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Old 03-07-2018, 06:12 PM  
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Trump’s meeting with the video game industry to talk gun violence could get ugly

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Trump’s meeting with the video game industry to talk gun violence could get ugly

President Trump is set to pit the video game industry against some of its harshest critics at a White House meeting on Thursday that's designed to explore the link between violent games, guns and tragedies such as last month's shooting in Parkland, Fla.

Following the attack at Marjory Stoneman High School, which left 17 students dead, Trump has said violent games are “shaping young people’s thoughts.” The president has proposed that “we have to do something about maybe what they’re seeing and how they’re seeing it.”

Trump has invited video game executives like Robert Altman, the CEO of ZeniMax, the parent company for games such as Fallout; Strauss Zelnick, the chief executive of Take Two Interactive, which is known for Grand Theft Auto, and Michael Gallagher, the leader of the Entertainment Software Association, a Washington-focused lobbying organization for the industry.



Three people familiar with the White House’s planning, but not authorized to speak on the record, confirmed those invitees. A spokeswoman for the White House declined to share a full list of participants on Wednesday. ESA confirmed its attendance this week, but the others did not respond to questions.

Opposite of them are expected to be some of the video-game industry's toughest critics, including Brent Bozell, the founder of the Parents Television Council, and Rep. Vicky Hartzler, a Republican from Missouri, the three people said. After another shooting — the 2012 massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. — they each called on government to focus its attention on violent media rather than just pursuing new gun restrictions.

Bozell, for example, argued then that video games depicting graphic, gruesome incidents deserve as much attention and scrutiny as organizations such as the National Rifle Association. “Somehow, Democrats isolate the inherent evil of a gun almost as if it's self-shooting, while denying our violent media has any influence on these under-21 shooters,” he wrote at the time.

A representative for Bozell did not respond to an email seeking comment. A spokeswoman for Hartzler said it would be the "first of many with industry leaders to discuss this important issue and the congresswoman looks forward to learning more."

Ultimately, that could spell the beginning of a new conservative crusade to regulate whether and how video games depicting graphic acts are sold, and to whom, at a time when the U.S. government is grappling to find a solution to an uptick in gun deaths across the country. To that end, Trump also has invited GOP Rep. Martha Roby (Ala.) to his Thursday meeting. He had asked Sen. Marco Rubio to attend, but a spokeswoman for the Republican lawmaker said he could not make it because of scheduling conflicts.

"As we continue to work towards creating school safety programs that protect all children, the president will be meeting with video game industry leaders and Members of Congress to discuss violent video-game exposure and the correlation to aggression and desensitization in children," a White House spokeswoman said. "This meeting will be the first of many with industry leaders to discuss this important issue."

Trump’s face-to-face session with the video-game industry — and its chief critics — is the White House’s latest roundtable on gun violence. In response to the Parkland attack, the president has used these sessions to pitch a few ideas for reforms, including a controversial proposal to arm teachers with guns.

Yet Trump is not alone in questioning the link between violent video games and mass shootings. His predecessor, President Barack Obama, posed the same questions after the attack in Sandy Hook. “Congress should fund research into the effects that violent video games have on young minds,” he said at the time.

But Democrats and Republicans split sharply over how to tackle the problem. In the past, Obama and his allies sought major new restrictions on sales of assault rifles, for example, while seeking to empower the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to study the effects of violent video games. Republicans historically have not pursued strong gun control measures, and they have left in place a law that bans the CDC from probing gun violence.

Research tells a complicated story about violent video games. Exploring the issue in 2015, a task force commissioned by the American Psychological Association linked them to “increased aggression in players.” But its report also acknowledged it lacked the evidence to tie such graphic content to criminal violence. The video-game industry, meanwhile, has trumpeted academic research that shows no link between the two.

“Blaming video games for violence in the real world is no more productive than blaming the news media for bringing violent crime into our homes night after night,” argues the ESA, the industry’s trade group, in materials it provides online.

Conservatives — some of whom are skeptical of new restrictions on gun ownership — see it differently.

“Banning guns isn’t the answer to preventing violence any more than banning cars would be the answer to preventing people from being killed in car accidents,” wrote Hartzler, the Missouri Republican, in 2013 after the shooting in Sandy Hook that left 26 dead. “The cause, not the tool, should be the focus.”

“We must have a meaningful conversation about mental health issues and other possible cultural and societal contributors to violent behavior, such as violence in video games,” she added.

Last year, after a gunman killed 59 people outside of Las Vegas hotel, Bozell turned his attention to Hollywood. He argued that some of the most popular movies at the box office included scores of scenes involving guns — even as prominent actors and directors seek greater restrictions on U.S. gun sales.

A fear of regulation has prompted video game makers to change their practices. In 1994, they banded together to institute their own system, the Entertainment Software Ratings Board, or ESRB, which assigns video games a rating based in part on whether they include sexual or violent content. The leader of the ESRB, Patricia Vance, also has been invited to the White House on Thursday, three people familiar with the administration’s plans said.

Even then, though, the promise of greater transparency and oversight didn’t satisfy all policymakers. In California, the state legislature in 2005 adopted a law that banned the sale of violent video games to anyone under age 18. Apoplectic at the prohibition, the video game industry sued the state in response, and in 2011, they emerged victorious after the Supreme Court invalidated the restriction.

Now, in the aftermath of Parkland, conservatives are renewing their calls for stronger regulation — rules that span more than just video games.

“As the White House and other leaders work to confront societal gun violence, we hope that they will demand meaningful change from the entertainment industry, which presents dress rehearsals for gun violence on TV, in the movies, and in violent video games,” said Tim Winter, the president of the Parents Television Council, in a statement Wednesday.
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:19 PM   #46
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Apparently, I'm getting old and have been away from video games for what must have been an eternity because I was left wondering what in the **** I just watched.
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:27 PM   #47
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Trump reportedly opened the meeting by playing the video, asking, “This is violent, isn’t it?” There’s no denying that much of the footage is gruesome, with multiple instances of people’s heads exploding into gibs. One of the last clips is a slow-motion kill shot from Sniper Elite 4 — a hallmark of the franchise — in which a sniper’s bullet breaks open a skull seen in X-ray vision. (This is even the thumbnail for the video.)

Here’s how the White House characterized today’s meeting in a statement it released afterward: “The President acknowledged some studies have indicated there is a correlation between video game violence and real violence. The conversation centered on whether violent video games, including games that graphically simulate killing, desensitize our community to violence.”

It’s clear that the White House was trying to portray video games in the most negative light possible, as it pertains to violence. However, Trump reportedly seemed open-minded in his approach to the discussion. The session was one of multiple meetings about gun violence and school safety that the Trump administration has held following the Feb. 14 mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, in which 17 people were killed.

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Old 03-08-2018, 08:47 PM   #48
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Only idiots blame media for the behavior of their poorly reared children.

Be better parents.

Christ, guns are blameless for violence! IT's VIDEO GAMES!!!

I'm pro 2nd amendment, so don't get this mixed up... but blaming guns at least has SOME rationale. Blaming video games is quite seriously something only a moron would believe. There's no fluid logic in place. We have PG-13 movies with higher death counts than R rated 80's shoot 'em ups, but without any blood or any serious repercussions for it.

So, you know... if you're going to blame media like a dipshit, spread it around.
Dennis Miller had a great quote for this: "If your child can be influenced by anything Gene Simmons says, then you're not doing your job as a ****ing parent."

Not sure why he singled out Gene. God knows there are a shit ton of celebrities far worse than him that kids idolize. But the point is certainly valid.
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No. I am not at all. We have laws in place and.... **** me, your a jackass.
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No. I am not at all. We have laws in place and.... **** me, your a jackass.
So you admit you're an alt-right POS well i'm not surprised.
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we should enforce the age restrictions on games better, raise the minimum ages (no FPS games for people 25 and under) and close the game expo loop holes
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we should enforce the age restrictions on games better, raise the minimum ages (no FPS games for people 25 and under) and close the game expo loop holes
Parents need to be parents.

end of stupid argument.
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