I hate the Royals front office - Page 2

ChiefsCountry · 04-19-2006, 02:52 PM

This is just getting out of hand. Glass grow some nuts can Baird, or keep him and run the team like a real baseball team should be run. This is NOT Wal-Mart where cheap young and old workers cut it. You have to actual talent to make it work.

MVChiefFan · 04-19-2006, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shakesthecat

It's not that simple anymore. The top FA's won't even consider KC, and most of the 2nd level guys like Paul Byrd will take less money to play for a contender.

The ass pounding Baird took in the Dye, Damon, and Beltran trades are the reason KC's present is what it is.

Baird's inability to draft and develop talent is the reason KC's future is so bleak.

He needed to be fired 4 years ago.

You are exactly right! Every team gets thrown a bone every once in a while. The Twins and Indians are examples of teams that at least won some games with the guys they brought up through the minors. I know people always say it's because we trade everyone away, while true, we never have more than a couple of good guys at one time. And never any good pitching. I'm talking a mow 'em down type guy. As many pitchers that we draft in the first few rounds, I mean c'mon. And, In baseball you have a multitude of rounds in a draft, you would think they could get someone right. SCOUTING SUCKS ASS!!!

shakesthecat · 04-19-2006, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully

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I'm not sure the exact amount Glass takes in,(tk13 might know) but it's a pretty big chunk of coin. He's making $$$

I'd like to believe him when he says he's willing to spend even more. But I think his biggest fault has been putting too much faith in Baird. Baird has driven this franchise so far into the ground, it will take years to climb back out.

My hope is Glass finally gets tired of the team being a national embarassment, and fires Baird ASAP.

Hootie · 04-19-2006, 06:24 PM

I don't know if anyone pointed this out, but someone said they don't even know when the Royals last finished about .500...didn't they do so three years ago?

Valiant · 04-19-2006, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully

This is exactly one of the things I was thinking. It's rumor, but you hear it enough times, and... you know... where there's smoke... (Kinda like a Tanner's waitress getting knocked up???)

Also, another rumor is that Glass is taking in, from MLB around $50 million per year. He denies it, of course, but I've heard it enough that I lean toward believing it's true. If that's the case, why is our payroll, at a "raised" level this year, still lower than it was 10 years ago?

The only excuse, since I refuse to believe that Glass is just in this to make money, is this:
Glass has been the leader of the fight against big-market teams. He only got a little compromise last time the CBA was coming up, toward what he wanted. If he uses that compromise to its full ability to build a contender, where will he go toward shifting things more his way the next time negotiations come around? It's a poor plan, since we know he's making more money than he's spending, but it's all I can come up with.

If you want some fuel.. My aunt does payroll there.. They have now made a good profit the last four years in a row now... I believe she said the money we got from the top teams last year was a little bit more then our entire payroll for the year...

KC problem with its franchises is our owners run them like buisnesses, ran to make money, not ran to win championships.. Hell all American sports outside of the Redskins and Paul Allens basketball team seem to be ran this way.. These guys are filthy rich they should want the damn championships for bragging rights like it used to be...

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2006, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BSPimpDude

Some could also argue that the more good players we have and the more we win, the better attendance will be and more money will be brought into the team. In the 80's Kansas City loved the Royals, and attendance was alot better then than it is now due to the fact that we won alot then. No one wants to watch a team that gets their asses kicked night in and night out.

How do you explain the Cubs then? Or the Red Sox (before winning the Series in 2004? Or the Cards before LaRussa got to town? It's so weird to me that so many people in KC don't realize what they have in the Royals. Yes, they're awful. Yes, ownership and the front office are awful. But it's CHEAP entertainment! Where else can you watch some of the best athletes in the world compete, while drinking beer, eating hotdogs and sausages and hanging out with friends? Besides that, the tickets are CHEAP! Now while G.A. isn't as cheap as it was in the 80's and early 90's (like $3-$5), it's still extremely affordable. You won't get that at Dodger Stadium, Pac Bell Park, etc.

The Royals will more than likely not be any good until changes in the front office and even ownership are made. But that doesn't mean that a night at the ballpark, even if the Royals lose, can't be a great time. Enjoy it.

DJJasonp · 04-19-2006, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

How do you explain the Cubs then? Or the Red Sox (before winning the Series in 2004? Or the Cards before LaRussa got to town? It's so weird to me that so many people in KC don't realize what they have in the Royals. Yes, they're awful. Yes, ownership and the front office are awful. But it's CHEAP entertainment! Where else can you watch some of the best athletes in the world compete, while drinking beer, eating hotdogs and sausages and hanging out with friends? Besides that, the tickets are CHEAP! Now while G.A. isn't as cheap as it was in the 80's and early 90's (like $3-$5), it's still extremely affordable. You won't get that at Dodger Stadium, Pac Bell Park, etc.

The Royals will more than likely not be any good until changes in the front office and even ownership are made. But that doesn't mean that a night at the ballpark, even if the Royals lose, can't be a great time. Enjoy it.

You make some good points....but I think...speaking for Royals fans....the frustration doesnt lie in the fact that the team stinks....the frustration is that the team has stunk for over a decade now and hasnt even sniffed the playoffs....and even worse, the ownership doesnt seem to give a damn about winning.

You have to understand....Mr. K would have taken a loss if it meant beating the Yankees.

Deberg_1990 · 04-19-2006, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp

You have to understand....Mr. K would have taken a loss if it meant beating the Yankees.

and therin lies the problem. I just dont get the feeling that Glass is a fan or loves the game. I hate owners like Steinbrenner as much as the next guy, but at least the guy loves his team and wants desperately to win which i respect.

ChiefsCountry · 04-19-2006, 11:15 PM

Difference between Glass and Mr. K, Mr. K was a billionarie, Glass isn't. Also Mr. K thought of the Royals as a gift to the city.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2006, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp

You make some good points....but I think...speaking for Royals fans....the frustration doesnt lie in the fact that the team stinks....the frustration is that the team has stunk for over a decade now and hasnt even sniffed the playoffs....and even worse, the ownership doesnt seem to give a damn about winning.

You have to understand....Mr. K would have taken a loss if it meant beating the Yankees.

Look, you couldn't find a bigger Royals fan anywhere in the country if you tried. I grew up in Blue Springs. For over 6 years, Paul Splitorff lived directly across the street and Fred Patek lived two doors down. I used to play Wiffle Ball with Split's kids, Jamie Quirk, George Brett and on and on. I was in grade school during the glory days of the 70's, attended the World Series in 1980 and then again in 1985. I go to Royals games every year in KC and then again in SoCal.

All that being said, I really don't understand the difference between the Chiefs and Royals in so many people's minds. The Chiefs haven't won anything of significiance since 1971. The Royals haven't won since 1985. But the overall sentiment still seems to favor the Chiefs over the Royals.

The Royals suck. Big deal. It's still a great way to spend a night (or day), win or lose. It's all about the experience, how your son/daughter responded when someone hit a home run. Or how you or your buddy teased the opposing outfielder. There's thousands of reasons to go to a game. The eventual outcome shouldn't be the reason not to go.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2006, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I hate owners like Steinbrenner as much as the next guy, but at least the guy loves his team and wants desperately to win which i respect.

Why do you hate Steinbrenner? Because he'll do whatever it takes to win? Because he's paid over $75 Million a year for luxury tax over the past few years? Steinbrenner's done more for the game of baseball than David Glass will ever do. And I will never forget Chris Chambliss hitting the walk off home run! After all these years, I still can't believe it.

I know a lot of you guys bag on me for the perceived "bragging" or whatever you all think, but I've got a very close friend who has MAJOR insight on MLB and I'd love to share a little but for fear of backlash or namedropping, I'm hesitant to relay any info.

But let's just say that behind closed doors, most of MLB isn't too thrilled with Mr. Glass.

SLAG · 04-19-2006, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Look, you couldn't find a bigger Royals fan anywhere in the country if you tried. I grew up in Blue Springs. For over 6 years, Paul Splitorff lived directly across the street and Fred Patek lived two doors down. I used to play Wiffle Ball with Split's kids, Jamie Quirk, George Brett and on and on. I was in grade school during the glory days of the 70's, attended the World Series in 1980 and then again in 1985. I go to Royals games every year in KC and then again in SoCal.

All that being said, I really don't understand the difference between the Chiefs and Royals in so many people's minds. The Chiefs haven't won anything of significiance since 1971. The Royals haven't won since 1985. But the overall sentiment still seems to favor the Chiefs over the Royals.

The Royals suck. Big deal. It's still a great way to spend a night (or day), win or lose. It's all about the experience, how your son/daughter responded when someone hit a home run. Or how you or your buddy teased the opposing outfielder. There's thousands of reasons to go to a game. The eventual outcome shouldn't be the reason not to go.

Good Post

Deberg_1990 · 04-19-2006, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

All that being said, I really don't understand the difference between the Chiefs and Royals in so many people's minds.

Its simple, the Chiefs, althought they havent won anything of signifigance since 1971, have always been competative since CP's been here.

The Royals have been trash for over 10 years now and havent made the playoffs for over 20. Thats enough to make even the "Diehards" interest wane.....nobody wants to go pay for a trash product.

**007** · 04-19-2006, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Why do you hate Steinbrenner? Because he'll do whatever it takes to win? Because he's paid over $75 Million a year for luxury tax over the past few years? Steinbrenner's done more for the game of baseball than David Glass will ever do. And I will never forget Chris Chambliss hitting the walk off home run! After all these years, I still can't believe it.

I know a lot of you guys bag on me for the perceived "bragging" or whatever you all think, but I've got a very close friend who has MAJOR insight on MLB and I'd love to share a little but for fear of backlash or namedropping, I'm hesitant to relay any info.

But let's just say that behind closed doors, most of MLB isn't too thrilled with Mr. Glass.

Get them to run his ass out of America.

Deberg_1990 · 04-19-2006, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I know a lot of you guys bag on me for the perceived "bragging" or whatever you all think, but I've got a very close friend who has MAJOR insight on MLB and I'd love to share a little but for fear of backlash or namedropping, I'm hesitant to relay any info.

But let's just say that behind closed doors, most of MLB isn't too thrilled with Mr. Glass.

Id love to hear about it sometime Dane. Honestly.....you can PM if you dont feel like posting about it on here.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2006, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Its simple, the Chiefs, althought they havent won anything of signifigance since 1971, have always been competative since CP's been here.

Wow, I find this statement to be "off" on so many levels (no offense). The Chiefs have had ONE winning playoff appearance in 13 years. The three other showings during that time resulted in a one and done. The Royals WON the World Series 20 years ago! How is that different?

The Chiefs have had awful coaching, bad records and problems with personnel. When was the last time you heard about a Royals player having 7 kids with 6 different women? When was the last time a Royals player pulled a gun in Westport? When was the last time a Royals player was even arrested?

Again, I just don't know if the people of Kansas City realize what they have in the Royals. And IMO, it's a damn shame.

04-19-2006, 02:52 PM
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $2348752	I hate the Royals front office This is just getting out of hand. Glass grow some nuts can Baird, or keep him and run the team like a real baseball team should be run. This is NOT Wal-Mart where cheap young and old workers cut it. You have to actual talent to make it work.
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04-19-2006, 06:24 PM	#18
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I don't know if anyone pointed this out, but someone said they don't even know when the Royals last finished about .500...didn't they do so three years ago?
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04-19-2006, 11:15 PM	#23
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $2348752	Difference between Glass and Mr. K, Mr. K was a billionarie, Glass isn't. Also Mr. K thought of the Royals as a gift to the city.
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