Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-08-2013, 07:59 PM  
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Supporter
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hollywood, CA
Casino cash: $10053648
Luke Joeckel may pique Chiefs’ interest at No. 1 overall

http://nfl.si.com/2013/01/08/luke-jo...-no-1-overall/

For as long as Luke Joeckel remains on the draft board in April, he’s likely to be seriously considered by whichever team happens to be on the clock.

The Chiefs, by virtue of holding the No. 1 overall pick, will have first crack at the standout Texas A&M offensive tackle. Joeckel finalized his plan Tuesday to enter the 2013 NFL Draft, according to multiple reports.

The 6-foot-6 Joeckel played a key role in Johnny Manziel’s sudden takeover of college football this season. Despite playing against elite SEC talent, week in and week out, Joeckel turned in a dominant 2012 and is considered to be, for now, the top available offensive lineman for the coming draft.

How strongly Kansas City leans toward Joeckel depends on a number of factors, not the least of which being Branden Albert’s pending free agency.

The Chiefs face the usual options with Albert set to hit the market: re-sign him, let him walk or slap the franchise tag on him. That third choice would cost the Chiefs just shy of $10 million, but it’s hard to see them allowing their starting left tackle to walk.

The variable that could push them toward that money-saving decision is Joeckel. If the Chiefs convince themselves in the coming couple of weeks that Joeckel is capable of filling Albert’s shoes, that swap may make sense for new head coach Andy Reid. Kansas City also might be intrigued by the prospect of Joeckel at left tackle and Albert at guard — the Chiefs need to address their interior line, too, now that guard Ryan Lilja has decided to retire.

Unfortunately for Reid and the Chiefs, the top of this year’s draft class does not have an obvious No. 1 pick — unlike the 2012 draft, where the Colts had their choice between Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. Given Kansas City’s obvious needs (quarterback, receiver and linebacker, for starters), that lack of a clear superstar has to be even more frustrating.

Which is why Joeckel has a shot to go No. 1, should Albert hit free agency and a huge K.C. roster hole suddenly meshes with the available draft talent.

Even if Joeckel slides past the Chiefs, though, he will find no shortage of teams interested in his talent — so much so, in a few cases, that the rest of the top 5 (Jacksonville, Oakland, Philadelphia and Detroit) might be able to swing a draft-day trade contingent on Joeckel’s availability.

But any of that quartet also could make a case for Joeckel early. Both the Jaguars and Raiders had huge issues at right tackle; the Eagles struggled all over their line (save for Evan Mathis), and are still awaiting Jason Peters’ return from an Achilles injury; and the Lions might be shorthanded, even with 2012 first-rounder Riley Reiff in tow, if Jeff Backus retires and Gosder Cherilus leaves in free agency.

All those teams will have to wait to see what the Chiefs do as a 2013 draft opener. Given Joeckel’s potential as an NFL lineman and the lack of elite prospects, a match could be made at No. 1 overall.
Posts: 88,960
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2013, 03:35 PM   #706
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Supporter
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hollywood, CA
Casino cash: $10053648
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNR View Post
Really? You of all people? The guy who says, "Go **** your mother" when somebody posts some shitassed piece of idiotic tripe (like tooge just did) is telling me to tone down the hyperbole?
Maybe I'm getting soft in my old age. But ripping a guy professionally because his football views are different from yours or mine is a bit much, IMO.

And since my return, I've toned down the hyperbole considerably. I've grown tired and weary of calling people names just because they are either not as informed or have a different opinion from mine.

Plus, I've known Tooge since we were 12 or 13 years old. He's good people and far from the village idiot.
Posts: 88,960
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2013, 03:37 PM   #707
Frankie Frankie is offline
Banned
 
Frankie's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2001
Casino cash: $10004900
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saccopoo View Post
So, let's get this right...

You are whining about the "Geno supporters" going overboard defending him, but you state that you haven't checked stats, don't care to, probably haven't watched the games (because if you did, you'd see Geno making big throw after big throw into tight windows in an effort to keep his team in the game while not putting the ball into the defenses hands) and are just going off your minimalistic "perception?"
See now you are speculating. I have attached what I posted in a thread I started on another forum months ago and kept updating it. I think I might have even posted this chart here once, I just don't recall in what thread.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	CollegeQBstats.jpg
Views:	69
Size:	142.7 KB
ID:	103393  
Posts: 26,959
Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2013, 03:38 PM   #708
RealSNR RealSNR is offline
Special Teams ACE!!!
 
RealSNR's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Where the hell is SNR
Casino cash: $2670208
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
Maybe I'm getting soft in my old age. But ripping a guy professionally because his football views are different from yours or mine is a bit much, IMO.

And since my return, I've toned down the hyperbole considerably. I've grown tired and weary of calling people names just because they are either not as informed or have a different opinion from mine.

Plus, I've known Tooge since we were 12 or 13 years old. He's good people and far from the village idiot.
I don't care if he's your grandmother. He posted a pretty ****ing stupid thing.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper16 View Post
I would read an entire blog of SNR breaking down athletes' musical capabilities like draft scouting reports.
Posts: 90,134
RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2013, 03:38 PM   #709
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
'Tis my eye!
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $10269900
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
Maybe I'm getting soft in my old age. But ripping a guy professionally because his football views are different from yours or mine is a bit much, IMO.

And since my return, I've toned down the hyperbole considerably. I've grown tired and weary of calling people names just because they are either not as informed or have a different opinion from mine.

Plus, I've known Tooge since we were 12 or 13 years old. He's good people and far from the village idiot.
He wasn't ripping him professionally.

He was ripping on the comparison between tooge's professional acumen and somebody who runs a football team...
Posts: 100,022
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2013, 03:42 PM   #710
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Supporter
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hollywood, CA
Casino cash: $10053648
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNR View Post
I don't care if he's your grandmother. He posted a pretty ****ing stupid thing.
And therefore he should be insulted for his profession. Got it.

It's good to know that absolutely anything and everything is now acceptable to say in this forum.
Posts: 88,960
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2013, 03:44 PM   #711
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Supporter
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hollywood, CA
Casino cash: $10053648
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe View Post
He wasn't ripping him professionally.

He was ripping on the comparison between tooge's professional acumen and somebody who runs a football team...
Really? Saying that if he was the last dentist in the entire world, he wouldn't visit him?

The hyperbole around here is absolutely insane. I think it's ****ing comical that L.A. Chieffan gets banned because of his "Cassel Trolling", yet a group of people do the same exact thing in regards to Eugene Smith.

Actually, it's not comical. It's the same ****ing thing, only worse, because it's not done for laughs.
Posts: 88,960
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2013, 03:44 PM   #712
RealSNR RealSNR is offline
Special Teams ACE!!!
 
RealSNR's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Where the hell is SNR
Casino cash: $2670208
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
And therefore he should be insulted for his profession. Got it.

It's good to know that absolutely anything and everything is now acceptable to say in this forum.
I didn't say anything about his profession. I think I even said he was a, "Highly trained and educated professional who has performed thousands of delicate procedures and made thousands of hard decisions involving the health and well-being of thousands of people with over a 99% success rate."

That part at the end was me calling him a dumbass. Which is what he was being at the time.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper16 View Post
I would read an entire blog of SNR breaking down athletes' musical capabilities like draft scouting reports.
Posts: 90,134
RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2013, 03:46 PM   #713
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
'Tis my eye!
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $10269900
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
It's good to know that absolutely anything and everything is now acceptable to say in this forum.
This is somewhat ironic. Just sayin.
Posts: 100,022
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2013, 03:48 PM   #714
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
'Tis my eye!
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $10269900
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
Really? Saying that if he was the last dentist in the entire world, he wouldn't visit him?

The hyperbole around here is absolutely insane. I think it's ****ing comical that L.A. Chieffan gets banned because of his "Cassel Trolling", yet a group of people do the same exact thing in regards to Eugene Smith.

Actually, it's not comical. It's the same ****ing thing, only worse, because it's not done for laughs.
Dude, this is Chiefsplanet, 2013 edition.

There's nothing here EXCEPT hyperbole. Everything is an over-the-top parody.

You CANNOT HAVE a rational, logical discussion anymore. It's simply not possible.

It is what it is.

I took a break, just like you.

I came back with the idea of being a kinder, gentler poster. Just like you.

It won't work. You'll eventually realize that about 75% of the people that joined in the past year are all actually the same 2 or 3 people, the place is overrun with idiots and trolls, and it's easier just to fight fire with fire.

Just like me.
Posts: 100,022
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2013, 03:50 PM   #715
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Supporter
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hollywood, CA
Casino cash: $10053648
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe View Post
This is somewhat ironic. Just sayin.
Right.

Because telling someone to "**** their mother" isn't street vernacular? Telling someone to "**** off" isn't something people say every day?

Furthermore, 90% of the times I've used terms like that are when I'm being personally attacked for my opinion, not the other way around.

It's amazing how short the memories are around here.
Posts: 88,960
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2013, 03:51 PM   #716
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Supporter
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hollywood, CA
Casino cash: $10053648
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe View Post
Dude, this is Chiefsplanet, 2013 edition.

There's nothing here EXCEPT hyperbole. Everything is an over-the-top parody.

You CANNOT HAVE a rational, logical discussion anymore. It's simply not possible.

It is what it is.

I took a break, just like you.

I came back with the idea of being a kinder, gentler poster. Just like you.

It won't work. You'll eventually realize that about 75% of the people that joined in the past year are all actually the same 2 or 3 people, the place is overrun with idiots and trolls, and it's easier just to fight fire with fire.

Just like me.
I appreciate this comment and will take it under advisement.
Posts: 88,960
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2013, 03:53 PM   #717
RealSNR RealSNR is offline
Special Teams ACE!!!
 
RealSNR's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Where the hell is SNR
Casino cash: $2670208
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
Really? Saying that if he was the last dentist in the entire world, he wouldn't visit him?
Actually I probably wouldn't if he were the last dentist on earth. So many people would need him more than I would. I have phenomenal oral hygiene.

Dane, just the other day I saw you yell at Detoxing for no apparent reason. You may have toned down the severity of insults you issue around here, but you're still just as guilty of being an asshole as any of us. My hyperbolic way of calling tooge a dumbass is FAR from a terrible thing compared to many things I and nearly everybody on this forum has said in the past.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper16 View Post
I would read an entire blog of SNR breaking down athletes' musical capabilities like draft scouting reports.
Posts: 90,134
RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2013, 03:58 PM   #718
tooge tooge is offline
MVP
 
tooge's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Liberty, MO
Casino cash: $4214112
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNR View Post
Highly trained and educated professional who has performed thousands of delicate procedures and made thousands of hard decisions involving the health and well-being of thousands of people with over a 99% success rate

Equals

Guy who works for a sports franchise, whose job does not require the professional and tense fortitude built upon years of highly focused training, whose decisions don't affect the health and well-being of thousands of people, and whose decisions on player personnel have a success rate at or around 30%

And I thought doctors were supposed to be smart. Remind me never to go to you even if you're the last dentist on earth.
I don't like dense patients, so don't bother calling my office. I prefer my patients own their own problems. If you are unable to understand that the fact that John Dorsey doesn't make decisions that affect the health of people, in no way diminishes his expertise and professionalism, then you are the idiot here. The guy has been in the NFL for over 20 years. I think he knows more about scouting individuals coming out of college and what to look for in a player better than 99% of the untrained people out there.

I'm not a mechanic, but I'm restoring an old jeep. I'd love to have the knowledge of a mechanic while I was doing it, but I'm having to learn as I go. I'd think after twenty such restorations, I'd probably have a pretty good handle on what I'm doing. It has nothing to do with health. Yes, I do thousands of intricate procedures a year, and yes, it takes some important decision making to do it correctly 100 percent of the time. You are clueless. Will someone explain this to SNR?
Posts: 14,885
tooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.tooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.tooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.tooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.tooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.tooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.tooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.tooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.tooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.tooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.tooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2013, 04:01 PM   #719
SAUTO SAUTO is offline
Shit
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Casino cash: $10039067
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe View Post
Dude, this is Chiefsplanet, 2013 edition.

There's nothing here EXCEPT hyperbole. Everything is an over-the-top parody.

You CANNOT HAVE a rational, logical discussion anymore. It's simply not possible.

It is what it is.

I took a break, just like you.

I came back with the idea of being a kinder, gentler poster. Just like you.

It won't work. You'll eventually realize that about 75% of the people that joined in the past year are all actually the same 2 or 3 people, the place is overrun with idiots and trolls, and it's easier just to fight fire with fire.

Just like me.
this
Posts: 55,715
SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2013, 04:03 PM   #720
ChiefRocka ChiefRocka is offline
Veteran
 
ChiefRocka's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: DE
Casino cash: $9785019
Since when did this become ****The Official Jerry Springer Thread*****

The damn season didn't even end yet and the pussification begins.
Posts: 3,804
ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:43 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.