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Old 04-25-2009, 02:27 PM  
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Old 04-25-2009, 07:09 PM   #451
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Interesting. I normally have Federal HST loaded. Have you used these? Good results?
I have and very good results.
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Old 04-25-2009, 07:11 PM   #452
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It's not even about Sanchez( though grabbing a QB the Jets and god knows who else might have coveted could have created some leverage ), it's about the stone cold fact that Jesus GM couldn't get the trade down; he couldn't get it done!
Does anyone honestly believe this franchise coveted Jackson? WHO THE **** IS THIS GUY????

Fail. Complete and utter fail.
I'm sure he COULD have gotten it done. Did you honestly want us to take a package like Cleveland took?
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Old 04-25-2009, 07:12 PM   #453
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Yeah, it was the least-bad of all our less-than-ideal choices.
Right.
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Old 04-25-2009, 07:12 PM   #454
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It's not even about Sanchez( though grabbing a QB the Jets and god knows who else might have coveted could have created some leverage ), it's about the stone cold fact that Jesus GM couldn't get the trade down; he couldn't get it done!
Does anyone honestly believe this franchise coveted Jackson? WHO THE **** IS THIS GUY????

Fail. Complete and utter fail.
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Old 04-25-2009, 07:13 PM   #455
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It's not even about Sanchez( though grabbing a QB the Jets and god knows who else might have coveted could have created some leverage ), it's about the stone cold fact that Jesus GM couldn't get the trade down; he couldn't get it done!
Does anyone honestly believe this franchise coveted Jackson? WHO THE **** IS THIS GUY????

Fail. Complete and utter fail.


How the hell do you know that? The guy hasn't played a down in the NFL and you have him as a complete bust. I think I'll wait to see how he does for a year before I call him and Poli losers and the pick a "bust."
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Old 04-25-2009, 07:17 PM   #456
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I don't mind the Jackson pick, its way to high for him but he is a nice fit in the 3-4. Cassel better produce, Pioli's ass rides on that one.
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Old 04-25-2009, 07:29 PM   #457
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Well, let's see what Chiefsplanet users said before the draft:

We shouldn't take Smith or Monroe because that would be like drafting a guard or right tackle at #3 due to Albert

We shouldn't take Curry because he isn't a pass rusher and doesn't fit the 3-4

We shouldn't take Crabtree because he didn't come from a pro style offense

We shouldn't take Orakpo because he's Vernon Gholston 2.0

So we take Tyson Jackson and people gripe.

WTF was Pioli supposed to do. No one wanted to trade up.
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Old 04-25-2009, 07:36 PM   #458
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How the hell do you know that? The guy hasn't played a down in the NFL and you have him as a complete bust. I think I'll wait to see how he does for a year before I call him and Poli losers and the pick a "bust."
IT'S NOT ABOUT JACKSON AS A BUST!!!!

It's about having the VALUE of this draft surgically removed from Pioli's poot-chute with a ****ing claw-hammer by people who are not supposedly as "smart" as he is!!!

Look, the bottom line is, this season rests squarely on the shoulders of one Matt Cassel, and he better ****ing produce. That's the road we took, that's the path that has thus far made this draft a complete ****ing joke on our end, so it better be lined with gold ****ing bricks from Arrowhead to the Super Bowl.

Bottom line, there it is; roll with it.
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Old 04-25-2009, 07:36 PM   #459
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It's not even about Sanchez( though grabbing a QB the Jets and god knows who else might have coveted could have created some leverage ), it's about the stone cold fact that Jesus GM couldn't get the trade down; he couldn't get it done!
Does anyone honestly believe this franchise coveted Jackson? WHO THE **** IS THIS GUY????

Fail. Complete and utter fail.
No. You have absolutely no idea if Cleveland would have stuck around at #5 if Jackson was on the board.

Do I believe this franchise coveted Jackson? Based on how Pioli is gushing over this guy, you don't think the Chiefs' front office is ecstatic?
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Look, the bottom line is, this season rests squarely on the shoulders of one Matt Cassel, and he better ****ing produce. That's the road we took, that's the path that has thus far made this draft a complete ****ing joke on our end, so it better be lined with gold ****ing bricks from Arrowhead to the Super Bowl.
Next season doesn't mean a thing.

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Old 04-25-2009, 07:41 PM   #461
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I'm not mad at the Tyson Jackson pick, I would have preferred Monroe to anchor the line for a long time, but I'm not mad.

The thing that I'm mad about is this city loved Tony Gonzalez, and when we all heard a 2010 2nd rounder for him we raised our eyebrows. People said that "Hey it's a second!" but the rest of us knew that if you don't get anything that directly affects this year then you have wasted your time and just traded away the best offensive weapon you have this upcoming year. Unless they turn that 2nd rounder into a 3 and a 5 this year or a 3 and a 6 then I will be utterly dissapointed.
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IT'S NOT ABOUT JACKSON AS A BUST!!!!

It's about having the VALUE of this draft surgically removed from Pioli's poot-chute with a ****ing claw-hammer by people who are not supposedly as "smart" as he is!!!

Look, the bottom line is, this season rests squarely on the shoulders of one Matt Cassel, and he better ****ing produce. That's the road we took, that's the path that has thus far made this draft a complete ****ing joke on our end, so it better be lined with gold ****ing bricks from Arrowhead to the Super Bowl.

Bottom line, there it is; roll with it.
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We still have 2 years of drafting and FA dealings before we have a shot of taking it to the next level IMHO. We are not going to go from last years record to the big dance in one or two years period. The team has to fill in all the pieces before we can make a run and there are a lot of pieces.

As far as Cassel, you bet he needs to produce, but we damn well better get him some kind of line or he is going to get killed. I hope we can get him some protection either in this years draft, of after the fact, or it will be really ugly.
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Old 04-25-2009, 07:52 PM   #463
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We still have 2 years of drafting and FA dealings before we have a shot of taking it to the next level IMHO. We are not going to go from last years record to the big dance in one or two years period. The team has to fill in all the pieces before we can make a run and there are a lot of pieces.

As far as Cassel, you bet he needs to produce, but we damn well better get him some kind of line or he is going to get killed. I hope we can get him some protection either in this years draft, of after the fact, or it will be really ugly.
I remember Trent Green's first year being pretty rough, but he went on to give us some very productive years after that.

I'm sure that Cassel will be fine.
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I know that the 3rd pick was a little WTF, but comparing our only single pick to Denver's, Oakland, and Chargers, all of their picks have been pretty much very shitty.

It actually makes our pick look ****ing good, somehow.
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I remember Trent Green's first year being pretty rough, but he went on to give us some very productive years after that.

I'm sure that Cassel will be fine.
I have no doubt about that, providing we can get him some blocking.
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