft high enough to get him we have to go QB. How many top 3-5 picks can we spend on something other than QB?

[Sorter]

I love Jarvis Jones. But if Wilson/Smith are there you have to take them. If not, then **** it and grab him if he's available.

[pimpchief]

Ooooh tyler wilson ftw

[DaneMcCloud]

The Chiefs signed Routt, so I wouldn't be so certain they'll get a 3rd for Carr, especially since he received no tag of any kind.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The Chiefs signed Routt, so I wouldn't be so certain they'll get a 3rd for Carr, especially since he received no tag of any kind.

Routt doesn't count against compensation because of the way in which he became a Chief. Neither does Winston or Boss.

[Sorter]

In fact, we should be looking at a total of I think 2 or 3 comp picks this year. The Carr pick will be 3rd probably, and we should probably get 2 later picks as well if I remember correctly.

[Nightfyre]

Interesting note about some of this year's first round talents:
1) Tyler Bray - Major character issues involving alcohol related vandalism
2) Tyler Wilson - Concussion issues

Maybe some of those juniors should come out.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Routt doesn't count against compensation because of the way in which he became a Chief. Neither does Winston or Boss.

How is that possible? Both were signed as free agents to offset losses and/or injuries.

I don't think you know what you're talking about.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

How is that possible? Both were signed as free agents to offset losses and/or injuries.

I don't think you know what you're talking about.

They were all released by their teams. Released players do not count against FA compensation, I believe they call them "Street Free Agents." It was talked about when it all went down. Routt was even signed before FA even started.

http://nflmocks.com/2012-nfl-draft/compensatory-picks/

"Even though compensatory picks are a closely guarded recipe it seems to be a collaboration of players lost, age of the players, and contract value from the other team. There may also be an element of playoff success while on the other team, though contract from the other team is the biggie. Players who are released do NOT count towards the formula either way. And I also don’t think resigning their own free agents counts against a team either."

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2012/3...2013-nfl-draft

"What they've done in free agency this year has set themselves up nicely for comp picks next year. The big additions, like Stanford Routt, Kevin Boss and Eric Winston, are not qualifying free agents. They were all cut by their former team meaning they weren't "true" unrestricted free agents. This means they will not count against the Chiefs when it comes to compensatory picks next year. That's a good thing."

Thanks for playing?

Does anyone know if Orton would count as compensation? Or is it like in baseball where a player has to play the entire previous season on the team in order to count?

[Nightfyre]

Orton counts.