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Old 03-02-2012, 09:41 AM  
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The math isn't there for RG3.
What the Browns have to work with, should they be desperate enough:
  • #4 pick
  • #22 pick
  • #37 pick
  • #68 pick
  • several mid- and low-rounders
  • a full board of top-ten picks in 2013
  • LT Joe Thomas (whom they could trade with Jason Smith or Roger Saffold in return)
  • CB Joe Haden
What the Redskins have to work with, and they will be desperate enough:
  • #6 pick
  • #39 pick
  • #70 pick
  • several mid- and low-rounders
  • a full board of top-ten picks in 2013
  • WR Santana Moss (not worth much...)
What the Chiefs have to work with:
  • #11 pick
  • #44 pick
  • #75 pick
  • several mid- and low-rounders
  • a full board of bottom-ten picks in 2013
  • WR Dwayne Bowe
  • DT Glenn Dorsey
  • OT Branden Albert (Saffold or Smith in return?)
So, needless to say folks, I don't see it.

For any pick we give up, the Redskins can (and will) match and do us one better. Want to give up six picks, our 1st through 3rd rounds in 2012 and 2013? So will the Redskins, and their picks will be better.

The only place we can flank the 'Skins would be on veteran talent. I think we'd all be okay with Dorsey, but he's not going to be a dealmaker. Albert would, but he would be a killshot to our offensive line, and the Browns can just outflank us with Joe Thomas if they're hungry enough.

Which means the only chip we have that no other team has is Dwayne Bowe.

So ask yourself: are you willing to part ways with Dwayne Bowe, not to mention any meaningful picks in the next two drafts, for RG3?

I'm not. And Pioli definitely isn't.

The math isn't there.
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Old 03-02-2012, 09:42 AM   #2
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I'd personally pack Bowe's house to get a QB...

but i agree we have no shot, and aren't trying anyways
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Old 03-02-2012, 09:43 AM   #3
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I'd personally pack Bowe's house to get a QB...

but i agree we have no shot, and aren't trying anyways
Sending a Top 5 WR out the door is like sending a franchise QB out the door.

Bowe is a can't-lose.
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Old 03-02-2012, 09:44 AM   #4
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Sending a Top 5 WR out the door is like sending a franchise QB out the door.
Not even close. Wow.
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Old 03-02-2012, 09:45 AM   #5
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Sending a Top 5 WR out the door is like sending a franchise QB out the door.

Bowe is a can't-lose.
wtf?

that's nonsense....
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Old 03-02-2012, 09:47 AM   #6
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Sending a Top 5 WR out the door is like sending a franchise QB out the door.

Bowe is a can't-lose.
Ya. Sending a WR who is hoping to be targeted 10 times a game is the same as sending someone who touches the ball on every offensive snap. RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.
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Not even close. Wow.
Not even close?

You're overplaying your hand.

If you said the value was still slanted towards the QB, I'd buy it.

But not even close?

Pick any other young Top 5 WR, and young franchise QB.

Calvin Johnson, Matt Ryan.

You can't tell me plenty of teams wouldn't consider the former over the latter.
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Ya. Sending a WR who is hoping to be targeted 10 times a game is the same as sending someone who touches the ball on every offensive snap. RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.
Bowe is targeted 10 times a game, but teams have to account for him every snap of the game.
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Not even close?

You're overplaying your hand.

If you said the value was still slanted towards the QB, I'd buy it.

But not even close?

Pick any other young Top 5 WR, and young franchise QB.

Calvin Johnson, Matt Ryan.

You can't tell me plenty of teams wouldn't consider the former over the latter.
You're moving the goal posts.

"Sending a Top 5 WR out the door is like sending a franchise QB out the door."

"Pick any other young Top 5 WR, and young franchise QB."
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You're moving the goal posts.

"Sending a Top 5 WR out the door is like sending a franchise QB out the door."

"Pick any other young Top 5 WR, and young franchise QB."
That's the choice we'd be having to make, is it not?

A young, Top 5 receiver (Bowe), and a young franchise QB.

That's the choice we're making.

To say it's "not even close"... well, I'd bet you're wrong.
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Browns go after Flynn.

Redskins go after Peyton.

Suddenly, we have something to work with.

Again, throwing the entire sink to get RGIII is not worth it.

Peyton is the answer.
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Bowe is a weapon .. but we need a QB so fricking bad ......
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That's the choice we'd be having to make, is it not?

A young, Top 5 receiver (Bowe), and a young franchise QB.

That's the choice we're making.

To say it's "not even close"... well, I'd bet you're wrong.
Don't you mean a young POTENTIAL franchise quarterback.
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That's the choice we'd be having to make, is it not?

A young, Top 5 receiver (Bowe), and a young franchise QB.

That's the choice we're making.

To say it's "not even close"... well, I'd bet you're wrong.
it's not even close

on any planet in the universe
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