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Old 05-23-2005, 11:28 AM  
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I was reading that people who have cancer always have a very acidic system and that if you have an Alkaline diet it was impossible to get cancer. I went to see doctor who is a shoulder specialist and has been helping me get past this last issue I had and brought it up to him because I know he is a fanatic when it comes to his diet. Turns out he is totally sold on the same thing. He told me if your body is alkaline it's impossible to get sick. He says he can't remember the last he has had so much as a cold but it was over 10 years. I'm thinking this guys a little wacked and just wrote it off. I went to the chiropractor this weekend and was their last patient so we were just hanging out talking about stuff when I brought up this subject. Both have them had been keeping their body Akaline for the last few years and neither has ever been sick again and they both believe they probably never will be. Amazed by this I was telling a co-worker about the story and he said that he went out with a chick last month who was trying to get him to do the same thing and gave him some limus paper to test himself. He said she told him she never gets sick. I have been pretty astounded by all of this so I thought I would throw it up for discussion. Any BB members doing this?
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:32 AM   #2
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I have not heard of this; as a cancer survivor myself though, I am curious if you have heard how this might relate to fighting recurrence?
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:35 AM   #3
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:37 AM   #4
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:40 AM   #5
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I can't possibly do this if it means giving up spicy foods.

On a more serious note, how does one go about having an alkaline diet? What types of foods are favored and/or banned?
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:46 AM   #6
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I never get sick but I don't intentionally keep my system alkaline. Where do you get litmus paper and how do you use it.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:47 AM   #7
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Alkaline Foods -- 75% of diet
Vegetables -- Sea vegetables, burdock, lentils, onion, daikon, taro, sweet potato, kohlrabi, parsnip, garlic, kale, endive, mustard greens, ginger root, broccoli, potato, bell pepper, mushrooms, cauliflower, eggplant, pumpkin, collard greens, brussels sprouts, chives, cilantro, okra, squash, lettuce

Fruit -- Limes, nectarines, persimmons, raspberries, watermelon, tangerines, grapefruit, cantaloupe, honeydew, citrus, olives, loganberries, mango, lemons, pears, avocado, pineapple, apples, blackberries, cherries, peaches, papaya, oranges, apricots, bananas, blueberries, currants, raisins, grapes, strawberries

Nuts, seeds, oils -- Pumpkin seeds, poppy seeds, chestnuts, pepper, primrose oil, sesame seeds, almonds, sprouts, avocado oil, flaxseed oil, coconut oil, olive oil, other seeds

Grains -- Oats, grain coffee, quinoa, wild rice

Condiments -- Baking soda, sea salt, mineral water, umeboshi plums, spices, cinnamon, molasses, soy sauce, herbs, green tea, rice syrup, apple cider vinegar, ginger tea, umeboshi vinegar, ghee

Dairy -- Buttermilk, cheeses and yoghurt.


Acidifying Foods -- 25% of diet
Dairy -- Processed cheese, ice cream, soymilk, cow's milk, aged cheese, soy cheese, cream

Animal meat -- All meat, poultry, eggs, and seafood. Beef, pheasant, pork, veal, squid, lobster, chicken, lamb, boar, shellfish, goose, turkey, eggs, gelatin, organs, venison, duck

Grains -- All foods made from cereal grains including breads, breakfast cereals, crackers, pasta and rice. Barley, barley groats, corn, rye, oat bran, buckwheat, wheat, kamut, spelt, teff, semolina, white rice, millet, kasha, amaranth, brown rice. Avoid all refined flour products such as white bread, pasta, cakes, pies, cookies.

Legumes -- Legumes including beans, peas, lentils and peanuts.

Nuts, seeds -- All nuts. Hazelnuts, walnuts, Brazil nuts, pistachio seeds, pecans, palm kernel oil, almond oil, sesame oil, safflower oil, pumpkinseed oil, grapeseed oil, sunflower oil, pine nuts, canola oil

Vegetables -- Soy beans, carob, green peas, peanuts, snow peas, carrots, chickpeas, tofu, pinto beans, white or red beans, azuki beans, lima beans, kidney beans, string beans, rhubarb

Fruit -- Fruits containing benzoic or oxalic acid including prunes, plums, cranberries, rhubarb and sour cherries.

Condiments -- Jam, jelly, table salt, yeast, sugar, chocolate, cocoa, white vinegar, nutmeg, coffee, saccharin, vanilla, black tea, alcohol, balsamic vinegar, curry, honey, maple syrup, rice vinegar. Also avoid chocolate milk, sodas, wine, alcohol.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:47 AM   #8
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It looks like I'm pretty much on it already. This is more or less the way my wife and I eat.

http://altmedicine.about.com/od/popu...kalinediet.htm
The Alkaline Diet
From Cathy Wong, N.D.,
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Essentially, the alkaline diet is opposite the high protein, high fat, low carb diets that are currently in vogue. Most people have never heard of alkaline-acid balance, but many holistic doctors and nutritionists consider a properly balanced diet to be important to optimal health and preventing diseases such as cancer.

The theory behind an alkaline diet is that because our body's pH level is slightly alkaline, with a normal range of 7.36 to 7.44, our diet should reflect this and also be slightly alkaline. An imbalanced diet high in acidic foods such as animal protein, sugar, caffeine, and processed foods tends to disrupt this balance. It can deplete the body of alkaline minerals such as sodium, potassium, magnesium, and calcium, making people prone to chronic and degenerative disease.


Who is this diet for?
This diet is for people who feel unwell on a high fat, low carb diet. It is also for people lead stressful lives and who consume large amounts of acidifying foods such as protein, sugar, processed food, cereals, starches, and caffeine, with little alkalinizing vegetables.

What are the symptoms of excess acidity?
Low energy, chronic fatigue

Excess mucous production

Nasal congestion

Frequent colds, flus, and infections

Nervous, stressed, irritable, anxious, agitated

Weak nails, dry hair, dry skin

Formation of cysts, such as ovarian cysts, polycystic ovaries, benign breast cysts (fibrocystic breasts)

Headaches

Joint pain or arthritis

Neuritis

Muscle pain

Feel better after a detox diet

Hives

Leg cramps and spasms

Gastritis, acid indigestion
Medical doctors try to test the acidity or alkalinity of the body tissues and cells by analyzing the blood. Pioneers Carey Reams, Harold Hawkins, or Emanuel Revici developed methods to measure urine pH and other factors such as saliva pH. Modern proponents of the alkaline diet look at the pH of blood, saliva, and urine, in addition to health symptoms and other factors.

What are the guidelines of this diet?
An alkaline diet is composed of approximately 75% alkaline foods and 25% acid foods. The foods listed below are in descending order of alkalinity and acidity.

Alkaline Foods -- 75% of diet
Vegetables -- Sea vegetables, burdock, lentils, onion, daikon, taro, sweet potato, kohlrabi, parsnip, garlic, kale, endive, mustard greens, ginger root, broccoli, potato, bell pepper, mushrooms, cauliflower, eggplant, pumpkin, collard greens, brussels sprouts, chives, cilantro, okra, squash, lettuce

Fruit -- Limes, nectarines, persimmons, raspberries, watermelon, tangerines, grapefruit, cantaloupe, honeydew, citrus, olives, loganberries, mango, lemons, pears, avocado, pineapple, apples, blackberries, cherries, peaches, papaya, oranges, apricots, bananas, blueberries, currants, raisins, grapes, strawberries

Nuts, seeds, oils -- Pumpkin seeds, poppy seeds, chestnuts, pepper, primrose oil, sesame seeds, almonds, sprouts, avocado oil, flaxseed oil, coconut oil, olive oil, other seeds

Grains -- Oats, grain coffee, quinoa, wild rice

Condiments -- Baking soda, sea salt, mineral water, umeboshi plums, spices, cinnamon, molasses, soy sauce, herbs, green tea, rice syrup, apple cider vinegar, ginger tea, umeboshi vinegar, ghee

Dairy -- Buttermilk, cheeses and yoghurt.


Acidifying Foods -- 25% of diet
Dairy -- Processed cheese, ice cream, soymilk, cow's milk, aged cheese, soy cheese, cream

Animal meat -- All meat, poultry, eggs, and seafood. Beef, pheasant, pork, veal, squid, lobster, chicken, lamb, boar, shellfish, goose, turkey, eggs, gelatin, organs, venison, duck

Grains -- All foods made from cereal grains including breads, breakfast cereals, crackers, pasta and rice. Barley, barley groats, corn, rye, oat bran, buckwheat, wheat, kamut, spelt, teff, semolina, white rice, millet, kasha, amaranth, brown rice. Avoid all refined flour products such as white bread, pasta, cakes, pies, cookies.

Legumes -- Legumes including beans, peas, lentils and peanuts.

Nuts, seeds -- All nuts. Hazelnuts, walnuts, Brazil nuts, pistachio seeds, pecans, palm kernel oil, almond oil, sesame oil, safflower oil, pumpkinseed oil, grapeseed oil, sunflower oil, pine nuts, canola oil

Vegetables -- Soy beans, carob, green peas, peanuts, snow peas, carrots, chickpeas, tofu, pinto beans, white or red beans, azuki beans, lima beans, kidney beans, string beans, rhubarb

Fruit -- Fruits containing benzoic or oxalic acid including prunes, plums, cranberries, rhubarb and sour cherries.

Condiments -- Jam, jelly, table salt, yeast, sugar, chocolate, cocoa, white vinegar, nutmeg, coffee, saccharin, vanilla, black tea, alcohol, balsamic vinegar, curry, honey, maple syrup, rice vinegar. Also avoid chocolate milk, sodas, wine, alcohol.

Tips on alkalinizing your diet
Eat lots of vegetables and fruit

Squeeze lemon or lime into water as a beverage

Try to eat 1 cup of alkalinizing greens daily, such as kale, mustard greens, or broccoli

Eat millet or quinoa as an alternative to wheat

Choose fish and lamb over beef

Use olive oil instead of vegetable oils

Try a greens powder

Learn to make a miso broth. Dissolve one teaspoon of miso into a cup of hot, not boiling, water.
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I stopped right there. If that is all I can eat in regard to meat, then I will stay sick and die early...

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Old 05-23-2005, 12:03 PM   #10
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It looks like I'm pretty much on it already. This is more or less the way my wife and I eat.

http://altmedicine.about.com/od/popu...kalinediet.htm
The Alkaline Diet
From Cathy Wong, N.D.,
Your Guide to Alternative Medicine.
FREE Newsletter. Sign Up Now!
Essentially, the alkaline diet is opposite the high protein, high fat, low carb diets that are currently in vogue. Most people have never heard of alkaline-acid balance, but many holistic doctors and nutritionists consider a properly balanced diet to be important to optimal health and preventing diseases such as cancer.

The theory behind an alkaline diet is that because our body's pH level is slightly alkaline, with a normal range of 7.36 to 7.44, our diet should reflect this and also be slightly alkaline. An imbalanced diet high in acidic foods such as animal protein, sugar, caffeine, and processed foods tends to disrupt this balance. It can deplete the body of alkaline minerals such as sodium, potassium, magnesium, and calcium, making people prone to chronic and degenerative disease.


Who is this diet for?
This diet is for people who feel unwell on a high fat, low carb diet. It is also for people lead stressful lives and who consume large amounts of acidifying foods such as protein, sugar, processed food, cereals, starches, and caffeine, with little alkalinizing vegetables.

What are the symptoms of excess acidity?
Low energy, chronic fatigue

Excess mucous production

Nasal congestion

Frequent colds, flus, and infections

Nervous, stressed, irritable, anxious, agitated

Weak nails, dry hair, dry skin

Formation of cysts, such as ovarian cysts, polycystic ovaries, benign breast cysts (fibrocystic breasts)

Headaches

Joint pain or arthritis

Neuritis

Muscle pain

Feel better after a detox diet

Hives

Leg cramps and spasms

Gastritis, acid indigestion
Medical doctors try to test the acidity or alkalinity of the body tissues and cells by analyzing the blood. Pioneers Carey Reams, Harold Hawkins, or Emanuel Revici developed methods to measure urine pH and other factors such as saliva pH. Modern proponents of the alkaline diet look at the pH of blood, saliva, and urine, in addition to health symptoms and other factors.

What are the guidelines of this diet?
An alkaline diet is composed of approximately 75% alkaline foods and 25% acid foods. The foods listed below are in descending order of alkalinity and acidity.

Alkaline Foods -- 75% of diet
Vegetables -- Sea vegetables, burdock, lentils, onion, daikon, taro, sweet potato, kohlrabi, parsnip, garlic, kale, endive, mustard greens, ginger root, broccoli, potato, bell pepper, mushrooms, cauliflower, eggplant, pumpkin, collard greens, brussels sprouts, chives, cilantro, okra, squash, lettuce

Fruit -- Limes, nectarines, persimmons, raspberries, watermelon, tangerines, grapefruit, cantaloupe, honeydew, citrus, olives, loganberries, mango, lemons, pears, avocado, pineapple, apples, blackberries, cherries, peaches, papaya, oranges, apricots, bananas, blueberries, currants, raisins, grapes, strawberries

Nuts, seeds, oils -- Pumpkin seeds, poppy seeds, chestnuts, pepper, primrose oil, sesame seeds, almonds, sprouts, avocado oil, flaxseed oil, coconut oil, olive oil, other seeds

Grains -- Oats, grain coffee, quinoa, wild rice

Condiments -- Baking soda, sea salt, mineral water, umeboshi plums, spices, cinnamon, molasses, soy sauce, herbs, green tea, rice syrup, apple cider vinegar, ginger tea, umeboshi vinegar, ghee

Dairy -- Buttermilk, cheeses and yoghurt.


Acidifying Foods -- 25% of diet
Dairy -- Processed cheese, ice cream, soymilk, cow's milk, aged cheese, soy cheese, cream

Animal meat -- All meat, poultry, eggs, and seafood. Beef, pheasant, pork, veal, squid, lobster, chicken, lamb, boar, shellfish, goose, turkey, eggs, gelatin, organs, venison, duck

Grains -- All foods made from cereal grains including breads, breakfast cereals, crackers, pasta and rice. Barley, barley groats, corn, rye, oat bran, buckwheat, wheat, kamut, spelt, teff, semolina, white rice, millet, kasha, amaranth, brown rice. Avoid all refined flour products such as white bread, pasta, cakes, pies, cookies.

Legumes -- Legumes including beans, peas, lentils and peanuts.

Nuts, seeds -- All nuts. Hazelnuts, walnuts, Brazil nuts, pistachio seeds, pecans, palm kernel oil, almond oil, sesame oil, safflower oil, pumpkinseed oil, grapeseed oil, sunflower oil, pine nuts, canola oil

Vegetables -- Soy beans, carob, green peas, peanuts, snow peas, carrots, chickpeas, tofu, pinto beans, white or red beans, azuki beans, lima beans, kidney beans, string beans, rhubarb

Fruit -- Fruits containing benzoic or oxalic acid including prunes, plums, cranberries, rhubarb and sour cherries.

Condiments -- Jam, jelly, table salt, yeast, sugar, chocolate, cocoa, white vinegar, nutmeg, coffee, saccharin, vanilla, black tea, alcohol, balsamic vinegar, curry, honey, maple syrup, rice vinegar. Also avoid chocolate milk, sodas, wine, alcohol.

Tips on alkalinizing your diet
Eat lots of vegetables and fruit

Squeeze lemon or lime into water as a beverage

Try to eat 1 cup of alkalinizing greens daily, such as kale, mustard greens, or broccoli

Eat millet or quinoa as an alternative to wheat

Choose fish and lamb over beef

Use olive oil instead of vegetable oils

Try a greens powder

Learn to make a miso broth. Dissolve one teaspoon of miso into a cup of hot, not boiling, water.
I have been moving this direction slowly. Whey protein is a great way to get what you need and is alkaline as well. What I really need to do is cut my alchohol intake and drink coffee very rarely or not at all. I also cheat by puting lemons in my drinking water.
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Old 05-23-2005, 12:04 PM   #11
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I meant to ask, you ever get sick? The last time I was sick was 3 years ago, I cought a cold.
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I meant to ask, you ever get sick? The last time I was sick was 3 years ago, I cought a cold.
Very very rarely. I haven't missed work from an illness in probably 8 years. I work in education, too, which is known as a germ factory.

When the flu bugs start working through the schools and 50% of the school/staff are out sick, I might get a slight sore throat or something. I never get sick enough to stay in bed, though (knock on wood).
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Old 05-23-2005, 12:19 PM   #13
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Very very rarely. I haven't missed work from an illness in probably 8 years. I work in education, too, which is known as a germ factory.

When the flu bugs start working through the schools and 50% of the school/staff are out sick, I might get a slight sore throat or something. I never get sick enough to stay in bed, though (knock on wood).

As it is now I almost never get sick. I'm thinking I'll be a freaking fortress if I get this down. Beats the hell out of sticking a bunch of shit in your system every flipping year with one of those nasty vaccines.
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I stopped right there. If that is all I can eat in regard to meat, then I will stay sick and die early...

I must draw the line somewhere.........
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Wonder how this works with people overweight ? Basically, will it affect one who is try'n to lose the pounds ?

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