Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck. (part 2)

[Hammock Parties]

Old thread is archived here.

[GOB]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

He makes a lot of solid points, but people would rather stick their fingers in their ears and yell "LALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"

He is afraid of QB's that can get the ball out quickly while throwing it deep and often. Like that QB that can throw 30 yards on a 3 step drop right?

Oh, I forgot his super great insight about picking on the rookie? Game changer. This guy should coach.

And then connecting our current situation to the 2010 Chiefs?

I do believe people were oversold on our D but I don't think we're that bad when healthy. Against the first Denver game, when everyone was healthy, we heald them to 27 points, their lowest scoring game of the season.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Why does the person who wrote article feel the need to capitalize "Bye"?

[BossChief]

It's gonna be interesting to see how it all plays out. That's for sure.

I'm pulling for Alex to continue stepping up and for the defense to return to form.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by BossChief

WTF?

C'mon, man.

Oh get outta here with the outrage all of you, i've read the author in question many times and any time you bring your dog into it you're definitely jumping the shark... L.O.L. you're acting like i said something nasty and personal.

To take the, imo, best writer from BR's negative article laced with his dog references and bold it like he's a guru... it strikes me as hilarious, get off the high horse as if i cursed OTWP.

The fact of the matter is that the thought of Stevie Rays imagining of Joe Delaney bounding off the wall like some angry Fathead come to life and wrecking OTWP's man cave is hilarious to me... man almighty, some of you guys will look for anything to say "see! YOU'RE the terrible person here!"

HA. HA. HA... have another beer.

[GOB]

Originally Posted by scott free

Oh get outta here with the outrage all of you, i've read the author in question many times and any time you bring your dog into it you're definitely jumping the shark... L.O.L. you're acting like i said something nasty and personal.

To take the, imo, best writer from BR's negative article laced with his dog references and bold it like he's a guru... it strikes me as hilarious, get off the high horse as if i cursed OTWP.

The fact of the matter is that the thought of Stevie Rays imagining of Joe Delaney bounding off the wall like some angry Fathead come to life and wrecking OTWP's man cave is hilarious to me... man almighty, some of you guys will look for anything to say "see! YOU'RE the terrible person here!"

HA. HA. HA... have another beer.

Have you ever read those articles on Grantland where they try to write the worst sports article possible?

I never knew who they were making fun of. Now I know.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Luck, Rivers and likely Luck again or Brady.

All QB's who can make those throws consistently.

We're not talking about Campbell, Tuel and McGloin here.

Dang. Did you just throw Campbell in with those guys lol. Harsh bro. Haha

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by scott free

So the dude from arrowhead pride or bleacher report or whoever and his trusty dog Zelda are using the old "they didn't beat anyone good" argument once again? ... i'm sorry dude, but once i saw that i couldn't read another word.

I have to agree. I'm sorry, but what "defining win" do you really want? Oh, we HAVE to beat so-and-so team to be considered a threat in the playoffs. This is the NFL, right? Any team can beat any other team on any given day?

We beat the Redskins. "Oh well they're a dumpster fire, no real team would lose to them"

The Chargers lost to the Redskins. "Well the Chargers obviously suck and will barely make the playoffs if anything."

The Chargers beat the Chiefs and the Broncos IN THEIR OWN HOMES. "Well then I guess we... suck?"

Wins are wins, no matter what team you play.

And every game is a learning process. Does losing a game seriously mean we're ****ed and there's no hope at all? No, you learn from your mistakes, you adapt, you go out there and play your best again. Are we so accustomed to losing being the equivalent of "we're exposed and there's no way of recovering"? This team is different and they aren't going to roll on their sides and die.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

I have to agree. I'm sorry, but what "defining win" do you really want? Oh, we HAVE to beat so-and-so team to be considered a threat in the playoffs. This is the NFL, right? Any team can beat any other team on any given day?

We beat the Redskins. "Oh well they're a dumpster fire, no real team would lose to them"

The Chargers lost to the Redskins. "Well the Chargers obviously suck and will barely make the playoffs if anything."

The Chargers beat the Chiefs and the Broncos IN THEIR OWN HOMES. "Well then I guess we... suck?"

Wins are wins, no matter what team you play.

And every game is a learning process. Does losing a game seriously mean we're ****ed and there's no hope at all? No, you learn from your mistakes, you adapt, you go out there and play your best again. Are we so accustomed to losing being the equivalent of "we're exposed and there's no way of recovering"? This team is different and they aren't going to roll on their sides and die.

Logical. Well done

[Coach]

Here's how I see it...

2013 - 11-3 record.
QB play - 292 completions/480 attempts/3,160 yards/60.8%/23 TD's/6 INT's

2012 - 2-14 record.
QB play - QB #1 - 161 completions/277 attempts/1,796 yards/58.1%/6 TD's/12 INT's.
QB play - QB #2 - 112 completions/197 attempts/1,141 yards/56.9%/2 TD's/8 INT's.

2011 - 7-9 record.
QB play - QB #1 - 160 completions/269 attempts/1,713 yards/59.5%/10 TD's/9 INT's.
QB play - QB #2 - 80 completions/134 attempts/796 yards/59.7%/2 TD's/7 INT's.
QB play - QB #3 - 59 completions/97 attempts/779 yards/60.8%/1 TD/2 INT's.

I don't know about you, but I'd say QB play this year exceeded the last two years combined.

[Easy 6]

I definitely don't want to be known as the guy who's needlessly nasty about everything, i hope OTWP was able to see the humorous angle i was taking and not make it more than it was.

[GOB]

Or better yet:
2013 - 11-3 record.
QB play - 292 completions/480 attempts/3,160 yards/60.8%/23 TD's/6 INT's

2012 - 2-14 record.
QB play - 273 completions/473 attempts/2,937 yards/57.9%/8 TD's/20 INT's.


Yards, % comp are pretty similar. The biggest difference is basically picks. Not turning the ball over is valuable.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Here's the thing - there's exaggeration on BOTH sides.

The issue is this:

One side is comprised of people that root for a TEAM. Some of them have been fans for TWENTY YEARS and have never seen said team win a SINGLE playoff game. Some of them have been fans for 40 years and have seen just ONE conference championship appearance. ONE.

The other side is comprised of people that came here for the SOLE PURPOSE of telling us how lucky we are for having Alex Smith. They proceed to tell everybody here how to treat said Alex Smith and how we have to think of him exactly the way they do or we're not good fans.

The reality is that the VAST MAJORITY of people here don't hate Alex Smith. In fact, even the majority of people that hated the trade like him now. You know why? Because he's gotten A LOT better. A LOT.

And yet, here are the Smith fans, continuing to harp on us being bad fans because we aren't willing to put a crown on him.

Only one side is out of line here.

I feel constrained to say, that that is a vastly skewed sense of the 'sides' at issue.

I too root for the team, only I am infinitely more patient and confident regarding Alex's role in the team.

To my view, there is a lot larger contingent than you suggest that have been consistently and incessantly miserable that this team has not been an arena ball gun-slinging choco-penis swinging circus regardless of how well the team overall fared. Control the lines, do your job TO A MAN, and be clutch when clutch is what is required is what I expect, and this team has excelled in these aims for much of the season. When the offense was in disarrary there were numerous reasons, but they never cost us the W. When the defense was in disarray is bit us hard and decisively, costing us the W thrice consecutively. The offense have improved week by week, the defense has righted itself of recent, and the future remains unwritten.

Through it all, I have never gotten the sense that some have cemented from the instant he was signed, . . . that Alex Smith will prove our inescapable doom. To the contrary, I remain optimistic, that is specifically presently unproven but worthy of hopeful expectation, that he will prove himself as solid as we've ever the right to expect.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

I remember when Dick and Willie Roaf left I got really concerned, even as an 11-year old kid, I knew something was wrong. Never thought it would turn out like this. I think around 2011 or so I just stopped giving a shit, I was totally absent during 2012. The murder-suicide really jolted me though, and I realized that people were actually flying jets over Arrowhead and the blackout game against Cincy. I probably know like 90% less than all of you guys do, but post-2003 to 2012 hurt like hell.

The first post I posted here the moment after Roaf retired was probably the most morose post I ever posted here.

I was pissed about Cassel for a hot minute after we signed him to 60 ****ING MILLION DOLLARS, by mid-season it was just clown shoes and embarrassed grins. Might as well have been watching Curly spin around on his side going Nyuck Nyuck Nyuck with calliope music playing in the background.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Here's the whole piece:

and even sometimes the ever-ironic “your and idiot.”

Just like the 2010 Titans, the 2013 Redskins and Raiders are finished and their playing like it.

Irony, defined.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BossChief

This team has very little in common with that 2010 team.

This team and that team are/were both fueled by Charles.

There are more similarities than anyone cares to admit, including a lot of wins against weak teams and bad QBs.