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Old 04-02-2016, 09:09 AM  
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Charles to the Patriots?

http://beantownbeattomdarcy.sportsbl...n-a-trade.html

what is Charles worth?
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Old 04-03-2016, 01:37 PM   #136
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It's doesn't matter if he's "Electric" or not. Forte has been a more dependable player and has better numbers, yet the Bears couldn't find a trade partner.

No one is trading for Charles.
Define better numbers.

I think you are being a bit disingenuous to make your point.
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Old 04-03-2016, 01:40 PM   #137
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Dane's an idiot. That's a scientific fact.
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Old 04-03-2016, 02:00 PM   #138
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Does anyone want to explain this concept to Dane? I can't do it anymore..
He could have torn his acl 5 times with the Pats offense or 0. Different set of circumstances in every single play, so no way to know. His ACL wasn't destined to tear after x amount of plays, so playing in different games, different players, etc means you can't translate his injuries over.
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Old 04-03-2016, 02:07 PM   #139
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He could have torn his acl 5 times with the Pats offense or 0. Different set of circumstances in every single play, so no way to know. His ACL wasn't destined to tear after x amount of plays, so playing in different games, different players, etc means you can't translate his injuries over.


Thank you.
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Old 04-03-2016, 02:18 PM   #140
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Thank you.
I'm not sure why you're thanking him. By the same logic, your claim to the number of yards he'd have had running behind a different OL is equally speculative and useless.
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Old 04-03-2016, 02:25 PM   #141
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I'm not sure why you're thanking him. By the same logic, your claim to the number of yards he'd have had running behind a different OL is equally speculative and useless.
Stupidity just flows from your finger tips.
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Old 04-03-2016, 02:27 PM   #142
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Stupidity just flows from your finger tips.
Different games, different players, could have popped his ACLs, etc...


It's not my fault you're too ****ing stupid to see that those apply in both cases.
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Old 04-03-2016, 02:28 PM   #143
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I'm not sure why you're thanking him. By the same logic, your claim to the number of yards he'd have had running behind a different OL is equally speculative and useless.


You're also an idiot but help me understand what you're talking about. I don't remember saying anything about anyone running behind a different line.
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Old 04-03-2016, 02:29 PM   #144
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I'm not sure why you're thanking him. By the same logic, your claim to the number of yards he'd have had running behind a different OL is equally speculative and useless.


My logic is undeniable, by the way. Just because he tore his ACLs here doesn't mean he'd have done so somewhere else.
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Old 04-03-2016, 02:33 PM   #145
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This is just silly. I'm willing to bet he'd have been abducted by aliens and never seen from or heard from again had he been with a different team.
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Old 04-03-2016, 02:33 PM   #146
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You're also an idiot but help me understand what you're talking about. I don't remember saying anything about anyone running behind a different line.
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You can't say that he would have torn his ACLs had he been with a different organization Come the **** on..
I was referring to this. I'm just saying that using the logic of "different teams, etc..." regarding injury, and applying it logically to everything else, nobody would be able to talk about how great a player would be if he were on another team.

It was a general comment.
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Old 04-03-2016, 02:35 PM   #147
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Different games, different players, could have popped his ACLs, etc...


It's not my fault you're too ****ing stupid to see that those apply in both cases.

No, you stupid ****.

Speculating that someone would suffer the same injuries in different circumstances because of their body is sheer ****ing stupidity.

Speculating how a player with Charles' talent might perform with the support of some actual talent in front of him, while still only speculation, is at least an interesting discussion.

I'm not sorry that you're stupid.
I'm sorry that your mother was too stupid to swallow your dumb ass.
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Old 04-03-2016, 02:36 PM   #148
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It was a general comment.


It was an incredibly worthless comment.
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Old 04-03-2016, 02:39 PM   #149
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Milkman is right. Charles has performed at an elite level under a multitude of different offensive philosophies, blocking schemes, QBs, and about a million combinations of OL. Speculating on how he'd perform somewhere else is actually a pretty safe bet.
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Old 04-03-2016, 08:12 PM   #150
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Ok, so lots of squabbling going on here BUT what's your number? Seriously, what would it take? What amount of draft pick(s), player skill, or the combination of both would convince you to make the trade for Charles?

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