Cassel did, does, and will always suck

[Thig Lyfe]

I had backed off on my Cassel hate in the second half of the season because he actually started to play with a modicum of competence. But I never stopped being wary of him, because he was playing well against shitty, shitty ****ing teams.

But today is proof positive that Cassel is NOT the answer. He will NOT be a franchise quarterback. He simply doesn't have the ability or the intelligence that is required. He never really progressed this season; he just managed to not shit himself against the NFC West.

Can we all just agree that he's not the answer? Please?

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by jd1020

You act like the team as a whole hasnt progressed.

You do realize that the team's original starting WR2 for is bad enough that he was deactivated today so that a midweek pickup could take his place, right? That's not the 5th or 6th wideout, that's the #2 man.

[baitism]

Originally Posted by Royal Fanatic

I said it earlier in this thread, and I'll say it again: It's sad how some people around here are jizzing in their pants because Cassel had a bad game today.

No, we just don't want this to happen again. Quit being stupid, everyone wanted the Chiefs to win. But, if we keep Cassel, we will probably never win a playoff game with him.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by jd1020

You act like the team as a whole hasnt progressed.

You act like that doesn't have anything to do with the QB improving.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

You do realize that the team's original starting WR2 for is bad enough that he was deactivated today so that a midweek pickup could take his place, right? That's not the 5th or 6th wideout, that's the #2 man.

You're not helping. Hahaha...
Bowe gets taken out of the game and Kevin Curtis is on the other side.
But it's all on Cassel? Hilarious. Why do I bother arguing against that kind of logic?

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I'm just finding it hard to believe Cassel will get any better than he is. I want to, but ugh. He just didn't show me anything today. He just doesn't have "it." I hope he develops it, but how long does Haley and Pioli wait?

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

You do realize that the team's original starting WR2 for is bad enough that he was deactivated today so that a midweek pickup could take his place, right? That's not the 5th or 6th wideout, that's the #2 man.

Not sure what your point is. The one WR who was actually getting some seperation in todays game is now Cassels scapegoat for sucking?

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Fair enough.

And just to point out Manning's first playoff game. They played the Titans at home and lost 19-16. He was 19-42, 227 yds no INT's, no TD's but he had a rushing TD.

That is a million times better than Cassel's performance.

And in his third game, he played the 9-7 Jets, and got shut out 41-0 while tossing up a 31.2 rating with 0 TDs and 2 INTs.

[KCBOSS1]

He's a really good back up quarterback though. Really Good. I mean earlier in the season, I didn't even think he was a back up quarterback. But His little mid season run absolutely convinced me he is a franchise back up quarterback. But you might as well breathe easy, he will be our quarterback next season.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Royal Fanatic

I said it earlier in this thread, and I'll say it again: It's sad how some people around here are jizzing in their pants because Cassel had a bad game today.

You are wrong. We all want Cassel to succeed because if he does the Chiefs succeed. We just don't think he can be the one to lead us to championships.

Do you believe that he could win a SB?

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Micjones

You act like that doesn't have anything to do with the QB improving.

Charles was consistently running for first downs and Cassel was shitting a brick. Great improvement.

[munkey]

Originally Posted by Micjones

*Top 10 in TD's
*Top 10 in INT's
*Top 10 in QB Rating

More efficient year than Brees, Manning, Schaub, Ryan, Garrard, Cutler = suck.
Got it.

worst QB rating in the playoffs so far = SUCK...

WTF...Does it really matter what he did during the regular season? apples and oranges buddy...you can't compare. Other than Ryan and Cutler your comparisons are all out of the playoffs...whatever.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Micjones

A 3:1 TD-to-INT ratio isn't making a case? Being in the Top 10 in the league in TD passes isn't making a case? Being in the Top 10 in the league in INT's (fewest) isn't making a case? Being in the Top 10 in QB Rating isn't making a case? A better QB Rating than at least a half-dozen other QB's who everyone thinks is better than Cassel isn't making a case?

Then what the Hell is?

The strength of schedule argument is DUMB.
He didn't play well last year against an even weaker schedule.

You can quote stats all day long. I watched the games. Yes, he didn't turn the ball over. Yes he had a high rating (which carries very little weight IMO). He plays exactly the type of game that makes stats columns look shiny, but he'll never be the guy that saves the game.

You want Trent Dilfer? Fine. Keep in mind though, you have to build an entire team to prop him up. Guys like Manning and Brady make Pierre Garcon and Danny Woodhead household names, while guys like Matt Cassel make Dwayne Bowe disappear.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Not sure what your point is. The one WR who was actually getting some seperation in todays game is now Cassels scapegoat for sucking?

The one guy that Cassel doesn't know how to mesh with was the only one who could do anything. Meanwhile, Bowe, the team's #1 wideout, couldn't get open, and McCluster put the ball on the ground after making a catch.

Was today the first football game you've ever watched, or something?

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by Micjones

*Top 10 in TD's
*Top 10 in INT's
*Top 10 in QB Rating

More efficient year than Brees, Manning, Schaub, Ryan, Garrard, Cutler = suck.
Got it.

What matters is the playoffs man. He didn't do anything today. That's what counts.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by jspchief

You can quote stats all day long. I watched the games. Yes, he didn't turn the ball over. Yes he had a high rating (which carries very little weight IMO). He plays exactly the type of game that makes stats columns look shiny, but he'll never be the guy that saves the game.

You want Trent Dilfer? Fine. Keep in mind though, you have to build an entire team to prop him up. Guys like Manning and Brady make Pierre Garcon and Danny Woodhead household names, while guys like Matt Cassel make Dwayne Bowe disappear.

I think you mean Welker.