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sedated · 03-13-2011, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

Google is your friend.

darn, had I just tried google, I wouldn't have had any issues

**alnorth** · 03-13-2011, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by banyon

Just showing UAB non con at @173.

it wasn't over 200 or 300 like Alabama and Colorado. I think UAB got a pass because their RPI was 31.

That's got to be the message this committee is sending: schedule people in November and December, or you are toast. Scheduling people doesn't get you in, but if you don't play anyone until the conference schedule, they will punish you.

crispystl · 03-13-2011, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Not even close.

There isn't a single player on this team who would start for that 2002 squad. Not one.

Arthur Johnson, Ricky Paulding, Kareem Rush, Clarence Gilbert and Wesley Stokes.

That team would have annihilated the Big XII this year.

Not to mention Justin Gage and Travon Bryant.

Man I miss that team

**banyon** · 03-13-2011, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

it wasn't over 200 or 300 like Alabama and Colorado. I think UAB got a pass because their RPI was 31.

That's got to be the message this committee is sending: schedule people in November and December, or you are toast. Scheduling people doesn't get you in, but if you don't play anyone until the conference schedule, they will punish you.

It's stupid though, because they didn't even play any of those teams close. In fact, they only played 3 noncon team that's even in the tourney, one being VCU.

Look at this schedule:

2011 Schedule (?)
Game Plan
Date Opponent Result Location Record Conf
Sat Nov 13 287 Southeast Missouri St. W, 78-56 70 Home 1-0
Wed Nov 17 180 Middle Tennessee W, 76-71 73 Away 2-0
Sat Nov 20 120 Arizona St. L, 69-66 64 Away 2-1
Tue Nov 23 288 South Alabama W, 82-58 67 Home 3-1
Fri Nov 26 102 Arkansas W, 70-65 71 OT Semi-Away 4-1
Mon Nov 29 273 Troy W, 78-57 63 Away 5-1
Wed Dec 1 276 Jacksonville St. W, 59-53 59 Home 6-1
Fri Dec 3 57 Georgia L, 66-64 59 Away 6-2
Sun Dec 5 110 Kent St. W, 75-59 59 Home 7-2
Sun Dec 19 323 Alabama A&M W, 58-40 62 Home 8-2
Tue Dec 21 84 Virginia Commonwealth W, 68-65 69 Home 9-2
Mon Dec 27 162 George Washington W, 79-44 59 Home 10-2
Wed Jan 5 2 Duke L, 85-64 69 Away 10-3
Sat Jan 8 65 Texas El Paso W, 100-97 94 3OT Home 11-3 1-0
Sat Jan 15 88 Tulsa L, 78-62 67 Away 11-4 1-1
Mon Jan 17 136 East Carolina W, 66-59 60 Away 12-4 2-1
Wed Jan 19 146 Southern Methodist W, 67-53 61 Home 13-4 3-1
Sat Jan 22 85 Memphis L, 76-73 75 OT Home 13-5 3-2
Wed Jan 26 80 Marshall W, 60-56 63 Home 14-5 4-2
Sat Jan 29 100 Central Florida W, 74-69 62 Away 15-5 5-2
Wed Feb 2 68 Southern Mississippi L, 75-71 59 Home 15-6 5-3
Sat Feb 5 179 Tulane W, 47-39 62 Away 16-6 6-3
Wed Feb 9 80 Marshall W, 64-48 58 Away 17-6 7-3
Sat Feb 12 150 Rice W, 74-68 65 Home 18-6 8-3
Wed Feb 16 85 Memphis L, 62-58 65 Away 18-7 8-4
Sat Feb 19 100 Central Florida W, 63-58 53 Home 19-7 9-4
Sat Feb 26 203 Houston W, 68-55 61 Away 20-7 10-4
Wed Mar 2 68 Southern Mississippi W, 67-66 58 Away 21-7 11-4
Sat Mar 5 136 East Carolina W, 66-48 58 Home 22-7 12-4
Conference USA Tournament
Thu Mar 10 136 East Carolina L, 75-70 76 OT Neutral 22-8

**alnorth** · 03-13-2011, 05:36 PM

Michigan State is another good example. People were crossing their fingers, but as a 10 seed they weren't close to being out.

This year Michigan State lined up a hilariously hard schedule, won only a couple of those tough non-con games, and then hoped the committee would like it. The Spartans absolutely nailed it.

ChiefsCountry · 03-13-2011, 05:39 PM

UAB also won Conference USA regular season title.

**alnorth** · 03-13-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

UAB also won Conference USA regular season title.

I'm not all that upset about UAB, good RPI, won their conference, fine.

I'm puzzled about VCU.

tk13 · 03-13-2011, 05:49 PM

I do wonder how much of the weird seeding had to do with 11 Big east teams. They had to probably do a lot more thinking than usual to try to separate them all.

Titty Meat · 03-13-2011, 05:54 PM

Why is everyone pissed Colorado didn't make it but Michigan State did? Colorado has 4 more losses and has beaten 2 less tournament teams than Michigan State.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-13-2011, 05:58 PM

Gottlieb likes this gutless, heartless collection of scumbags to beat Cincy.

tk13 · 03-13-2011, 05:58 PM

Doug Gottlieb hoping the game between Temple and Penn State will be on Tru TV because it's going to be ugly. All Pennsylvania matchup there too.

**alnorth** · 03-13-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

Why is everyone pissed Colorado didn't make it but Michigan State did? Colorado has 4 more losses and has beaten 2 less tournament teams than Michigan State.

The big 12 is the 3rd-toughest conference, and Colorado did great. 4 wins against top-25 RPI teams, Michigan State only has 2 of those even though they played top-25 teams 10 times.

Michigan State loaded up on a tough schedule and didn't look that good this year. Its not a good idea to play a cupcake non-conference schedule, but in prior years you could overcome that if you do really well in a tough conference.

The committee basically said "not anymore". If you play an easy non-con schedule, you are apparently dead in the water.

tk13 · 03-13-2011, 06:08 PM

Colorado's schedule is pretty rough. Especially nowadays where teams are playing 30+ games and the non-conf is now half your schedule. You could probably make a case their non-conference was worse than some of the low-major conference schedules.

Titty Meat · 03-13-2011, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

The big 12 is the 3rd-toughest conference, and Colorado did great. 4 wins against top-25 RPI teams, Michigan State only has 2 of those even though they played top-25 teams 10 times.

Michigan State loaded up on a tough schedule and didn't look that good this year. Its not a good idea to play a cupcake non-conference schedule, but in prior years you could overcome that if you do really well in a tough conference.

The committee basically said "not anymore". If you play an easy non-con schedule, you are apparently dead in the water.

I'm having this debate right now. The Big 10 is better this year than the Big 12 is it not?

**banyon** · 03-13-2011, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

Why is everyone pissed Colorado didn't make it but Michigan State did? Colorado has 4 more losses and has beaten 2 less tournament teams than Michigan State.

Uh, VCU and UAB are the teams in the spotlight, at least in this thread, on ESPN and on CBS.

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alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57176239	Michigan State is another good example. People were crossing their fingers, but as a 10 seed they weren't close to being out. This year Michigan State lined up a hilariously hard schedule, won only a couple of those tough non-con games, and then hoped the committee would like it. The Spartans absolutely nailed it. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $2102500	I do wonder how much of the weird seeding had to do with 11 Big east teams. They had to probably do a lot more thinking than usual to try to separate them all.
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $2102500	Colorado's schedule is pretty rough. Especially nowadays where teams are playing 30+ games and the non-conf is now half your schedule. You could probably make a case their non-conference was worse than some of the low-major conference schedules.
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