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Old 11-12-2013, 04:53 PM  
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You should be able to keep yout health care plan.

Clinton is right. Obama needs to man up and work with the Republicans in the house and senate.

Produce a bill that exempts current health care plans from following Obamacare guidelines.

Thats what was sold to the public...........you like your health care plan, you can keep it.

It's the right thing to do.


Now, employer provided insurance should never have happened, but it did. Employee provided insurance's days are numbered. It's going to die soon. Thats a totally separate issue from Obamacare.

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Old 11-16-2013, 04:25 PM   #241
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Obama said we can keep our plans now and so now it is fixed everyone, no worries.
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Old 11-16-2013, 05:15 PM   #242
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BRC, I'm sorry. I don't mean to keep posting these but Bush's actions have caused it. If he hadn't been so unpopular Obama wouldn't have gotten elected and we wouldn't even have this thread.
So, as you can see - Bush.
I do remember everyone cutting Matt Cassel a break last year. After all, he inherited the job from Tyler Thigpen.
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Old 11-16-2013, 05:45 PM   #243
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Obama said we can keep our plans now and so now it is fixed everyone, no worries.
We were sold (aka forced down our throats) a product under false pretenses. In the private sector this is called 'fraud' and can be countered by a lawsuit. But this is the government, they're beyond reproach, immune to the rules of the people they represent.

Try running an LLC and tell me what a nightmare this has been when you have to count on your income to pay the bills and keep to your house because you don't have impunity and millions of dollars of others peoples money to flip off your detractors.

The damage has already been done and all we get is a "whoops". I just want the government out of my life as much as possible. Just go the **** away!

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Old 11-16-2013, 06:01 PM   #244
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We were sold (aka forced down our throats) a product under false pretenses. In the private sector this is called 'fraud' and can be countered by a lawsuit. But this is the government, they're beyond reproach, immune to the rules of the people they represent.

Try running an LLC and tell me what a nightmare this has been when you have to count on your income to pay the bills and keep to your house because you don't have impunity and millions of dollars of others peoples money to flip off your detractors.

The damage has already been done and all we get is a "whoops". I just want the government out of my life as much as possible. Just go the **** away!

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Old 11-16-2013, 10:59 PM   #245
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Whats hilarious is that Ronald Reagan never once mentioned Jimmy Carter during his 8 year term. he just fixed Carters ****ed up shit without whining and crying about it.
Except for all the times he did
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Old 11-16-2013, 11:36 PM   #246
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Except for all the times he did
You're always asking people to post links when they make outrageous claims.

Post a link or shut the **** up.
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Old 11-16-2013, 11:48 PM   #247
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You're always asking people to post links when they make outrageous claims.

Post a link or shut the **** up.

1982 State of the Union

"To understand the State of the Union, we must look not only at where we are and where we're going but where we've been. The situation at this time last year was truly ominous."

"In the last six months of 1980, as an example, the money supply increased at the fastest rate in postwar history 13 percent. Inflation remained in double digits and Government spending increased at an annual rate of 17 percent. Interest rates reached a staggering 21 1/2 percent. There were eight million unemployed."

"First, we must understand what's happening at the moment to the economy. Our current problems are not the product of the recovery program that's only just now getting under way, as some would have you believe; they are the inheritance of decades of tax and tax, and spend"



1983 State of the Union:

"The problems we inherited were far worse than most inside and out of government had expected; the recession was deeper than most inside and out of government had predicted. Curing those problems has taken more time and a higher toll than any of us wanted."
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Old 11-16-2013, 11:49 PM   #248
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You're always asking people to post links when they make outrageous claims.

Post a link or shut the **** up.
Google is your friend. First ****ing result. From Reagan's speech to CPAC in 1982.

Reagan was constantly blaming Jimmy Carter for the negative shit going on in the country. Every President does it even youe saint Reagan. Sorry to burst your bubble.

1. The last Democratic administration had increased real defense spending at a rate of 3.3 percent a year. You know how much inflation was, so they were actually losing ground. By 1980 we had fighter planes that couldn't fly, Navy ships that couldn't leave port, a Rapid Deployment Force that was neither rapid nor deployable and not much of a force.


2. We must approach the upcoming elections with a forthright and direct message for the American people. We must remind them of the economic catastrophe that we faced on January 20th, 1981: millions out of work, inflation in double digits for two years in a row, interest rates hovering at 21 1/2 percent, productivity and the rate of growth in the gross national product down for the third year in a row, the money supply increasing by 12 percent—and all this due to one overriding cause: Government was too big and had spent too much money.

3. Now, where do some of these attacks originate? They're coming from the very people whose past policies, all done in the name of compassion, brought us the current recession. Their policies drove up inflation and interest rates, and their policies stifled incentive, creativity, and halted the movement of the poor up the economic ladder. Some of their criticism is perfectly sincere. But let's also understand that some of their criticism comes from those who have a vested interest in a permanent welfare constituency and in government programs that reinforce the dependency of our people.
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:33 AM   #249
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1982 State of the Union

"To understand the State of the Union, we must look not only at where we are and where we're going but where we've been. The situation at this time last year was truly ominous."

"In the last six months of 1980, as an example, the money supply increased at the fastest rate in postwar history 13 percent. Inflation remained in double digits and Government spending increased at an annual rate of 17 percent. Interest rates reached a staggering 21 1/2 percent. There were eight million unemployed."

"First, we must understand what's happening at the moment to the economy. Our current problems are not the product of the recovery program that's only just now getting under way, as some would have you believe; they are the inheritance of decades of tax and tax, and spend"



1983 State of the Union:

"The problems we inherited were far worse than most inside and out of government had expected; the recession was deeper than most inside and out of government had predicted. Curing those problems has taken more time and a higher toll than any of us wanted."
That's from a state of the union address in the early 80's. Please find me one from 1984 on. Please!

Are you really comparing this to what's been going on the last 5 years? Really?

You and big dumb chief probably voted for Walter Mondale in 84, And George McGovern in 72. No doubt in my mind
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You know what the operative part of the whole thing is?

Reagan actually fixed some of the problems his predecessor caused.
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:41 AM   #251
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You know what the operative part of the whole thing is?

Reagan actually fixed some of the problems his predecessor caused.
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Old 11-17-2013, 09:31 AM   #253
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Ronald Reagan 1980
Ronald Reagan 1984
George H. Bush 1988

The intolerant social wars drove me away. The hypocriacy. They were no different than the Dems.

I voted for the Republican mayor and state senator in the last election. So there is still some Republican ideas and approaches that I still think are good.
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Old 11-17-2013, 02:23 PM   #254
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That's from a state of the union address in the early 80's. Please find me one from 1984 on. Please!

Are you really comparing this to what's been going on the last 5 years? Really?

You and big dumb chief probably voted for Walter Mondale in 84, And George McGovern in 72. No doubt in my mind

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