Football First openly gay NFL player to come out soon? - Page 2

Deberg_1990 · 03-26-2013, 06:51 AM

Would this really be that big a deal anymore??

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/mi...er-to-come-out

Former NFL player Scott Fujita has seen enough. He's tired of the bigotry. He wants it to end. He's not alone.

Players like Fujita, along with a coalition of current and former NFL players, and NFL team owners, a music mogul and others, are working diligently to create a safe atmosphere for the day history will happen: when an openly gay man will be a member of an NFL club. People like Fujita -- brave people -- are attempting to make the issue a non-issue for when that day comes.

And there are serious indications that day may come sooner than later. While I've long believed I would not see an openly gay NFL player for decades, that might be wrong.

Based on interviews over the past several weeks with current and former players, I'm told that a current gay NFL player is strongly considering coming out publicly within the next few months -- and after doing so, the player would attempt to continue his career.

I'm told this player feels the time is now for someone to take this step -- despite homophobic remarks from San Francisco 49ers defensive back Chris Culliver and the controversy arising recently at the Indianapolis Scouting combine, when prospects were asked questions about their sexuality.

This player's true concern, I'm told, is not the reaction inside an NFL locker room but outside of it. The player fears he will suffer serious harm from homophobic fans, and that is the only thing preventing him from coming out. My sources will not say who this alleged player is.

There has never been an active openly gay player in a major American team sport, but the information I've gathered on the player in question comes from several current and former players.

"I honestly think the players of the NFL have been ready for an openly gay player for quite some time now," said Fujita, a free agent linebacker who has played for the Chiefs, Cowboys, Saints and Browns. "Trust me, the coming out of a player would create much bigger waves outside the locker room than inside. The way I've seen the conversation around LGBT issues evolve, especially in the past few years, has been encouraging. Guys are more accepting than they used to be. Even those who raise personal objections to homosexuality, some of whom are good friends of mine, would still be able to coexist and accept a gay teammate."

Over the past few days there's been a flurry of activity on the issue including a brief filed by Fujita and others in support of a marriage equality case before the Supreme Court.

The Supreme Court on Tuesday will hear oral arguments on California's Proposition 8, which banned same-sex marriage. Opponents of the proposition say it discriminates against gay men and women.

To Fujita and others, this is an important case that could have ramifications in the NFL. If the Supreme Court overturns Proposition 8, it would send yet another signal to closeted gay NFL players that the environment is changing for the better.

The brief's supporters are impressive. They include: Giants co-owner Steve Tisch; Demaurice Smith, executive director of the NFLPA; Vikings punter Chris Kluwe, Ravens linebacker Brendon Ayanbadejo; Marie Tillman, co-founder of the Pat Tillman Foundation; Russell Simmons, founder of Def Jam Records; former UFC light heavyweight champion Rashad Evans; Browns center Alex Mack; and NFL players Connor Barwin, D'Qwell Jackson, Tom Crabtree, Eric Winston and Scott Shanle, among others.

There is a feeling among people who have fought this battle for years that a corner is about to be turned. I don't know. While my faith in humanity remains tepid, it's balanced by my faith in people like Fujita.

**Tribal Warfare** · 03-26-2013, 07:38 AM

seriously, tolerance won't mean shit in the locker room unless it's in their contract and/or they'll get fined. It's just how it is, you can't change someone's personal opinion on this issue.

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-26-2013, 07:45 AM

I've never understood why anyone would care either way unless he tried to grab your pecker or some shit. The pat on the butt may turn from male bonding to creepy though.

tooge · 03-26-2013, 07:56 AM

If the guy can play football, I don't care if he's gay or not, I want him on my team. If he sucks (at football), then I don't want him on my team. Very simple.

Anyone who feels differently is ignorant. People are born gay and don't have any control over it. People who are ignorant are born ignorant and don't have any control over it.

I hope whoever the guy is that comes out is a well known player and not some practice squad guy.

tooge · 03-26-2013, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze

he'll most assuredly lead with his head.

too funny. Rep.

**MahiMike** · 03-26-2013, 07:58 AM

Here's my take on bundle of stickss on teams. Why is it ok for these guys to be in the same locker room/shower as other guys? I mean, if this is ok then why can't straight guys go into women's locker rooms/showers?

It ain't fair!

**Tribal Warfare** · 03-26-2013, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge

If the guy can play football, I don't care if he's gay or not, I want him on my team. If he sucks (at football), then I don't want him on my team. Very simple.

Anyone who feels differently is ignorant. People are born gay and don't have any control over it. People who are ignorant are born ignorant and don't have any control over it.

I hope whoever the guy is that comes out is a well known player and not some practice squad guy.

Not me, but a lot believe differently, and ( not to put into D.C. forum context) It's hardwired into religion.

Jerm · 03-26-2013, 08:02 AM

When the Te'o story broke, Mike Freeman went on Twitter and heavily insinuated he was gay and it was a cover up...wonder if that's the case. Why else would whoever this is wait a few months?

OrlandoChief · 03-26-2013, 08:04 AM

Thought the Winston cut was financial,,,, but this makes more sense.

Prison Bitch · 03-26-2013, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike

Here's my take on pillowbiters on teams. Why is it ok for these guys to be in the same locker room/shower as other guys? I mean, if this is ok then why can't straight guys go into women's locker rooms/showers?

It ain't fair!

You're joking, but it's a fair point you stumbled across. As you see, "sexual harassment" has been discussed ad nauseam by the feminists for the past 50 years in America. Workplace agression! Sue everybody! On and on and on....lawsuit after lawsuit. Those gawd damn caveman males keep reverting to knuckle dragging and sexual prowess.

It's just who men are: pigs.

But these same people turn right around and demand - not ask but demand - that a gay guy be brought into the showering areas of a football team. That the male instincts - so obvious and so commonplace when sexually attacking women in the workplace - suddenly disappears completely when it's a GAY guy. (We only harass when we are straight apparently)

Truly amazing.

HoneyBadger · 03-26-2013, 08:07 AM

This will lead to a thread being created about the use of the word "gay" and how it is highly offensive so we should stop using it.

KCUnited · 03-26-2013, 08:13 AM

That Browns uni could use a little sprucing.

Chiefshrink · 03-26-2013, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

I wouldn't have enjoyed being around an openly gay guy in my frat in college. It's possible one of the 100 was but it certainly wasn't known. I wouldn't shower in the common area with the possibility he'd show up in there. Anyone who can't understand the natural aversion straight males have to this, is a ****ing moron.

But you see you are the '****ing moron' NOW in our political correct progressive society,according too many on this board

But I agree with you. You are going to tell me that a cute heterosexual college softball chick who plays with half of her team that are lesbians actually feels comfortable in the showers and doesn't feel like she is being looked on as a potentially new strap on victim

I guess 'tribal' and suds' would have no problem and actually feel very comfortable in the locker room with a naked gay black guy on each side of them potentially wanting to play 'oreo cookie' or if the gay guys were white then they could play 'vanilla wafered'.

Understand that the term "homophobia" is a made up phony clinical term by the political left made to look legit listing it in the DSM of mental health in order to continue the assault on our Judeo/Christian values of our culture.

Bottom line: IT IS NORMAL to feel 'uncomfortable' around homosexuals of your same sex in the shower BUT the progressive politically correct will always tell you otherwise

Prison Bitch, MahiMike, even PGM hints at uncomfortableness, but guys it IS NORMAL to feel this way and you ARE NOT WRONG FOR FEELING THIS WAY

WhawhaWhat · 03-26-2013, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

You're joking, but it's a fair point you stumbled across. As you see, "sexual harassment" has been discussed ad nauseam by the feminists for the past 50 years in America. Workplace agression! Sue everybody! On and on and on....lawsuit after lawsuit. Those gawd damn caveman males keep reverting to knuckle dragging and sexual prowess.

It's just who men are: pigs.

But these same people turn right around and demand - not ask but demand - that a gay guy be brought into the showering areas of a football team. That the male instincts - so obvious and so commonplace when sexually attacking women in the workplace - suddenly disappears completely when it's a GAY guy. (We only harass when we are straight apparently)

Truly amazing.

I am sure every gay guy in the locker room is wandering around grabbing everyone's junk and asking for BJs.

Fritz88 · 03-26-2013, 08:19 AM

Probably some no name special teamer who wants to make history.

Its going to be interesting to see what happens when he comes out.
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Chiefshrink · 03-26-2013, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

You're joking, but it's a fair point you stumbled across. As you see, "sexual harassment" has been discussed ad nauseam by the feminists for the past 50 years in America. Workplace agression! Sue everybody! On and on and on....lawsuit after lawsuit. Those gawd damn caveman males keep reverting to knuckle dragging and sexual prowess.

It's just who men are: pigs.

But these same people turn right around and demand - not ask but demand - that a gay guy be brought into the showering areas of a football team. That the male instincts - so obvious and so commonplace when sexually attacking women in the workplace - suddenly disappears completely when it's a GAY guy. (We only harass when we are straight apparently)

Truly amazing.

Progressive Marxist Politically Correct Lefty Dems !! Don't ya Love'EM ???

03-26-2013, 06:51 AM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3944454	First openly gay NFL player to come out soon? Would this really be that big a deal anymore?? http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/mi...er-to-come-out Former NFL player Scott Fujita has seen enough. He's tired of the bigotry. He wants it to end. He's not alone. Players like Fujita, along with a coalition of current and former NFL players, and NFL team owners, a music mogul and others, are working diligently to create a safe atmosphere for the day history will happen: when an openly gay man will be a member of an NFL club. People like Fujita -- brave people -- are attempting to make the issue a non-issue for when that day comes. And there are serious indications that day may come sooner than later. While I've long believed I would not see an openly gay NFL player for decades, that might be wrong. Based on interviews over the past several weeks with current and former players, I'm told that a current gay NFL player is strongly considering coming out publicly within the next few months -- and after doing so, the player would attempt to continue his career. I'm told this player feels the time is now for someone to take this step -- despite homophobic remarks from San Francisco 49ers defensive back Chris Culliver and the controversy arising recently at the Indianapolis Scouting combine, when prospects were asked questions about their sexuality. This player's true concern, I'm told, is not the reaction inside an NFL locker room but outside of it. The player fears he will suffer serious harm from homophobic fans, and that is the only thing preventing him from coming out. My sources will not say who this alleged player is. There has never been an active openly gay player in a major American team sport, but the information I've gathered on the player in question comes from several current and former players. "I honestly think the players of the NFL have been ready for an openly gay player for quite some time now," said Fujita, a free agent linebacker who has played for the Chiefs, Cowboys, Saints and Browns. "Trust me, the coming out of a player would create much bigger waves outside the locker room than inside. The way I've seen the conversation around LGBT issues evolve, especially in the past few years, has been encouraging. Guys are more accepting than they used to be. Even those who raise personal objections to homosexuality, some of whom are good friends of mine, would still be able to coexist and accept a gay teammate." Over the past few days there's been a flurry of activity on the issue including a brief filed by Fujita and others in support of a marriage equality case before the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court on Tuesday will hear oral arguments on California's Proposition 8, which banned same-sex marriage. Opponents of the proposition say it discriminates against gay men and women. To Fujita and others, this is an important case that could have ramifications in the NFL. If the Supreme Court overturns Proposition 8, it would send yet another signal to closeted gay NFL players that the environment is changing for the better. The brief's supporters are impressive. They include: Giants co-owner Steve Tisch; Demaurice Smith, executive director of the NFLPA; Vikings punter Chris Kluwe, Ravens linebacker Brendon Ayanbadejo; Marie Tillman, co-founder of the Pat Tillman Foundation; Russell Simmons, founder of Def Jam Records; former UFC light heavyweight champion Rashad Evans; Browns center Alex Mack; and NFL players Connor Barwin, D'Qwell Jackson, Tom Crabtree, Eric Winston and Scott Shanle, among others. There is a feeling among people who have fought this battle for years that a corner is about to be turned. I don't know. While my faith in humanity remains tepid, it's balanced by my faith in people like Fujita.
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Tribal Warfare The Boom Boom Room Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $1032813	seriously, tolerance won't mean shit in the locker room unless it's in their contract and/or they'll get fined. It's just how it is, you can't change someone's personal opinion on this issue. __________________
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Pasta Little Brioni Consuming CP souls Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: U.S.A. Casino cash: $4098880	I've never understood why anyone would care either way unless he tried to grab your pecker or some shit. The pat on the butt may turn from male bonding to creepy though. __________________ **Official TFWdemB Trivia Commisioner**
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tooge MVP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Liberty, MO Casino cash: $4044112	If the guy can play football, I don't care if he's gay or not, I want him on my team. If he sucks (at football), then I don't want him on my team. Very simple. Anyone who feels differently is ignorant. People are born gay and don't have any control over it. People who are ignorant are born ignorant and don't have any control over it. I hope whoever the guy is that comes out is a well known player and not some practice squad guy.
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Jerm Mahomes > God Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $5958996	When the Te'o story broke, Mike Freeman went on Twitter and heavily insinuated he was gay and it was a cover up...wonder if that's the case. Why else would whoever this is wait a few months?
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HoneyBadger The chosen one Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: OC, California Casino cash: $1795760	This will lead to a thread being created about the use of the word "gay" and how it is highly offensive so we should stop using it.
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